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Topic: Making a long post is not the ultimate - page 3. (Read 673 times)

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The funny thing @OP himself is the one who trying to make his post longer than it what should be and many users that post in this thread do same lol.

The problem is that you make it too concise or too short that there's nothing worth discussing on your topic, you will always end up getting that post deleted and since there's really no metric of what's the acceptable length for a thread starter
Not really, this post consists of 4 words and it didn't get deleted since 2 months ago. There's a difference between "posting for nothing" and "posting for something".

What are those features?
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If you can hit a keyword and get straight to the point on a particular topic, what's the point of stressing things? 
 
The more you write, sometimes it complicates things without the author even realising it. At the beginning, most of the long text might have meaning, but the more you read it, the more confused you get about what the person is saying.
The problem is that you make it too concise or too short that there's nothing worth discussing on your topic, you will always end up getting that post deleted and since there's really no metric of what's the acceptable length for a thread starter, it will always be a guessing game for the newbies but that's not even an excuse anyway, I mean there are other things that you can do to improve how you post, just looking at what the other people post here in the forum and you would easily differentiate the mistakes that you've committed. Totally agree that the more you right, the more you complicate things and in some cases, hyperfocus on one subject without expounding on it to further improve your point, maybe knowing when to get to talking and when to do less talking, you'll probably going to see the improvements.
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Actually making your post to be very lengthy, and also making a quality post, this are two different things if you're making your post to look very lengthy you also need to make it look more quality because the  quality of your post matters a lot. However making a lengthy post is not the ultimate the most important thing is how quality is the post? Because if you keep making quality post that's how people are getting attracted to your post, you know people always get attracted to quality stuff. making our post to be very lengthy is good but we also need to make it look more quality and also reasonable so as to attract people, this will make you to gain marit so easily for those who always look for a quick way to gain marit.
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Op you absolutely correct, lengthy post is not an ultimate for a making a quality post.Most times I would want to contribute on lengthy posts buh you know what I get discouraged due to the lengthiness of the post because I don't the time to read long post,at times when I'm reading lengthy post I get confused most times.Lengthy post isn't equivalent to quality post you just have to be brief and go straight to the point.In essence I'm not saying that all lengthy posts are shit post but most users just have that thought that they would be merited only if they make their post long but notwithstanding even with 4 paragraph you can still get merited if only your on the track.
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Sometimes posts made by some of our people is confusing when reading the post, just want to emphasize on this because I know that long posts doesn't guarantee a quality post, but make your post to be understanding to the user, I know that necessity of people making a long post is because they needed a merit but that doesn't show a quality post, a quality post is a post that carries formative post not to be long without a good information or educate people of what they suppose know...
Yes, it's not a matter of whether it's long or short, but it's the content and how someone can summarize and present the writing so that it's easier to read, understand, and familiar to other memes, and doesn't get bored of reading it. Whether it is long or short is not a problem. because sometimes people's writing styles are different, some people like to get straight to the point, some people have to have clear explanations, some people are convoluted.

but if it was written like in the quote, honestly, it would be quite boring and don't expect to read more than 2 sentences. It would be better if there were paragraph separations and organized  as well as sentences or points so that what is conveyed can be more easily received and it can be more comfortable to read. But then again, maybe everyone has time to be independent in making much better posts, as long as they are willing to learn.
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Some time ago I used to write a very long post although then I had enough time to run around the forum but as soon as I began my academics section I couldn't write long post, although my long posts where not necessarily as OP's because i quoted a lot of people in one post contributing my thoughts. It was seen as a good post some times but I felt there was no need to keep writing such long post as I was only repeating thoughts but now I only write straight to the point even though it's short. I got this idea of writing straight to the point from a role model @LoyceV since then I don't complicate things when writing.

I can say OP still has enough time to write but if it's necessary, I'm okay with the writing but if it's full of shit then I will skip. Some times making illustration to express your idea or thoughts makes a post very interesting but when it's not to pass a good knowledge then it's very shitty.
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We have the option to ignore it, don't we? I often come across such posts created by newbies trying to say something with a long wall of text but the concept isn't clear, and when I don't get the context, I simply leave it and ignore the thread. If I find the same user repeating the same thing, I ignore the user to avoid seeing such posts again only to waste my time.

Whether newbies do this for merits or not, one thing is clear they don't like reading much and are more fond of writing because if they were into reading as well, they would have read the guidelines provided all around the forum about how one should behave in the forum.
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If there is one thing I have learned on this forum, it's quality matters the most. sometimes writing lengthy posts can make some merit sources feel that the post is a quality one however overtime once the realize that such use is creating bulky post without quality, they begin to skip and ignore your write ups. Another thing people get wrong is the way the present their long texts on the forum.

Sometimes forum members skip quality posts just because they appear too bulky and seem difficult and time consuming to read. Therefore when making long posts and threads, it is important that you paraphrase and punctuate your post to the best of your ability making sure you make use of paragraphs where necessary.

Not everyone here is a proper English writer or speaker however if you are conveying the right and proper information your posts will definitely gain attention.
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Sometimes posts made by some of our people is confusing when reading the post, just want to emphasize on this because I know that long posts doesn't guarantee a quality post, but make your post to be understanding to the user, I know that necessity of people making a long post is because they needed a merit but that doesn't show a quality post,

I don't discourage long post but when you can make a short response and also pass on the information that you want to pass across, I encourage that. I feel there are some responses that needs you to elaborate on what you're writing and in this circumstances you can't help it but make your post lengthy although there are some replies that don't necessary need to be long but spammers use that posting pattern to appear like they have something meaningful to say but if you calm down to read their replies they're garbage and a waste of time.

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a quality post is a post that carries formative post not to be long without a good information or educate people of what they suppose know...people deviates from their area of concentration when they make a long post and sometimes their point will be pointless because of much mistakes ....its better for you to make a few lines of post that's meaningful than making 20 paragraphs with pointless narrative.

You should also know that shorter replies doesn't equal to quality, the quantity of the words in your replies doesn't equal to quality. It's the content of what you wrote and how on topic those words are that determine if your post is a quality one or not. This is a forum and it needs discussion and not just posting patterns that looks like that of an AI.
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Most of the times I ignore reading such posts but sometimes when such posts appear on first page then I sometimes read those posts. However, the post you shared is not written very well, but it's an attempt to show others that how one can write such long posts.

I know that sometimes you'll have to make your post a little bit longer if you want to add detail information in it but most of the times making such posts isn't needed and one should try his/her best to avoid making such long posts.
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The problem is that you realise that the post is not worth the time reading it after you lost too much time reading it Sad


If you know that a user writes "nonsense" then you will put him to "ignore" or you will simply not read his posts anymore. Those who use such topics to write some kind of post are fascinating to me, because I'm sure they don't read much more than the title of the topic, and therefore their answer is mostly meaningless. On the other hand, signature spammers do not choose where to write, nor do they care if something makes sense or not.

What the majority should do is ignore such articles, but also sometimes use the "report to moderator" button, because a good part of such topics can be reported as "low value", "off-topic" and similar.
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The user you quoted can be called a unique person who seems to spend all day posting on here, and maybe not only on this forum. There is even a separate topic dedicated to this character. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5495074
However, OP, you are right. Long posts are very rarely interesting when there is no "water" in them, and they have a very simple and clear style, leading to something basic that is worth a lot of reading.
But here, on the forum, we can get by with the most important things, with what we want or disagree with, without tormenting the reader’s eyesight.
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I think and agree with one common school of thought, and that is, 'brevity is king.' I don't know if am putting it right, but I am sure I have in few words buttressed my point without much explanation.

In conclusion, unless it's a research paper or some kind of thesis or something scientific or theoritical that wants to be shared or talked about, I don't think a story or a post in form of a questionaire, or a comment should be so long that a reader gets lost and confused in between lines.
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I'm not criticising you but rather to correct you, most of this user topic is elongated and you can't comprehend exactly what the point is navigating to, the main reason this forum is established is to learn from others and it doesn't mean that your composition will be that long before readers will understand your point.
You know, sometimes, when a user is looking for people’s attention, they think if they post plenty words it will drag people’s attention to their post, and funny enough, the thread was dropped under politics and society section.

I will also not criticize the thread but I will advice the poster to learn how to summarize and comprehend lengthy sentences into something very minimal and meaningful that can be read and I understood.

Quality of post depends on the contents and the information it carries along and not how long it is, therefore, make sure you learn before making any post in the forum.
legendary
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If you can hit a keyword and get straight to the point on a particular topic, what's the point of stressing things?
 
The more you write, sometimes it complicates things without the author even realising it. At the beginning, most of the long text might have meaning, but the more you read it, the more confused you get about what the person is saying.
Exactly. The longer your post, the more visible errors will appear, which makes the post more confusing and will lost its main thought in the end. It’s always best to go straight to the point with a short but precise post, than to make a longer post and all you’ve seen are irrelevant and unnecessary points of view. With that, the reader will definitely lost its interest to start reading or to continue reading.
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The problem is that you realise that the post is not worth the time reading it after you lost too much time reading it Sad

This usually happens to me.
It even happened to me reading the post that was quoted by OP. I read the first part hoping so dearly he would make sense, but along the line I knew it wasn't worth it.

I do read long post, but the moment I figure it's not worth it, I just skip it. Aside from the skipping a post because it doesn't make sense, when a post if just jam-packed together with no proper spacing and paragraphing, I tend to skip them. I don't care if the post is long, it should have sense and it should be easy to read.
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Well! most users in this community don't want to read such many words especially when it doesn't make any sense for them to continue rather the posters should make an effort to summarize whatever they wanna say, especially when it comes to asking questions regarding cryptocurrencies so that he will get a god answers as well. Others who are making long posts are those who have strong knowledge regarding crypto giving some comprehensive information whether to prevent others from getting scammed or to further increase their understanding of the new trend in the crypto industry, at this time, you need to focus and take your time to read it carefully because it's for your benefit.
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You do realize you're making the same mistake right?
Writing a phone paragraph repeating the same idea 3 times when you could have made it in only one line sentence?
Yes, we are meant to make a mistake because making a mistake through typos is general including you, you can repeat words but on the process the read will understand your point of view because its not ambiguous like the user I quoted in my thread, at least you have corrected me and I have taken corrections that maybe I can use one sentence to illustrate what I mean in my context, but when you look at the user I quoted profile you can see he or her does it continuously and its not orderly comprehensive, if article is comprehensive you will not complain, but you have understood what I mean.
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Holy crap- I mean, I understand that most newbies associate long posts with quality. But in that case, I really doubt that someone would have the patience to even read that huge blocks of texts. In all honesty, I would never in a million years read that kind of long post especially that if he is beating around the bush.

Newbies, always remember that the key to making quality post is not the quantity of texts that you enter. If you can explain your point in a very concise manner that everyone would understand, then that would be considered as "quality" to majority of the members here.

How long the post could be depends on various factors and in certain cases wall of text is needed for a better and clearer explanation of what we try to convey to the users such as guides and Tutorials about something indeed long and will take a few minutes to read the process and understand.

But how to do it is something that they need to know and there are some guides like [GUIDE] A good post/reply and formatting [UPDATED] can help user to post the long posts in better format.

When I see something that's a completely big wall of text then I don't bother read at all.

I agree that the amount of text that you write in a discussion varies per topic.

There are reputable members here who can write huge blocks of text but remains quality when you read it altogether. If you engage in a fruitful discussion with someone on an interesting topic or debate, then expect a battle of words. But if a topic is as simply as asking for an opinion on something, then at least make your point in 2-3 sentences.
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It is very simple to achieve, you could have make a reference to such post without quoting the entire post on your thread, if some of his contents were AI or plagiarized post, that could simply affect your own post as well because you have made for yourself a copy of them all by quoting the whole contents, anyway, your idea it well fetched because its not by how far but how well, when we make posts, we should not be more concerned on the long contents but the key points in which could be summarized in a few sentences.
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