Topic: Make your topic title, posts more attractive (Read 2003 times)
I don't offend but you can make your post (above) shorter. The shorter the better because it will save reading time of readers as well as don't result in distraction.
Sometimes people create a constructive post with a detailed message but they don't add their data source link or a website where they could check the authenticity of their post. Also, some people copy content from the English forum and post it into their local forum without giving credit to the main post and author or put the main data source. I am not sure it's allowed or not.
It is not allowed. Even you don't know forum rule, you should self-recognize something is wrong with such posting style and motivation behind it.33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e]
I am not sure it's allowed or not.
Creating a constructive post without putting a source others can verify the information from is not a problem, except the text was copied directly from that source and duplicated on the forum. We should all make the effort to verify our posts, but not doing so is not explicitly breaking any rules.I can have come across a piece of information online and took it to be factual, if I were to repeat that on the forum, that would not be a forum offense, other members would likely correct me and I'll unlearn the wrong information.
About the second point; Copying content and duplicating it without putting the source is plagiarism and results in a permanent ban. It doesn't matter if the text is spun or if it's translated to another language.
I seems that to make a tangible and understand topic is based on personal intelligence because everyone wishes to compose a topic that will elevate him / her in forum and make the user influential in the community, because someone can't decide to portrays a negative point that will bring it's reputation down, i think nice topic attracts good reaction of comments and from my views i comprehend that another criteria that can make someone to create a discussion topic is based on research and observation from the forum, That is the reason some people have to reframed topic title but exactly the same but slight difference.
In brief:
- Topic title is a hook. A better hook, a better attraction, a higher traffic.
- Don't abuse hooks.
- Topic title is a start but no one will read all of your thread if it is unnecessary sketching to be as lengthy as possible.
- First time, viewers can read your topic/ thread but for the second, third, ten time, no viewer minds to read yours.
- Shorter is better.
- Your post: Look, please! It is too lengthy (unnecessary -- 107 words in total, no dots). You should learn to use punctuation, grammar structures, linking words and please keep it short.
- Hook (topic title) - Contents - Success/ failure
- Nice hook - Good contents - Increasing potential success
- Bad hook - Good contents - Likely failure
- Bad hook - Bad contents - Definitely failure
- Writing a succinct and attractive topic title is very difficult. The art of writing
My post is not written to hurt you. It is about basic rule of writing skills. If you feel I am hurting or attacking you (you are wrong).
Cheers
Thanks for the information, because we are here to learn positively and accept corrections and also it's obvious that know one is encyclopedia of knowledge, I really appreciate the directives
I seems that to make a tangible and understand topic is based on personal intelligence because everyone wishes to compose a topic that will elevate him / her in forum and make the user influential in the community, because someone can't decide to portrays a negative point that will bring it's reputation down, i think nice topic attracts good reaction of comments and from my views i comprehend that another criteria that can make someone to create a discussion topic is based on research and observation from the forum, That is the reason some people have to reframed topic title but exactly the same but slight difference.
In brief:
- Topic title is a hook. A better hook, a better attraction, a higher traffic.
- Don't abuse hooks.
- Topic title is a start but no one will read all of your thread if it is unnecessary sketching to be as lengthy as possible.
- First time, viewers can read your topic/ thread but for the second, third, ten time, no viewer minds to read yours.
- Shorter is better.
- Your post: Look, please! It is too lengthy (unnecessary -- 107 words in total, no dots). You should learn to use punctuation, grammar structures, linking words and please keep it short.
- Hook (topic title) - Contents - Success/ failure
- Nice hook - Good contents - Increasing potential success
- Bad hook - Good contents - Likely failure
- Bad hook - Bad contents - Definitely failure
- Writing a succinct and attractive topic title is very difficult. The art of writing
My post is not written to hurt you. It is about basic rule of writing skills. If you feel I am hurting or attacking you (you are wrong).
Cheers
I seems that to make a tangible and understand topic is based on personal intelligence because everyone wishes to compose a topic that will elevate him / her in forum and make the user influential in the community, because someone can't decide to portrays a negative point that will bring it's reputation down, i think nice topic attracts good reaction of comments and from my views i comprehend that another criteria that can make someone to create a discussion topic is based on research and observation from the forum, That is the reason some people have to reframed topic title but exactly the same but slight difference.
Many of a time in this forum, I have seen many post that has the same details explanation but different topic title that has the same meaning. Post like ''India ban bitcoin, bitcoin is illegal in India, India government declares bitcoin illegal etc.
It's will be quite okay if posting a web news, share the link of such information for better understanding of the story
It's will be quite okay if posting a web news, share the link of such information for better understanding of the story
To write a constructive post, those instructions are very fruitful. I think, if any one follow the rules described here, he/she will be able to introduce a meaningful, constructive and dramatically error free post. Anything little but meaningful is understood easily. Generally people feel boring to read large passage and thereby avoid it. So, attractive short post is very much important for all. The title is the synopses of all the written in the passage. So, should be short and representative to the post.
Obviously, I'm completely out of touch with modern forum usage. I looked at the OP, and I didn't read it, as I considered it should be a web page article, and not a forum post. I still think of a forum as a venue for discussion, and thus it should contain links to external sources where detailed or complex issues are to be referenced.
I dont often make threads, but for every thread making, the title is the most important thing to think about in order to make it more interesting.
In addition to an interesting title, the purpose of the thread made must also be considered in my opinion. Good grammar to read, adapted images and sources are also included in the important points that must remain in the thread.
In my opinion, contents are the most important things of one topics, letters, articles but without good topic titles, writers or threads' creators will lose his or her opportunities to catch attention of readers, then lose traffics for their threads.In addition to an interesting title, the purpose of the thread made must also be considered in my opinion. Good grammar to read, adapted images and sources are also included in the important points that must remain in the thread.
But as I said, a good topic title is not enough because one can stop by because an attractive topic title but he or she will stop reading if contents are boring (they might read a few first lines before leaving your boring threads).
Applying those tips, to build up attractive, contentful and succint topics' titles and contents will do help your threads' traffics.
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Below are some of the threads I have made so far, I think it is good for my efforts to achieve quality posts. But are there any other inputs for me?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52920569
I am sorry but only this one was written in English so I can understand this one only.https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52920569
With this one, if I was you I will rename the topic title as "The latest human innovation: Bitcoin - Pros and Cons". However, I am not sure that you did mentioned about Cons in your topic. I scanned it and it seems you only talked about Pros.
I dont often make threads, but for every thread making, the title is the most important thing to think about in order to make it more interesting.
In addition to an interesting title, the purpose of the thread made must also be considered in my opinion. Good grammar to read, adapted images and sources are also included in the important points that must remain in the thread.
Below are some of the threads I have made so far, I think it is good for my efforts to achieve quality posts. But are there any other inputs for me?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53003802
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52970867
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52920569
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51175721
In addition to an interesting title, the purpose of the thread made must also be considered in my opinion. Good grammar to read, adapted images and sources are also included in the important points that must remain in the thread.
Below are some of the threads I have made so far, I think it is good for my efforts to achieve quality posts. But are there any other inputs for me?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53003802
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52970867
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52920569
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51175721
Do you think you could build an algorithm to score based on preset rules like these?
The canvas of language cannot be captured by that of rigid means: quality hooks itself around the mastery of semantic and syntactical manipulation.True, but useful query information is in demand.
She types at a speed 99% below norm
He uses simple sentences fives times more than most
It uses an adblocker
etc...
Advertisers would love vetted viewers. People using a service like that would make their money back by increased advertising rates.
Invasion of society/privacy you may think? It's already happening - we are simply leading the masses, like we did with bitcoin. Much better to build a open source solution
Do you think you could build an algorithm to score based on preset rules like these? I'm sure a lot of industries would benefit by a system introducing automation to post quality. For example, I want to write for your blog and I present the last 100 posts I have made, along with the quality score you develop. You don't even look my my resume, only my quality score.
If you collect a database of messages for example, you could sell services based on the writing skill of profiles. By proper indexing of their posts and subsequent meta data, you could sell an "author to website" service on a piecework and bid basis, with higher scores receiving higher payment.
You certainly could. Very much like the way common SEO checkers check for headings you can add keywords which are usually not suited for titles, and give them a score out of 100 with common factors that make titles more attractive. Integrating it as an extension or within the website software itself would likely benefit some people. For smaller websites might even be worth including SEO while keeping the titles attractive to further rank the website.
If one is lazy enough to ignore that thread, s/he will be lazy enough to ignore another pinned thread if there is a special thread for Topic title style guide.
I totally missed it on that thread, although I have seen the post quite a long time ago on the actual board it was posted in.
I also have a feeling like only good posters care about their topic title.
Some others care, but in the wrong way, some use it as click bait to attract other members to view their project's information offering bogus promises, while some use it to attract users tk their threads (possibly for merit gains).
Theymos' guide: Topic title style guide
Wow, nice find on that link! I used to browse really old threads (some of them are fascinating) but never came across this one, and it's a great idea to make it visible again.
In my opinion, that thread by theymos should be a sticky thread on the beginners and help board or should be added to the HELP option of the forum as a hint for users seeking help on how to properly use the forum posting options.
It has already mentioned in one of pinned threads: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQIf one is lazy enough to ignore that thread, s/he will be lazy enough to ignore another pinned thread if there is a special thread for Topic title style guide.
Q: How should I name my thread? / Are there any guidelines to naming threads?
A: A post from the admin, theymos, explains it pretty well. See: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/topic-title-style-guide-102944
A: A post from the admin, theymos, explains it pretty well. See: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/topic-title-style-guide-102944
Wow, nice find on that link!
In my opinion, that thread by theymos should be a sticky thread on the beginners and help board or should be added to the HELP option of the forum as a hint for users seeking help on how to properly use the forum posting options.
Theymos' guide: Topic title style guide
Wow, nice find on that link! I used to browse really old threads (some of them are fascinating) but never came across this one, and it's a great idea to make it visible again.There are some seriously bad thread titles in sections like Economics and Bitcoin/Altcoin Discussion. I don't know how many I've come across where the title is "Bitcoin" or something extremely vague like that. I think I've even reported a couple of threads because the title was waaay too vague. Then there are threads in the English section where it's blatantly obvious the thread starters know zero English--some of them are almost laughably bad.
Newcomers to the forum should definitely be schooled in how to write a nice, concise thread title which also makes it clear what the thread is about. I'm hoping this here thread gets some views, because it's pretty useful. Props, OP. It's one of those forum issues that never really gets addressed because it's more of an annoyance than a major problem.
Do you think you could build an algorithm to score based on preset rules like these?
The canvas of language cannot be captured by that of rigid means: quality hooks itself around the mastery of semantic and syntactical manipulation. The ability to follow correct grammatical rules does not necessarily indicate that somebody is an accomplished, or even a good writer.
Writing to convert, convince or educate is a skill that can be demonstrated even without absolute mastery of the fundamentals of the English language.
Look at most of those websites that sell guides, e.g. The Brit Method and similar. These guys don't have complete mastery of grammar or even lexis, but they still manage to convert. Therefore, such a tool would only indicate that a person is capable of following the basics, rather than completing writing that people want to read.
I did not mention anything about English grammar in OP, because English grammar is not the determinant factor for your post quality.Writing to convert, convince or educate is a skill that can be demonstrated even without absolute mastery of the fundamentals of the English language.
Look at most of those websites that sell guides, e.g. The Brit Method and similar. These guys don't have complete mastery of grammar or even lexis, but they still manage to convert. Therefore, such a tool would only indicate that a person is capable of following the basics, rather than completing writing that people want to read.
- A post is not a good or understandable one if it was written by broken-English (includes both grammar and vocabulary).
- A post is not a good or high quality one if it was only written in perfect English, with correct grammar and superfluous words. Quality mostly come from ideas behind posts. Grammar and vocabulary are only tools that support to express your ideas better, and more easily understandable.
There is no reason to use un-common words because the forum is an international, and not all users use English as their first language.
In my opinion, sharpen English grammar and knowledge on crypto are better than try to learn un-common words, but users must not be proficient in English to make helpful or high quality posts here
When trying to write quality posts, a lot of people act as though they're writing a book report for school: putting facts that we already know into their own words. Nobody wants to read that, and you will not get merit for it. Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.
If you look at my topic title, it is written as " ... more attractive". Practicing those steps well does not make your posts become higher quality if you don't put any creative ideas inside. 
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Do you think you could build an algorithm to score based on preset rules like these? I'm sure a lot of industries would benefit by a system introducing automation to post quality. For example, I want to write for your blog and I present the last 100 posts I have made, along with the quality score you develop. You don't even look my my resume, only my quality score.
If you collect a database of messages for example, you could sell services based on the writing skill of profiles. By proper indexing of their posts and subsequent meta data, you could sell an "author to website" service on a piecework and bid basis, with higher scores receiving higher payment.
The ability to follow correct grammatical rules does not necessarily indicate that somebody is an accomplished, or even a good writer.
Writing to convert, convince or educate is a skill that can be demonstrated even without absolute mastery of the fundamentals of the English language.
Look at most of those websites that sell guides, e.g. The Brit Method and similar. These guys don't have complete mastery of grammar or even lexis, but they still manage to convert. Therefore, such a tool would only indicate that a person is capable of following the basics, rather than completing writing that people want to read.
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