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legendary
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Antifragile
June 05, 2013, 11:35:25 AM
#70
Molecular - I came across your post via a series of coincidences, too complicated to share here.  Wink
But, we share a vision, a passion and perhaps some inspiration.

I think we all understand this may not be smooth sailing, but that is a large part of the specialness of what BTC is bringing to the show.

They are trying to regulate us and I'm not completely against some as long as it doesn't become a stranglehold. We are in a position of power and we shouldn't forget that. They should meet us in the middle.
If you notice the news pumping out stories of Liberty Reserve being shut down and perhaps Bitcoin being next, all the while ignoring that we are decentralized, you know we are on their minds. They are
trying to quell the storm that recently started to explode in the media. (Once we are a few hundred more dollars per BTC, they won't be able to. It is my STRONG belief we need to go slow here. Don't try
to do to much too fast (regarding price)).

Now the Fed is investigating the effect we have on their money. Wow, a private corporation seeing if we impact them. I think their terrible policy (e.g. - inflation - 85 bill more $ a month) is doing that fine alone.

It will be interesting to see who gets to that point of no return first, TPTB or BTC. My bet is on the latter and we might have already crossed that threshold, though the legality hanging over us needs
some attention as we are up against criminals who profit from wars and have been enslaving people for a long time. They don't want "competition" and they will make a more obvious move, count on it.

Exciting times ahead. Our Anti-Fragile Black Swan has entered the building and she is not going anywhere (see my sig). To do so just makes her stronger. We are the beginning of a technological revolution that we just don't understand yet.

My Brother,
IAS

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order in numbers

Well done sir. Well done...
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make no mistake... this is a revolution

Consider our current monetary system: The central banks of this world are executing a "race to the bottom" between their FIAT-Currencies in order to keep GDP up (among other things), causing severe distortions in the otherwise functioning economy. Misallocations of capital continually produce bubbles and false price signals. Saving (setting aside money for later) is made impossible, hence money is not withheld from immediate spending (not because of the immediate need for products/services, but because of artificial inlfation). Manipulatd interest rates send false signals to the economy to do the wrong thing. The economy is sick... sick with a bad kind of money.

I don't want there to be a fucking 3rd world war... and I don't think most of you do, either.

I think there's a way to avoid it: if we transition to using types of money that are not controlled by the power-elite quickly enough, they simply wont be able to finance a war.

I don't want to be a serf,.. a slave, told by some institutionalized asshole how to act and think. I don't think you do, either. I don't want to be controlled by mass-channeled propaganda. And I don't think you do, either. I don't want to be constantly monitored in all my moves and analyzed in all my emotional state and thoughts. I don't want to be controlled, I want to be free. And I think you want to be free, too.

So what to do?


Nice opening post.

War is a way of wasting economic capabilities by building expensive items and the blowing them up on purpose.
sr. member
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Predictions:
  • 1. Bitcoin will usher in the largest creation of wealth in the history of mankind.
  • 2. Historians will discuss BB (before Bitcoin)  and AB (after Bitcoin) as a defining moment in the history of money.
  • 3. Many early adopter will become fabulously wealthy. And with this wealth will come great power and potentially political might as well.
  • 4. Central banks will be forced to compete much the same way that the post office must compete with email.
  • 5. When the debt implosion occurs in fiat currency, Bitcoin will stand even taller, and those that have entrusted their savings into Bicoin will be rewarded by its preservation.



1. bitcoin doesn't create net wealth, it destroys it in the form of electricity, and aloooot of it, existing currencies don't do this at all. let me take this moment to emphasize that energy consumed by financial services such as banks are not energy consumed to keep currency from dying, energy consumed by financial services are unrelated to the currency itself and the same would apply to bitcoin financial services anyway
2. too stupid for comment
3. already happened, it only happens once and it was on the back of naive people who haven't even realised it yet
4. they will perhaps adapt slightly, but that is all they need to do and probably will never have to (atleast not with bitcoin 1.0)
5. Debt implosion implies significant increase in dollar value, your mom and dad will beg and eat their own shit to get their hands on a dollar to pay their dollar denominated debts and to prevent getting into wars as another means of payment to that debt
sr. member
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♫ A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw ♫
+10000000!

I am humbled by your eloquence sir, thank you for this!
donator
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Dr. Steve,

I think your predictions are all likely to come true....

Predictions:
  • Bitcoin will usher in the largest creation of wealth in the history of mankind.

likely. While bitcoin itself doesn't create wealth (you can't print wealth), it enables the people to create, through voluntary exchange (the economy), to create wealth.

  • Historians will discuss BB (before Bitcoin)  and AB (after Bitcoin) as a defining moment in the history of money.

also likely. gold will be seen as a crude precursor to cryptocurrency that could only be exchanged locally. However, I think future historians will view "the internet" as the big change that happened. They will not even be aware that the internet has existed before cryptocurrency has.

  • Many early adopter will become fabulously wealthy. And with this wealth will come great power and potentially political might as well.

Yes. They will be wealthy. But they will not rule the land by force. They will be investors and visionaries and they will try big crazy things. And in the end they will pass on their wealth or distribute it in some way and they will have lived good lifes. No envy. With great wealth comes great responsibility.

  • Central banks will be forced to compete much the same way that the post office must compete with email.

also likely. however I think they will go down much faster. The post office still exists.

  • When the debt implosion occurs in fiat currency, Bitcoin will stand even taller, and those that have entrusted their savings into Bicoin will be rewarded by its preservation.

also likely. let's just see to it that violence is minimized and let's welcome the past wrong-doers with open arms and enable them to play a positive part in our new society.
legendary
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April 01, 2013, 09:09:43 AM
#64
Excact.

With bitcoin, we will have a to rebuild a whole society! I think this will become really huge
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Poor impulse control.
April 01, 2013, 09:02:20 AM
#63
Wait, what? This molecular?

You've inspired me to think a bit harder about the larger societal effects of Bitcoin, not just where I could spend my coins next. Thank you.

 
The era of the Nationstate is ending... The era of the corporatocracy is ending,... actually the era of aristocracy or whatever the structure of the current power-elite is, is ending.

This is the era of the people.

It will probably be the era of the cryptocracy. I'm not sure if this will be a good thing or not - anonymity in bitcoin has given us both Satoshi and Pirate.
legendary
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April 01, 2013, 08:49:00 AM
#62
Very good post!

Viva la revolution!  Cool
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March 31, 2013, 05:01:56 PM
#61
the powers that be.
donator
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March 31, 2013, 03:45:13 PM
#60
Very well written.

But perhaps you should replace the phrase "power elite" with something more neutral. It sounds a bit too much like a tinfoil hatter in my opinion.

Believe it or not, but some people in the "power elite" are actually on our side.

I agree and I would be happy to change it. Been thinking about this a couple of times while I was writing, but I haven't been able to come up with anything good.

Happy about suggestions.
legendary
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bitcoin - the aerogel of money
March 31, 2013, 01:50:35 PM
#59
Very well written.

But perhaps you should replace the phrase "power elite" with something more neutral. It sounds a bit too much like a tinfoil hatter in my opinion.

Believe it or not, but some people in the "power elite" are actually on our side.
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March 31, 2013, 09:28:35 AM
#58
someone made a fork of this and sent the result to me:

Quote from: anon
This is Revolution, No Mistake! (FUCK THE DEBT, CANCEL THE STATE)

I am telling the power-elite, their puppets, bankers and politicians:

YOU FUCKED US!
GET LOST.

We are taking charge now by introducing a new kind of money. A true free market money. We welcome all other money to enter the competition. May the best money win.

Bitcoin: People's Money. You are your bank. Bitcoin is a tool we use to be our own banks. You control your money, and you control the money supply. No banks needed. Just sound money.
We don't need to fight the establishment. We live decently and work hard. We are not aggressive. We just happen to use our own money, thanks.
POINT: Bitcoin is not for gathering wealth. Bitcoin is for freedom. We demand freedom of financial speech.
POINT: Our economy is built on a pack of lies. Corporate monopolists dominate an economy made of people, and we measure it's performance in some braindead value (called GDP), not in the happiness of the people in it.
POINT: Our current monetary system is dead. Central banks worldwide are racing to the bottom. FIAT-Currencies are causing massive market distortions to keep GDP up. Capital is flowing towards bubbles and false price signals. Saving is impossible and people are forced to burn money by spending, spending, spending. Interest rates are manipulated. The economy is sick... sick with bad money.
POINT: The fiat-money regime has spun a web of illusions and democratic values. Parliaments in Europe are installed with puppets. Democratic values are disregarded daily. These technocrats were not elected by anyone, yet they shape policy, legislature and the whole regulatory environment. They manipulate rules governing police and military. These puppets are installed with orders by their backers.
They execute orders, and we swallow. They disrespect us all the fucking time. They don't care.
But you care. You respect yourself. You represent and you care about yourself.
The internet is not surveillance tools like Facebook or Google. The internet nurtures creativity, personality and culture, and should respect your thoughts and conversations.
Internet where people publish without fear, couple's whisper in private and amateur photos are posted in public, uncensored. Internet money is shared freely and privately. We have rights to social, sexual, intellectual and economic speech.

Consider what the regime is doing: Every inch of your life is under surveillance. War propaganda is pumped out daily. At the end of most fiat currency regimes, there is a war. Currency collapse is used to cover up the scam and keep it going one more time.

They are driving everyone's faces into the mud in a race to the bottom.

We offer a way to avoid this:
   transition to money uncontrolled by central powers and withdraw support for war.

State controlled capitalism is called fascism. What do we call capital-controlled statism? Well whatever it is, it's sucking life from our minds and won't stop until we're all zombies ready for the second coming of Hitler.

Nationstates are reaching the end of their time, and the corporate led democracy is collapsing under pressure from its own weight.

This is the era of people!
Never before in history have we had such a unique opportunity to take back and defend our rights. Technology is revamping the social landscape by equipping and empowering entire new swathes of thought and individuals throughout society.
Don't be a slave. Don't be told by institutionalized robots how to act and think. Don't be controlled by mass-channeled propaganda. Be free. Start a business. Research through internet.


Bitcoin and the internet empower us to ensure our freedom, well-being and prosperity of both the human culture/society and also each of the individuals inside it.

Start behaving like it.

Be the change you want to see!

Predictions:
  • Bitcoin will usher in the largest creation of wealth in the history of mankind.
  • Historians will discuss BB (before Bitcoin)  and AB (after Bitcoin) as a defining moment in the history of money.
  • Many early adopter will become fabulously wealthy. And with this wealth will come great power and potentially political might as well.
  • Central banks will be forced to compete much the same way that the post office must compete with email.
  • When the debt implosion occurs in fiat currency, Bitcoin will stand even taller, and those that have entrusted their savings into Bicoin will be rewarded by its preservation.

legendary
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Newbie
March 31, 2013, 07:34:22 AM
#57
make no mistake... this is a revolution

Isn't REVOLUTION == CATASTROPHE? One word in Greek, the other in Latin...

"Catastrophe" means "complete failure". Depending on what fails completely it can be good or bad.

I like this definition of revolution:

Quote from: wikipedia
A revolution (from the Latin revolutio, "a turn around") is a fundamental change in power or organizational structures that takes place in a relatively short period of time.


OK. I just wanted to point that centuries ago both words had the same meaning - overturn - one was in Greek, the other in Latin. So, be careful with revolution...
donator
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March 31, 2013, 07:22:36 AM
#56
make no mistake... this is a revolution

Isn't REVOLUTION == CATASTROPHE? One word in Greek, the other in Latin...

"Catastrophe" means "complete failure". Depending on what fails completely it can be good or bad.

I like this definition of revolution:

Quote from: wikipedia
A revolution (from the Latin revolutio, "a turn around") is a fundamental change in power or organizational structures that takes place in a relatively short period of time.
legendary
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Newbie
March 31, 2013, 03:21:20 AM
#55
make no mistake... this is a revolution

Isn't REVOLUTION == CATASTROPHE? One word in Greek, the other in Latin...
donator
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March 30, 2013, 07:22:45 PM
#54
Thanks for summing up what I have been feeling for such along time Molecular.

glad to have spoken your soul.


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March 30, 2013, 06:51:49 PM
#53
Thanks for summing up what I have been feeling for such along time Molecular.

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March 30, 2013, 06:37:58 PM
#52
YOU FUCKED UP,
THANK YOU.
WE'LL TAKE IT FROM HERE!
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Love the "Thank You".
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March 30, 2013, 06:25:46 PM
#51
PS. you are usually so quiet and polite, nice to see the firebrand back. All these years can weigh heavy on a soul and you can always count on our support and the continued support from the many old-timers here.

soothing words.
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