Making exponential gains trading - page 2.

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Quote from: openagain on September 26, 2019, 11:36:57 PM

I've been trading (?) cryptocurrencies for a little over 5 years and have always had little to no success even doubling my money. I know I know, it's not supposed to be easy to double your money.
I work in finance so I understand that a 20% annualized gain is already a ridiculous amount.

I have however seen players doubling, tripling, 10xing their money through a variety of ways of which I can list here:

-Bitmex, Deribit etc. Perpetual Futures leveraged trading (1-100 x leverage - SUPER HIGH RISK)
-ICO/IEO trading (4-5 returns, MEDIUM RISK)
-Spot Trading (BTC/USD, MEDIUM RISK)
-Deribit Options (MEDIUM RISK)
-Cross Exchange Arbs/DEX Arbing (Buying alts on Dex before exchange launching on Binance - requires insider information)
-Gambling Games (Dice, etc.)

Does anyone else have any ideas to share or methods that consistently gives them good gains?

You've pretty much listed everything down, except for maybe how you can do ICO/IEO "investing" instead of trading.

Also, theres this thing you can do on the freebitco.in where they promise to give you like @ 0.02% interest per day. Computed, thats like 7.2% per year. I'd say it's also high risk since they can simply close down the website and run away with your money and you have nothing to chase them with.

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Quote from: Razick on September 28, 2019, 04:48:15 PM

You can only make so many gains trading before you will end up losing. There isn't any exchange which you can make unlimited trades. They only have so much Fiat available to play with. In terms of exponential, well that's just completely unrealistic dot-dot-dot because you can expect to always profit, let alone make exponential gains.

It is acceptable how it wasn't easy but people had never lost their hopes towards crypto brag them to do trading and never quits. It sounds unrealistic to think of making exponential gains but it (can) be possible if we are the bullish season and of course, if we have in the right choice of coin.

The market remains very challenging especially of the current situation and yet, a lot of people suffered losses rather than of having gains. But I think this is not the reason why we lost our faith and trust, it soon the market will bounce back that's should we have to put in our mind...

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You can only make so many gains trading before you will end up losing. There isn't any exchange which you can make unlimited trades. They only have so much Fiat available to play with. In terms of exponential, well that's just completely unrealistic dot-dot-dot because you can expect to always profit, let alone make exponential gains.

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Quote from: openagain on September 26, 2019, 11:36:57 PM

I've been trading (?) cryptocurrencies for a little over 5 years and have always had little to no success even doubling my money. I know I know, it's not supposed to be easy to double your money.
I work in finance so I understand that a 20% annualized gain is already a ridiculous amount.

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Does anyone else have any ideas to share or methods that consistently gives them good gains?

The first question that comes to my mind is how much money have you earn on average on each year since you have been trading cryptocurrencies? I ask this because even if your profits are small then you are in the correct path and the only thing that you need to do is to improve your system, however if you have been losing money during those five years then the only thing that I can say to you is to stop trading, because anyone that has been losing money for that long in this market doesn't really know what he's doing.

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Quote from: openagain on September 26, 2019, 11:36:57 PM

I've been trading (?) cryptocurrencies for a little over 5 years and have always had little to no success even doubling my money. I know I know, it's not supposed to be easy to double your money.
I work in finance so I understand that a 20% annualized gain is already a ridiculous amount.

I have however seen players doubling, tripling, 10xing their money through a variety of ways of which I can list here:

-Bitmex, Deribit etc. Perpetual Futures leveraged trading (1-100 x leverage - SUPER HIGH RISK)
-ICO/IEO trading (4-5 returns, MEDIUM RISK)
-Spot Trading (BTC/USD, MEDIUM RISK)
-Deribit Options (MEDIUM RISK)
-Cross Exchange Arbs/DEX Arbing (Buying alts on Dex before exchange launching on Binance - requires insider information)
-Gambling Games (Dice, etc.)

Does anyone else have any ideas to share or methods that consistently gives them good gains?

Quote from: th3nolo on September 28, 2019, 12:31:21 AM

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Ok, if you work on finance you should know not every portfolio is able to take the risk of those guys who doubled even tripled their money.

That's something should be obvious, so if you have a big portfolio of more +2M 20% it's an exceptional performance "yearly".

something I disagree with you is IEO and ICOS, these are horrible business models and are not worth investing, I know that many of the early investors on the IEOS of the binance lauchpad gave unexpected profits to those ones with the balls to take the risk, but is worth the risk?

also after the first ICO, bittorrent if I'm not wrong they gave limits on the invest size, "to be fair with anyone", So a big portfolio invested on an IEO is not something smart, SPOT and low leverage trading should be your path since you have said you are a guy that has work in the environment of the financial services.

Arbitrage could.. be other of the mediums to make money if made right, with a Quantitive model and a bot with great infrastructure, Servers, Ping,...

and Gambling?

that sounds dumb, you know the house win over time!!, so stop trying to impersonate someone who really works into the financial services industry.

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Quote from: openagain on September 26, 2019, 11:36:57 PM

Does anyone else have any ideas to share or methods that consistently gives them good gains?

No offense but in 5 years dealing in crypto, at least you should learn something out of it. You are already in the industry for quite a long time and witnessed several times the ups and downs that happen in bitcoin price.

I can't think of any ideas that might help you since I believed you already know it. You have your strategies but the problem is, you can't execute it properly in actual. Well, try to analyze what's wrong on the way. On what actions did you go wrong?

Why not try your skills outside crypto and you might be a success there? But it's not mean, you will leave crypto for good. All you need to do now is to purchase BTC's if you have some spare funds and HODL and consider it as a loss.

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Quote from: jhenfelipe on September 27, 2019, 05:32:29 AM

Reminder: Someone might take advantage of this, so if anyone claims to have an idea or working method, and will give it to you in exchange of money or anything, don't trust him. There's no guaranteed method to have consistent gains.

Spot on. It can't be stressed enough that when there would really be a method people could make a lot of profit with, the 'inventor' of that method would NEVER disclose it. Period.

If you think logically, it makes no sense for someone to sell a method guaranteeing x % of profit while only asking for $20 or any other insignificant amount of money. How can't they earn that $20 themselves if it was so profitable?

Just by asking yourself some simple questions (like how does it work, how can they guarantee profits, why are they selling it instead of using it themselves, etc), you can easily look through any of these scummy practices.

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I have seen so many people brag about their prized winning method of playing dice, but they all ended up losing every penny they put into it and some even more. It's completely and utterly retarded that there are still people thinking that you can beat the house and generate consistent profits on a weekly or monthly basis. Luck isn't everlasting. It runs out and so will your balance when you don't wake up.

As for IEO "trading" (I assume you refer to buying into the initial distribution stage and to sell when it becomes tradable?), that's what I consider high risk too because you're investing in blatant scams or the idea of someone nicely presented to you through a website and whitepaper. It costs them $500-$1000 to get all that done. Don't fall for these scams. It's called gambling since you either win or lose.

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Gambling games? There's a lot of risk involved there mate, just saying.

As for the other exchanges you mentioned, of course you can make money but the thing is, every trader is different, specially with their appetite to risk and their capital at hand. So other became more successful, but majority, the casuals and the average Joe keeps struggling. So instead of asking for financial advises, why don't you plan ahead and don't trust those so called experts, I'm sure they won't share any of their secrets.

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You have mentioned the list of platforms with a different set of features. For gain one need to have the skills to utilise the features and apply the strategy according and book profit. Leverage is also called double edge sword there is a reason why they call it so. If the features are used without the knowledge there can be disaster.

Also, if people are saying they booked X% of profit do not trust without any proof.

To be a Successful trader you need analysis, Strategy and a thrust to keep learning.

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Where did you see them?

Let's say those people you saw somewhere who double, triple or get 10x of their capital (as they say) really earn that, it doesn't mean they didn't lose anything. Trading, it's inconsistent, we don't get the same results everyday. Continue learning through experience and try different strategy/techinques when trading.

Reminder: Someone might take advantage of this, so if anyone claims to have an idea or working method, and will give it to you in exchange of money or anything, don't trust him. There's no guaranteed method to have consistent gains.

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Quote from: openagain on September 26, 2019, 11:36:57 PM

Does anyone else have any ideas to share or methods that consistently gives them good gains?

It is like donating a goose laying golden eggs

If anyone had such a strategy, they would keep their mouth shut about it. And they definitely wouldn't be bragging about their profits. That essentially answers your question. People who claim that they were able to multiply their investments like 10-100x are either massively exaggerating their real successes or they were just extremely lucky to first get in on time and then get out just in time

The bottom line is, take anything that you hear about someone earning insane amounts of dough with a bag of salt as reality may be not as rosy as it is being described

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Quote from: openagain on September 26, 2019, 11:36:57 PM

I've been trading (?) cryptocurrencies for a little over 5 years and have always had little to no success even doubling my money. I know I know, it's not supposed to be easy to double your money.
I work in finance so I understand that a 20% annualized gain is already a ridiculous amount.

I have however seen players doubling, tripling, 10xing their money through a variety of ways of which I can list here:

-Bitmex, Deribit etc. Perpetual Futures leveraged trading (1-100 x leverage - SUPER HIGH RISK)
-ICO/IEO trading (4-5 returns, MEDIUM RISK)
-Spot Trading (BTC/USD, MEDIUM RISK)
-Deribit Options (MEDIUM RISK)
-Cross Exchange Arbs/DEX Arbing (Buying alts on Dex before exchange launching on Binance - requires insider information)
-Gambling Games (Dice, etc.)

Does anyone else have any ideas to share or methods that consistently gives them good gains?

You need to understand that a lot of the so-called crypto traders on twitter and in the general community fake their gains so they can get more followers and attention. Less than 1% of the traders are profitable, you need to understand this.

And to be able to make a decent amount of money arbitraging you need cutting-edge bots and a lot of funds to make it worthwhile. Gambling is definitely not a consistent method to make money unless you are the house of course.

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You say that you have been trading crypto for years now and didn't have the success that you should have after that many years. Did you check your trading strategy though? Perhaps you may have miss out one important thing in the past that lead you to not make more money assuming that you have that much experience already?

I urge you to write down your trading strategy and see where your gaps are and then make some adjustments and see how it goes.

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Ooh the ICO trend that was there back in 2017. How can i forget it?

At one point i made $21,000 out of $500 Cheesy

However, i think ICOs are now dead. I advise people to keep away from them as there are so many scams now.

The best way to make real money right now is through trading or hodling top known and solid cryptos.
Personal i took it upon myself to do margin trading. Very exciting. Maximum leverage i do is 15% and for example i have been able to double my portifio this past week when bitcoin started making that down trend where i am supposed to be making loses Cheesy

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Why are people obsessed with doubling and tripling their money?If you make a consistent 20% profit,you can double your money in 4 months.This is the so called "rule 72".If you want to double your money immediately,just forget about trading and go gamble(you will lose everything eventually).
ICO trading and 4-5times return?Is it 2017 again?I thought that ICOs are dead.

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I guess you have much experience in trading since you say you've been trading for over 5 years. I prefer to trade in the Binance than the other list or means, and I prefer to choose a centralized exchange. Everything you say has a risk, and you should understand that. No matter what you want, the risk will always be there. But you can minimize the risk by analyzing before you decide to buy and it's not easy. But as you have experience for over 5 years, I think that you can analyze with well than the other so I think you can make a profit from trading. Don't think about doubling, tripling or else but try to make a stable profit means, you can always make a profit in every time you trade.

If you get to lose, that is normal because every trader will have the same experience. But the difference is you can back to make a profit and recover the losses. You have skills in trading, but you still need to learn more about trading because mastering trading will not enough in one night or one year. We need to learn more and more to know what to do to get the profit.

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I would say traditional trading of bitcoin to altcoin and vice versa can be more profitable than other high risky methods,from this we can even make 3-5% everyday which makes the annual profit more than you are looking for.Only issue is we cannot make profits from crypto trading in successive streaks for very long term.

So that you can simply choose to hold your bitcoin than trading which may not increase the total btc amount but it will be huge profitable against the fiat pairs.

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You can have good and huge gains on any platform you mentioned.
It will just matter on how you do it, how will you manage your funds like Risk Management, how much are you willing to risk for the trade ? How much you are willing to lose in gambling?

Even you will trade on the non-leveraged exchange, you can also earn profits since the risk is lesser there compare on exchange that has leverage.
Consistently gives good gains is difficult nowadays, especially if you want to those things you mentioned, but if you can manage it and control it, you can do it. Just learn those things first before entering.

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I've been trading (?) cryptocurrencies for a little over 5 years and have always had little to no success even doubling my money. I know I know, it's not supposed to be easy to double your money.
I work in finance so I understand that a 20% annualized gain is already a ridiculous amount.

I have however seen players doubling, tripling, 10xing their money through a variety of ways of which I can list here:

-Bitmex, Deribit etc. Perpetual Futures leveraged trading (1-100 x leverage - SUPER HIGH RISK)
-ICO/IEO trading (4-5 returns, MEDIUM RISK)
-Spot Trading (BTC/USD, MEDIUM RISK)
-Deribit Options (MEDIUM RISK)
-Cross Exchange Arbs/DEX Arbing (Buying alts on Dex before exchange launching on Binance - requires insider information)
-Gambling Games (Dice, etc.)

Does anyone else have any ideas to share or methods that consistently gives them good gains?

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