Topic: MakeBTC.org Pyramid Scheme - page 2. (Read 18655 times)
the website is working now...
I simply pointed out that "he could have run with more" argument is unsound, since you don't know how much of the pot is sucker money.
...We are in the dark but it doesn't add up to run away at this stage bc he could have make so much more or run away at a better time; I don't think I will see my 0.3BTC which was my level on the website
Lol look:
For a successful Ponzi, there must be an illusion of many investors. This is easily done by "investing" the schemer's own money -- he'll get it back.
You never know just how much of the pot is real sucker coin, because you're not meant to know.
It can be from 30 to 90% of the early deposits but it isn't that much of a problem if the owner doesn't run away with the funds, is professional and advertise the website bc a lot of people can make money gambling
The problem with most pyramids is that the owner run away with funds and there is technical difficulties not dealt with
...We are in the dark but it doesn't add up to run away at this stage bc he could have make so much more or run away at a better time; I don't think I will see my 0.3BTC which was my level on the website
Lol look:
For a successful Ponzi, there must be an illusion of many investors. This is easily done by "investing" the schemer's own money -- he'll get it back.
You never know just how much of the pot is real sucker coin, because you're not meant to know.
So he says, but where's Mr. Makebtc or your Bitcoins?
Neither of both do I know, all I'm saying is that at this point of time you can't say Mr. Makebtc deliberately did a bunk.
He is not coming out to say "I am sorry, I will reopen the website" or "the funds are safe I will pay back"
He may have had an accident but it is uber unlikely
We are in the dark but it doesn't add up to run away at this stage bc he could have make so much more or run away at a better time; I don't think I will see my 0.3BTC which was my level on the website
So he says, but where's Mr. Makebtc or your Bitcoins?
Neither of both do I know, all I'm saying is that at this point of time you can't say Mr. Makebtc deliberately did a bunk.
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I don't think that's how thieves or scammers work 
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.Mr. makebtc so far didn't steal or scam anyone. nrd525 got the site suspended, so he's the one to blame for Mr. makebtc cannot continue offering his service.
See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/theymos-is-taking-illegal-ads-from-a-ponzi-scheme-makebtcorg-472000
So he says, but where's Mr. Makebtc or your Bitcoins?
ALERT/INFO
There's a new site online which copies the makebtc concept:
http://qoingrow.com/
The people from badbitcoin.org call it "Ponzi/Scam", see http://www.badbitcoin.org/badlist/index.htm
BTW: Here's what the same people say about makebtc.org:
"The site has been suspended by the host as somebody reported it as a gambling site. We hope people don't lose their Btc as this appeared to be an honest and moderately sustainable scheme - ongoing - 12/03/14" (see http://www.badbitcoin.org/)
There's a new site online which copies the makebtc concept:
http://qoingrow.com/
The people from badbitcoin.org call it "Ponzi/Scam", see http://www.badbitcoin.org/badlist/index.htm
BTW: Here's what the same people say about makebtc.org:
"The site has been suspended by the host as somebody reported it as a gambling site. We hope people don't lose their Btc as this appeared to be an honest and moderately sustainable scheme - ongoing - 12/03/14" (see http://www.badbitcoin.org/)
I don't think that's how thieves or scammers work .
.Mr. makebtc so far didn't steal or scam anyone. nrd525 got the site suspended, so he's the one to blame for Mr. makebtc cannot continue offering his service.
See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/theymos-is-taking-illegal-ads-from-a-ponzi-scheme-makebtcorg-472000
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So, we ever gonna get back what you have stolen?
I don't think that's how thieves or scammers work
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So, we ever gonna get back what you have stolen?
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Did you remember AlterMine site?
Same things. (if not his first project).
Regards.
Did you remember AlterMine site?
Same things. (if not his first project).
Regards.
Nah. "Technical difficulties" is a standard tool in the arsenal of ePonzi.
+1 creativity for running suspendedpage.cgi, though -- i'm impressed.
+1 creativity for running suspendedpage.cgi, though -- i'm impressed.
@Cognitive2013: All Ponzis pay until they don't. That's just... how Ponzis work.
The problem is not that the ponzi doesn't get new depositors/players but that the website is not online anymore
There is a difference between being a late depositor and not getting paid and the owner running away with the money or technical problems
@Cognitive2013: All Ponzis pay until they don't. That's just... how Ponzis work.
I got it suspended for falsely presenting itself as an investment website. It is a gambling website.
It's probably not even a gambling site now, but possibly a scam one which may or may not be thanks to you. I don't agree with Ponzis but if people want to use them them then they can. I'm not sure whether the site was taken down because of your report but if it was you've possibly now given the operator the perfect excuse to close shop and run off with everyone's funds.
It is not certain that nrd525 actually did suspend the site. He just claims he did. Don't give him too much credit, unless we get some firm proof, or hear back from Mr MakeBTC. Unfortunately, it's not looking good right now, site still suspended.
Also, nrd525, if you are so influential, why don't you get bitvestor.us suspended as well? They have actually taken BTC to get to level 8 and not paid out when they reached it - unlike makeBTC.org, which always paid...
Anyone else getting the message "This Account Has Been Suspended" when opening makebtc.org?
Yes getting the same message.
I got it suspended for falsely presenting itself as an investment website. It is a gambling website.
It's probably not even a gambling site now, but possibly a scam one which may or may not be thanks to you. I don't agree with Ponzis but if people want to use them them then they can. I'm not sure whether the site was taken down because of your report but if it was you've possibly now given the operator the perfect excuse to close shop and run off with everyone's funds.
There was "only" 10BTC to steal when he could have steal more each bank from 11 to 19
There was still deposits everyday 0.1 to 0.3 so it would make sense to wait before running away
He was probably very invested in the scheme through multiple accounts that registered early on so he was probably making 3-7BTC every bank + fees
It is weird that he doesn't say anything now though; I didn't do the exact calculations yet but I have deposited around 0.25 and I withdrew app 0.12 so it could have been worth
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I got it suspended for falsely presenting itself as an investment website. It is a gambling website.
It's probably not even a gambling site now, but possibly a scam one which may or may not be thanks to you. I don't agree with Ponzis but if people want to use them them then they can. I'm not sure whether the site was taken down because of your report but if it was you've possibly now given the operator the perfect excuse to close shop and run off with everyone's funds.
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