Malaysian Plane 'Shot Down With 295 On Board' in UKRAINE - page 2.

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Quote from: Littleshop on July 17, 2014, 03:50:58 PM

Quote from: Nemo1024 on July 17, 2014, 03:45:55 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on July 17, 2014, 03:39:26 PM

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/russian-separatist-leader-claimed-responsibility-for-downing-mh17/

Watching direct news from Donetsk. They deny any responsibility and they maintain that they don't have weaponry to reach above 4000m.

One of the versions is that the plane should have fallen on Russian territory, so as to fully blame Russia.

A Spanish flight controller, who works in Kiev, twitted that before the crash, he saw on the radar two Ukrainian jets shadowing the airliner.

Donetsk' leader, Boroday, said that the freedom fighters agree to a 2-day seize-fire in military activities to clean after the disaster.

All lies. The Russian seps claimed responsibility for it, they thought it was an an-26 now they are in full cover up mode.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fvk.com%2Fwall-57424472_7256

So, the pro-russian "terrorists", which now are in "full cover up mode", almost killed Putin.

Conclusion: Putin is not responsible for the "terrorists" in the eastern Ukraine.

So, then all sanctions etc can be withdrawn.

Perfect.

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Quote from: Littleshop on July 17, 2014, 03:50:58 PM

All lies. The Russian seps claimed responsibility for it, they thought it was an an-26 now they are in full cover up mode.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fvk.com%2Fwall-57424472_7256

They never did. Besides, to shoot down a plane at 10000km, you need to see it. The resistance don't have Buks. Capturing a Buk is not enough to use it - you need a thorough education on its usage.

...The Spanish controller also reported that the Ukrainian military shot down the plane, though it is still not clear who gave the order
http://rusvesna.su/news/1405625238

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Quote from: Nemo1024 on July 17, 2014, 03:45:55 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on July 17, 2014, 03:39:26 PM

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/russian-separatist-leader-claimed-responsibility-for-downing-mh17/

Watching direct news from Donetsk. They deny any responsibility and they maintain that they don't have weaponry to reach above 4000m.

One of the versions is that the plane should have fallen on Russian territory, so as to fully blame Russia.

A Spanish flight controller, who works in Kiev, twitted that before the crash, he saw on the radar two Ukrainian jets shadowing the airliner.

Donetsk' leader, Boroday, said that the freedom fighters agree to a 2-day seize-fire in military activities to clean after the disaster.

All lies. The Russian seps claimed responsibility for it, they thought it was an an-26 now they are in full cover up mode.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fvk.com%2Fwall-57424472_7256

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A Spanish flight controller, who works in Kiev, twitted that before the crash, he saw on the radar two Ukrainian jets shadowing the airliner.
http://rusvesna.su/news/1405625238

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Un contrôleur aerien espagnol basé à Kiev indique que l'avion était escorté par 2 avions de chasse ukrainien avant de disparaitre @spainbuca
✈ Carlos. ‏@spainbuca
El avión B 777 voló escoltado por 2 cazas de ukraine hasta minutos antes, de desaparecer de los radares,
9:48 - 17 июля 2014 г.
El avión B 777 voló escoltado por 2 cazas de ukraine hasta minutos antes, de desaparecer de los radares,
✈ Carlos. ‏@spainbuca
Sí las autoridades de kiev, quieren decir la verdad, esta recogido 2 cazas volaron muy cerca minutos antes , no lo derribo un caza
9:54 - 17 июля 2014 г.

Kiev deployed powerful surface-to-air missile systems to E. Ukraine ahead of the Malaysian plane crash – reports
http://rt.com/news/173636-buk-malaysian-plane-crash/

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Quote from: BCEmporium on July 17, 2014, 03:39:04 PM

If Putin die of natural causes, then the next president can be more EU-friendly... or not.
If Putin gets murdered by Ukrainians that would mean a war, and Ukraine can't stand a war with Russia. That would be suicide!

With their leader gone you really think there would be a war, especially if EU promises Russia money and land & Ukraine claims its an accident? The EU would supposedly be nice to Russia to compensate it, perhaps even giving Russia claim to some of Ukraine, in the meantime making Russia more dependent on Europe just as their original goal was for Ukraine.

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Quote from: Wilikon on July 17, 2014, 03:39:26 PM

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/russian-separatist-leader-claimed-responsibility-for-downing-mh17/

Watching direct news from Donetsk. They deny any responsibility and they maintain that they don't have weaponry to reach above 4000m.

One of the versions is that the plane should have fallen on Russian territory, so as to fully blame Russia.

Donetsk' leader, Boroday, said that the freedom fighters agree to a 2-day seize-fire in military activities to clean after the disaster.

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Quote from: niothor on July 17, 2014, 03:10:57 PM

Common...there was a rocket fired at that plane.

With no proofs.

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If they wouldve killed Putin they could succesfully blow up London or New York With a nuke and blame Russia. Now? No, probably not.

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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/russian-separatist-leader-claimed-responsibility-for-downing-mh17/

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/photo-pro-russian-buk-missile-system-under-camo-on-street-in-ukraine/

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/horrific-scenes-from-mh17-crash-site-photos/

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If Putin die of natural causes, then the next president can be more EU-friendly... or not.
If Putin gets murdered by Ukrainians that would mean a war, and Ukraine can't stand a war with Russia. That would be suicide!

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Quote from: BCEmporium on July 17, 2014, 03:32:19 PM

But what would Ukraine get by killing Putin?! A full-scale war with Russia?! Doesn't make much sense...

They get to say that Putin is dead. If putin died then Russia would likely become much more euro-integrated. Just saying.

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295 were on board.

The altitude was 10000 meters.

"Buk" of Ukrainian forces was transferred to that area a few days ago.

The black boxes will be transferred to the international authorities.

Ukraine didn't close the airspace, even though most of the ground infrastructure is destroyed.

A few hours before the plane was shot down, Ukrainian MSM published an article saying as if the freedom fighters have Buk.

Today's flight path of the Malaysian flight was especially changed today by the Ukrainians.

Witnesses saw a fighter jet in the area.

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But what would Ukraine get by killing Putin?! A full-scale war with Russia?! Doesn't make much sense...

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You smart brains should help me solve this shit in the 2277 thread instead. You all know that is where we need to look for a look into the future of the coming days.. shits just about to blow up.

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If they really tried to hit Putin's plane, they're in a giant pile of shit right now.

It can't be the rebles, too high. So its either Russia throwing up a false flag, or its Ukraine, actually trying to hit Putin's plane.

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Unless it was a close by jet fighter, people from ground can't see the plane colors in the radar.

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President Putin's plane might have been the target for Ukrainian missile - sources
http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/

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“I can say that Putin’s plane and the Malaysian Boeing intersected at the same point and the same echelon. That was close to Warsaw on 330-m echelon at the height of 10,100 meters. The presidential jet was there at 16:21 Moscow time and the Malaysian aircraft - 15:44 Moscow time,” a source told the news agency on condition of anonymity.

"The contours of the aircrafts are similar, linear dimensions are also very similar, as for the coloring, at a quite remote distance they are almost identical", the source added.

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Quote from: 247crypto on July 17, 2014, 03:06:31 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on July 17, 2014, 12:05:01 PM

http://news.sky.com/story/1302864/malaysian-plane-shot-down-with-295-on-board

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Sky News correspondent Mark White, citing aviation sources, said the aircraft appeared to have been flying through a block of airspace deemed "unsuitable for civilian aircraft".
Flight MH17 was heading to Kuala Lumpur. Pic: Andreas Fietz

"It doesn't mean aircraft are banned from flying into that airspace but pilots are certainly advised not to," he said.

"It raises questions about why the plane was in an area it had been advised not to fly through.

"Did it stray into that area by accident or did the pilot decide it was a risk worth taking, perhaps as a fuel saving measure?"

A suicide attempt?

Common...there was a rocket fired at that plane.
If you want to commit suicide you don't stay on the sidewalk and wait for a truck to lose control and hit you.

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Quote from: Wilikon on July 17, 2014, 12:05:01 PM

http://news.sky.com/story/1302864/malaysian-plane-shot-down-with-295-on-board

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Sky News correspondent Mark White, citing aviation sources, said the aircraft appeared to have been flying through a block of airspace deemed "unsuitable for civilian aircraft".
Flight MH17 was heading to Kuala Lumpur. Pic: Andreas Fietz

"It doesn't mean aircraft are banned from flying into that airspace but pilots are certainly advised not to," he said.

"It raises questions about why the plane was in an area it had been advised not to fly through.

"Did it stray into that area by accident or did the pilot decide it was a risk worth taking, perhaps as a fuel saving measure?"

A suicide attempt?

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Quote from: Wilikon on July 17, 2014, 12:16:34 PM

We need to wait to learn who did it.

I doubt we will have a clear answer for this.

But why would the Ukrainians do this?
This is no in their favor no matter how you look at it?

Why would the Russians do this? Most people would sure look at them as they did this as a reason for a military intervention.
Also nato won't take this kind of bait.

The rebels are out of the question if the plane was flying at high attitude.

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