Malboroza. . . When are you removing this negative rating on my profile?

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I connected Kolder, grim07 and Omegasun back in 2016:

Quote from: Timelord2067 on November 05, 2016, 09:35:17 PM

Accounts connected: Omegasun -2: -1 / +0, Kolder, grim07 -2: -1 / +0,

Proof:

Omegasun uses the twitter @innieh07 in this locked thread:

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grim07 then uses the same twitter @innieh07 here:

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Kolder is then using the twitter @innieh07:

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Omegasun answered a question in Kolder's lending service as thought they were two separate users:

The OP Dank14's other alt Goms started a near identical thread to this in August 2018

Quote from: Goms on September 07, 2019, 08:52:50 PM

Hello,
I Goms will like to have the negative trust on my account removed as I've not posted for a long, long time, I believe this issue should be sorted out by now.

I actually didn't cheat anyone, only participated in signature campaigns
You can check my posts, I've never traded on this website or transacted in anyway with anyone on this forum.
I only participated in signature campaigns.
I've not taken part in any campaign in more than a year so kindly revisit this issue.
Thanks.

Quote from: JollyGood on June 27, 2023, 04:15:01 AM

The question arises, why would the OP start this thread and draw attention on to himself? If marlboroza had given the negative tag and he is no longer using the forum it means there is nothing he can do about it. As a result of him bringing attention to himself he has received two more negative tags.

I have added another four names to that list and then tagged the OP with negative trust. As soon as I have ample time I will tag all of the accounts:

Dank14, grim007, grim07, Omegasun, Mintcondition, Casabrandy, IKZIR31, pratamaPR31, Gastotade, Armstand, Lumada, Blamsud, vasrasus, Wandika, Palodar, Kolder, PhilPrime, Bitcoin Market, xWill, Dahhi, Gaugh, Goms, Daisy14, BlockEye, Gahs, Dinki, Goms, Daisy14

Quote from: marlboroza on June 07, 2018, 05:35:21 PM

Accounts connected: :

grim007 -16: -4 / +0
Mintcondition -13: -4 / +3
Casabrandy -4: -2 / +0
IKZIR31 -4: -2 / +0
pratamaPR -4: -2 / +0
Gastotade 0: -0 / +0
Armstand 0: -0/ +0
Lumada 0: -0/ +0
Blamsud 0: -0/ +0
vasrasus 0: -0/ +0
Wandika 0: -0/ +0
Palodar -2: -1 / +0
Kolder 1: -1 / +2
PhilPrime -8: -3 / +0
BlockEye, 41: -0 / +7

If you look at just about any of the alts negative trust feedback those UID's have identical or near identical negatives from numerous users. Only marlboroza has been targeted by the the OP this time around.

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grim007
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"Yesterday" the OP will have targeted me in their new thread, same theme. "Tomorrow", the OP will target you. Rinse and repeat.

@DaveF I *think* there's a handful of UID's missing from your ~ list in @JollyGood 's recent thread.

Not sure why I removed my distrust of these users, https://loyce.club/trust/2019-02-25_Mon_21.39h/662310.html

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Trust list for: Kolder (0 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2019-02-25_Mon_21.39h)
Back to index

Kolder Trusts:
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Kolder Distrusts:
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Kolder is Trusted by:
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~Kolder is Distrusted by:

Removed:
~~1. Timelord2067 (151 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)~~[/s]

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

But back on they go.

@LoyceV - are you still of the opinion it is okay for alts to DT distrust others (i.e. the same user being distrust by two or more alts)?

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This has been a trend recently. If memory serves correct there were around 3-4 cases within the last say 6 weeks where the OP created a thread for a particular reason complaining about a neutral/negative tag but in the end they dug themselves in to a hole and did not stop digging.

Some account farmers make the mistake of being over-confident therefore they have threads questioning their feedbacks and within a short time that becomes their error as their associated accounts begin to be listed. They bring attention to themselves without realising the impact it will have on their farming activities.

Quote from: DaveF on June 28, 2023, 05:46:29 AM

And in the end the funny part is that the only thing this thread has done so for for the OP and the associated accounts is get them more negative feedback and removal from trust lists.

As the saying goes, when you are in a hole stop digging.

So a single negative from someone who has not been active for years that a lot of people may have ignored is now a major thing since there are so many more people looking and posting about it.

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And in the end the funny part is that the only thing this thread has done so for for the OP and the associated accounts is get them more negative feedback and removal from trust lists.

As the saying goes, when you are in a hole stop digging.

So a single negative from someone who has not been active for years that a lot of people may have ignored is now a major thing since there are so many more people looking and posting about it.

-Dave

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Positioning yourself in the right place will be done by anyone while in the suspect's position.

Why don't you just solve your problem when Marlboroza sticks your ass in red ink.
Why don't you defend yourself with all the accusations thrown at you.
Why are you only now asking for justice.

I found references with strong evidence in your Trust Summary that made DT members do their job well. I suspect this account has changed ownership, after a long period of inactivity you immediately reset the password.

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The question arises, why would the OP start this thread and draw attention on to himself? If marlboroza had given the negative tag and he is no longer using the forum it means there is nothing he can do about it. As a result of him bringing attention to himself he has received two more negative tags.

I have added another four names to that list and then tagged the OP with negative trust. As soon as I have ample time I will tag all of the accounts:

Dank14, grim007, grim07, Omegasun, Mintcondition, Casabrandy, IKZIR31, pratamaPR31, Gastotade, Armstand, Lumada, Blamsud, vasrasus, Wandika, Palodar, Kolder, PhilPrime, Bitcoin Market, xWill, Dahhi, Gaugh, Goms, Daisy14, BlockEye, Gahs, Dinki, Goms, Daisy14

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 09, 2023, 11:36:59 PM

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Why don't you check my posts from my other accounts to see if you can find anything criminal?

YOSHIE already explained it to you a few years ago. You will find everything you want to know in the related threads.

Quote from: YOSHIE on September 08, 2019, 04:36:29 AM

Reference Account is involved in all kind of shady activities(trading accounts, trading hacked accounts, abusing bounties with alt accounts, leaving positive trust between alt accounts, farming trust)
Accounts connected: grim007, grim07, Omegasun, Mintcondition, Casabrandy, IKZIR31, pratamaPR31, Gastotade, Armstand, Lumada, Blamsud, vasrasus, Wandika, Palodar, Kolder, PhilPrime, Bitcoin Market, xWill, Dahhi, Gaugh, Goms, Daisy14, BlockEye. Read whole thread in reference.

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 10, 2023, 03:32:31 AM

Everybody knows that PayPal doesn't work in all countries. . .
So there is nothing mysterious about converting PayPal funds to crypto.

Do note that I complained bitterly about the malboroza issue in 2016. . . but that thread is no longer in the archives.
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Perhaps you mean 2019? I couldn't see any possible way you can complain bitterly in 2016 about the issue raised by Malboroza in 2019? And could it be, perhaps, you're referring to your other connected account, Goms and you just forgot which account you use to raise the complain due to the pile of accounts you own, and assuming you made the complain by this account? Goms did made a complaint, but I can't find any complaint made by this account, although everything should be archived by 2019, either by Loyce's archiver or Ninjastic's

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 10, 2023, 03:32:31 AM

Most people know that PayPal doesn't work in all countries. . .
So there is nothing mysterious about converting PayPal funds to crypto.

Easy solution: don't violate Paypal's terms.

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Everybody knows that PayPal doesn't work in all countries. . .
So there is nothing mysterious about converting PayPal funds to crypto.

Do note that I complained bitterly about the malboroza issue in 2016. . . but that thread is no longer in the archives.

Quote from: LoyceV on June 10, 2023, 03:21:38 AM

I checked a few of the accounts that are alts according to marlboroza. . .

I'm glad you checked.
And even YOU could not point to something criminal in what you saw.

Quote from: LoyceV on June 10, 2023, 03:21:38 AM

Easy solution: don't violate Paypal's terms.

PayPal did not say that I violated their terms.

Since YOU have become a solution provider:
Why don't YOU contact PayPal and instruct them to start working in ALL countries?

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 08, 2023, 01:38:09 PM

I had more than one account
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I stopped posting on this forum.

I checked a few of the accounts that are alts according to marlboroza, and they all stopped posting after he tagged them. I also checked some of the posts made by those accounts, and they won't be missed. You were basically pissing all over the forum to earn money. I wouldn't even be surprised if you have more accounts and continued spamming with them all those years.

Quote from: marlboroza on June 28, 2018, 04:22:28 AM

I did protest about it back in 2016, it's a pity my thread may no longer be in the archives.

Marlboroza's feedback is from 2019. I'm guessing your thread didn't disappear on it's own, so look it up.

Quote from: Dank14 on June 09, 2023, 10:45:03 AM

Fast forward to 2023, I have some PayPal funds I wish to convert to crypto.

Quote from: Dank14 on June 09, 2023, 12:59:19 PM

I don't know which escrow to use, can you direct me?

It's not possible to escrow Paypal funds securely. If you send funds from a stolen Paypal account, the escrow loses their money and that can be months later. Send your Paypal funds to your bank, and buy Bitcoin on an exchange. But I'm guessing you have a reason you don't want those funds tied to your real name.

I trust marlboroza's judgement, and I won't exclude him, not even if he asks for it.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on June 09, 2023, 03:38:01 PM

Oh I am sure he is going to cry a long time because you gave him negative feedback Roll Eyes

With this kind of behavior and attracting attention you can only get a few more red colored postcards on your profile for acting like this and abusing trust system.
But hey, do whatever you want, it's your profile.

I want to point out to you that it's not about Malboroza crying.

No, not at all.

It's about showing Malboroza a little bit of gratitude for
"keeping the forum safe"

Since he took the time to check around. . . a little bit of gratitude should help him check better.

So let the checking continue. . . and let the gratitude flow in.

Isn't that sweet?

Quote from: logfiles on June 09, 2023, 06:51:18 PM

But there is a whole thread or two about the links between your different accounts, including Dank14. Why would you say that he's lying because the negative tags he left on the account profiles are accurate?

You don't give people red tags just because they have multiple accounts.

Multiple accounts isn't against forum rules.

Check yourself to see.

Quote from: FatFork on June 09, 2023, 03:51:41 PM

So, you're suggesting that we should solely focus on the posts from the account you're currently using and completely disregard any posts from other linked accounts? I'm curious, what's the reasoning behind this request? Why should we ignore the actions from those other accounts?

Why don't you check my posts from my other accounts to see if you can find anything criminal?

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But there is a whole thread or two about the links between your different accounts, including Dank14. Why would you say that he's lying because the negative tags he left on the account profiles are accurate?

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Quote from: FatFork on June 09, 2023, 11:58:10 AM

So, what exactly did marlboroza lie about regarding the feedback they left on your profile? From what I can see, the feedback appears to be factually accurate and supported by evidence.

Malboroza's lies include:

1) I sell accounts
2) I give myself trust ratings
3) I can't be trusted
4) I scam people

No, that's not what the trust feedback on your profile states. Allow me to quote it for you:

Quote from: marlboroza on June 28, 2018, 04:22:28 AM

Malboroza came up with that ALL by himself. There's no single one of my previous chats that talks about selling accounts or cheating someone.

You can go through my previous posts to see if you will see anything that involves selling accounts or cheating someone.

So, you're suggesting that we should solely focus on the posts from the account you're currently using and completely disregard any posts from other linked accounts? I'm curious, what's the reasoning behind this request? Why should we ignore the actions from those other accounts?

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 08, 2023, 02:36:28 PM

In that case, I will give Marlboroza a negative trust as well. . . One good turn deserves another.

Oh I am sure he is going to cry a long time because you gave him negative feedback Roll Eyes

With this kind of behavior and attracting attention you can only get a few more red colored postcards on your profile for acting like this and abusing trust system.
But hey, do whatever you want, it's your profile.

Quote from: logfiles on June 08, 2023, 06:45:25 PM

This thread contains hard evidence about the accounts' connection to a big account, farm - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-didnt-cheat-anyone-5182721 especially Veleor's investigation.
What do you say about this?

This looks to me like a bunch of farmed account, and OP password changed multiple times since 2019, probably account changed hands.

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Quote from: holydarkness on June 09, 2023, 12:36:42 PM

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The best OP can hope is for the DT members to distrust Malboroza. Enough distrust will kick him from DT and thus will make the -1 score "invisible" from OP's default profile. But given the multiple posts made by several users here on his findings and the reason behind the feedback, I can't see why we should start ~malboroza.
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Well, I'm not a DT1 but I'm one of those who added marlboroza to my trust list years ago. And I see no reason to remove him. But I see that Dank14 misuses trust system at the moment so I distrusted him. He is saying that marlboroza was wrong but gives no arguments, only agressively blames the one who is not here and who has no option of response.

Insistence in this case is not something what will work. Arguments showing multiple mistakes is what should be provided. And I suppose there are no arguments.

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Okay, thanks for the heads-up.

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 09, 2023, 12:59:19 PM

Quote from: holydarkness on June 09, 2023, 12:36:42 PM

OP, if what you said is true that you're only looking to have a deal with someone and you think that malboroza's tag will hinder you from a successful deal, use hugeblack's and dimonstration's advise to use an escrow. It'll "bypass" the cautiousness raised by your counterparty due to the negative tag you have.

I don't know which escrow to use, can you direct me?
It's been a long while since I've been here.

I'll send you a DM.

No need to send me a DM. There are a lot of escrow service on the forum. This thread is recently updated with highest trust rating escrow provider, this one is rather old, but not necessarily obsolete, and can still be used as a reference.

If I'm not mistaken --and that's me being polite when I tried to say, "I know he does, but I am not sure he'll accept business with you or not"-- GazetaBitcoin also begin to provide escrow service and currently doing it for free.

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Quote from: holydarkness on June 09, 2023, 12:36:42 PM

OP, if what you said is true that you're only looking to have a deal with someone and you think that malboroza's tag will hinder you from a successful deal, use hugeblack's and dimonstration's advise to use an escrow. It'll "bypass" the cautiousness raised by your counterparty due to the negative tag you have.

I don't know which escrow to use, can you direct me?
It's been a long while since I've been here.

Quote from: FatFork on June 09, 2023, 11:58:10 AM

So, what exactly did marlboroza lie about regarding the feedback they left on your profile? From what I can see, the feedback appears to be factually accurate and supported by evidence.

Malboroza's lies include:

1) I sell accounts
2) I give myself trust ratings
3) I can't be trusted
4) I scam people

Malboroza came up with that ALL by himself. There's no single one of my previous chats that talks about selling accounts or cheating someone.

You can go through my previous posts to see if you will see anything that involves selling accounts or cheating someone.

Lying is not a good habit even if you are legendary. . .

That's why so many people called Malboroza a CHEAT!

Check my profile, apart from Malboroza, who else called me a CHEAT?!

Who else?

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on June 09, 2023, 12:04:41 AM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on June 08, 2023, 07:36:47 PM

While that's a valid question, even if OP successfully defends himself, there's still the issue of marlboroza not being active. I guess someone on DT could leave a counter-feedback, but OP really ought to have spoken up when the accusation was made.

I don't think counter-feedback is still valid with the current trust system, other user can leave a neutral feedback, but still it doesn't clean off the negative feedback.
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Yes, it doesn't. IIRC the old trust system works like the sum of trusts given to an account, e.g.: someone with three positive and two negative "trust" will shows +1/0/-0, while someone with three positive and three negative will show +0/0/-0. The system today works by showing the sum of each feedback, e.g.: someone with five positive and two negative will shows +5/0/-2 instead of +3/0/-0. So the counter-feedback which on the "old world" can be and were used by DT members to negate an arguably invalid negative trust, it doesn't work on this new system.

The best OP can hope is for the DT members to distrust Malboroza. Enough distrust will kick him from DT and thus will make the -1 score "invisible" from OP's default profile. But given the multiple posts made by several users here on his findings and the reason behind the feedback, I can't see why we should start ~malboroza.

OP, if what you said is true that you're only looking to have a deal with someone and you think that malboroza's tag will hinder you from a successful deal, use hugeblack's and dimonstration's advise to use an escrow. It'll "bypass" the cautiousness raised by your counterparty due to the negative tag you have.

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 09, 2023, 11:24:01 AM

Please check malboroza's trust profile to see the long list of people who refer to him as a CHEAT!

Many of us here place a great deal of trust in malboroza's feedback, which is why he still remains on the DT member list, despite his inactivity on the forum. The feedback you mentioned on his profile, including the one you left in retaliation, falls under the category of Untrusted feedback and does not contribute to his overall trust score.

So, what exactly did marlboroza lie about regarding the feedback they left on your profile? From what I can see, the feedback appears to be factually accurate and supported by evidence.

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 09, 2023, 11:24:01 AM

Please check malboroza's trust profile to see the long list of people who refer to him as a CHEAT!

Those trust feedback is just a retaliation for his aggressive way on dealing with the cheater. You can notice that most of that user already have a negative feedback from him. It’s normal in the forum for an active scam buster to receive retaliatory feedback since trust system here is not moderated. All of them is not a DT so their feedback doesn’t affect his trust score.

Only DT feedback matters most here because that’s the only time your trust score will be affected and the rest will be consider as untrusted feedback that is hidden unless you show it manually.

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Please check malboroza's trust profile to see the long list of people who refer to him as a CHEAT!

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What gives Malboroza the right to think he can just throw lies at people — it all boils down to PRIDE, SELF-RIGHTEOUS attitude.

The user who put him in their trust list. Malboroza is very reputable forum user here because he busted a lot of scammers and cheaters. He has the right to tag you because of the solid connection involving you to multiple account that cheat bounty campaigns.

Also, He is now long active so the tag will stay there forever until he came back and removes it or all the user that put him on their trust list will remove him or distrust him which is not gonna happened because he leave the forum with same reputation.

You can still use the marketplace by using an escrow to your deals.

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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on June 09, 2023, 01:01:43 AM

Forum members should also know how dirty you can be. . . .

Guy(Learn Bitcoin), keep learning all you can about BTC and don't conclude on what you know nothing about.
You will appear more gracious.

Quote from: logfiles on June 08, 2023, 06:45:25 PM

1. Why didn't you come out to defend yourself against the accusations and feedback that were made against your account at that time?

I did protest about it back in 2016, it's a pity my thread may no longer be in the archives.
I repeatedly stated that
1) There was nothing like me selling accounts
2) I didn't give myself trust ratings — this should be obvious for everyone to see.

He didn't remove it. . .
And I didn't know about retaliatory feedback then.

But I got busy with life, became occupied with other needs and left the forum for some years thinking the rating will fade off.

Fast forward to 2023, I have some PayPal funds I wish to convert to crypto.
Then I remembered bitcointalk.org and thought it will be a good place to find a good crypto seller but guess what?
I see this "-1" staring at me.

That really got me pissed.

Which is why I started this thread again after so many years.

I learnt a lot about crypto from this forum. . . Never did ONE trade before.

Now that I really need to do a trade, I'm finding it difficult because of someone's arrogance.

What gives Malboroza the right to think he can just throw lies at people — it all boils down to PRIDE, SELF-RIGHTEOUS attitude.

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 08, 2023, 01:38:09 PM

Hey guys,

Way back in 2016, some guy named "Malboroza" added a "-1" rating to my profile JUST because I had more than one account — I didn't enter into ANY trade neither did I scam anyone.

I stopped posting on this forum. . . When I checked back in 2020, the "-1" was still there!

This is 2023. . . The "-1" is still there!!
2016 — 2023!

Is this fair?!

Who exactly did I scam? . . . I'm asking all the moderators to identify who I scammed. . . Because this is getting really extreme Huh

I can't believe you're still on this right from 2016 to date, this account would have mean so much to you really, but if i may ask you, that have you tried to contact him through PM over the years, secondly if you have used that your alts account for scam, spamming or any related illicit activities in the past that the other account was tagged red then the two accounts can bear this same consequences since you're the owner of them both, just as the same rule that applied on ban evasion, but anything aside this should be in what transpired between both of you in the past which we may not know.

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What's the point of a thread like that, it's a "-1" and if it bothers you, remove Malboroza from your trust list.

If you want to discuss, it will not affect you, and if you want to start a business, all you have to do is use a BTT escrow and you will not worry about this trust, and if you want to join signature campaigns, you must prove that you are a trustworthy member, create several high-quality posts and one of the managers may accept you if your posts Absolutely excellent. Otherwise, create a new account and make an honest start without scams or spam.

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 08, 2023, 03:09:09 PM

Forum members have the right to know how dirty he can be.

Forum members should also know how dirty you can be. There are a bunch of people who already provided a lot of proof that your account is connected to at least 14 more accounts. What makes you create that many accounts? Of course, I believe his statement that you are an account farmer who creates accounts to sell them. I don't see any other reason why a single person needs to create more than two accounts. For various purposes, someone could create three accounts. But, when it comes to 14 accounts, I don't believe that you are an innocent guy.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on June 08, 2023, 07:36:47 PM

While that's a valid question, even if OP successfully defends himself, there's still the issue of marlboroza not being active. I guess someone on DT could leave a counter-feedback, but OP really ought to have spoken up when the accusation was made.

I don't think counter-feedback is still valid with the current trust system, other user can leave a neutral feedback, but still it doesn't clean off the negative feedback.

Quote from: nutildah on June 08, 2023, 11:30:11 PM

I know OP admitted to having other accounts already but the lack of address connection to the other alts was bugging me so...

The post where the @OP accused for using that address was happen on 2016, but all of post where archived by forum members were started since 2018, so it seems no way to track it back.

There are many DT members on that thread and they're still trusted until now, if marlboroza wrongly accused @OP, other DT users should've pointed it before.

I think the @OP creating this post right now is on purpose because he know marlboroza is inactive, so he think he will win.

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I know OP admitted to having other accounts already but the lack of address connection to the other alts was bugging me so...

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Quote from: satmas on September 29, 2016, 10:01:55 AM

Daisy14 is connected to these guys as well.
proof; this address: 1Dk35CC2bktMUJoUwWGKmR35ykVLyBCJ92 was used here
Edit: Dinki is also connected via wallet address 1LQS9mtcUFxN5KbZ5CAyFE8urViVJPRLoz, as seen here. Sorry about the WOT.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/daisy14-812240 Daisy14 (158)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dank14-812245 Dank14 (143)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/das-812251 Das (340)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dinki-812256 Dinki (136)

dank also has 1Dk35CC2bktMUJoUwWGKmR35ykVLyBCJ92
First post history's almost identical. Conclusive.

Here's the piece of evidence that was missing (or at least I didn't see it anywhere previously):

which firmly ties Dank14 to the other accounts, if there was any question remaining.

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Quote from: OgNasty on June 08, 2023, 03:12:00 PM

For what it’s worth, I don’t see your profile as having a -1 but that is because I have DT removed from my trust network due to people like marlboroza who make heavy handed decisions when it comes to leaving negative trust.

Ditto (but not for the same reasons). However, I'm pretty sure it's not the rare cases like us who have rebuked the DT system that concern OP but rather the 99.x% of the rest of the forum who will end up seeing his red tag.

Aside from marlboroza being MIA, he did leave a reference link for the feedback he left so it's not as though it isn't justified or something that should be removed after an arbitrary period of time. Assuming what marlboroza alleged is true, I don't see what OP has done since the feedback was given that would warrant it being removed.

Quote from: logfiles on June 08, 2023, 06:45:25 PM

1. Why didn't you come out to defend yourself against the accusations and feedback that were made against your account at that time?

While that's a valid question, even if OP successfully defends himself, there's still the issue of marlboroza not being active. I guess someone on DT could leave a counter-feedback, but OP really ought to have spoken up when the accusation was made.

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 08, 2023, 01:38:09 PM

Hey guys,

Way back in 2016, some guy named "Malboroza" added a "-1" rating to my profile JUST because I had more than one account — I didn't enter into ANY trade neither did I scam anyone.

I stopped posting on this forum. . . When I checked back in 2020, the "-1" was still there!

This is 2023. . . The "-1" is still there!!
2016 — 2023!

Is this fair?!

Who exactly did I scam? . . . I'm asking all the moderators to identify who I scammed. . . Because this is getting really extreme Huh

I think you kinda late though, Marlboroza is no longer active in this community.

And he is the only one that can remove the negative on your profile.

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1. Why didn't you come out to defend yourself against the accusations and feedback that were made against your account at that time?
Why wait for almost 4 years to start crying about foul play even when the members that accused you are no longer active

2. This thread contains hard evidence about the accounts' connection to a big account, farm - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-didnt-cheat-anyone-5182721 especially Veleor's investigation.
What do you say about this?

Quote from: Veleor on September 09, 2019, 11:33:20 PM

I combined the records about OP's alts for future references.

10+ Accounts Connected: Goms, Daisy14, Dank14, Das, Dinki, Dassi, Dahhi, Gaugh, Gohs, Gahs

Proof:

Quote from: Goms on September 04, 2016, 10:26:39 AM

Name: Goms
Posts: 184
Position: Full member
Bitcoin Address: 1LQS9mtcUFxN5KbZ5CAyFE8urViVJPRLoz

Can I join as a member if there are no full member slots available?

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Quote from: Daisy14 on August 11, 2016, 11:53:38 AM

Username: Daisy14
Rank: Full member
Posts: 136
BTC address: 1LQS9mtcUFxN5KbZ5CAyFE8urViVJPRLoz

I will change my signature if accepted. Thanks Grin

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Quote from: Dinki on August 23, 2016, 04:50:07 PM

Username: Dinki
Post count: 71
BTC address: 1LQS9mtcUFxN5KbZ5CAyFE8urViVJPRLoz
Please sign me up!

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Quote from: Dahhi on August 18, 2016, 09:49:37 AM

I will like to take part in the campaign..

Name: Dahhi
Post Count: 141
Rank: Full Member
Bitcoin Address: 1LQS9mtcUFxN5KbZ5CAyFE8urViVJPRLoz
Profile UID: 813174

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Btctalk Name: Gahs
Rank: Full member
Current post count: 250
Btc address: 1LQS9mtcUFxN5KbZ5CAyFE8urViVJPRLoz
Wear appropriate signature: Definitely Grin

Would like to participate. Thanks.

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Quote from: Goms on July 15, 2016, 07:44:13 AM

Name: Goms
Rank: Full member
Bitcoin Address: 1Dk35CC2bktMUJoUwWGKmR35ykVLyBCJ92
Profile UID: 808046

Hope to get in Grin

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Quote from: Daisy14 on July 22, 2016, 09:30:17 AM

Link to Profile: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/daisy14-812240;sa=summary
Bitcointalk Rank: Member
Current number of posts: 80
Bitcoin Address to send the payment: 1Dk35CC2bktMUJoUwWGKmR35ykVLyBCJ92

I will like to participate in this campaign.

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Quote from: rizzlarolla on September 30, 2016, 10:06:58 AM

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/daisy14-812240 Daisy14 (158)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dank14-812245 Dank14 (143)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/das-812251 Das (340)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dinki-812256 Dinki (136)

dank also has 1Dk35CC2bktMUJoUwWGKmR35ykVLyBCJ92
First post history's almost identical. Conclusive.

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Quote from: Das on July 16, 2016, 09:29:11 PM

Name: Das
Rank: Member
Bitcoin Address: 1Dk35CC2bktMUJoUwWGKmR35ykVLyBCJ92
Profile UID: 812251

Would love to be a part of the team!

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Quote from: Dassi on November 01, 2016, 01:36:30 PM

Name: Dassi
Post count: 211
Rank: Full Member
Bitcoin address: 1Dk35CC2bktMUJoUwWGKmR35ykVLyBCJ92
Profile UID: 813171

Thanks.

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Quote from: Dahhi on July 20, 2016, 08:15:18 AM

User: Dahhi
Posts Start: 78
Pay in: btc
Address: 1Dk35CC2bktMUJoUwWGKmR35ykVLyBCJ92

I will like to join.
Thanks.

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Quote from: Gahs on July 23, 2016, 05:23:16 AM

My bitcoin address was omitted, it's not on your list. I wasn't among those who were paid... Sad

Please check it: 1Dk35CC2bktMUJoUwWGKmR35ykVLyBCJ92

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Quote from: Das on September 07, 2019, 11:07:46 PM

Username: Das
Bitcoin talk profile link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/das-812251;sa=account

Telegram chat: @mestiip

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Quote from: Gohs on September 07, 2019, 11:32:29 PM

Bitcointalk username: Gohs
Bitcointalk profile link:https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gohs-813708;sa=account
Telegram username: @mestiip

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Profiles Daisy14, Dank14, Das, Dinki have been registered within 1 hour.

Profiles Dassi and Dahhi have been registered within 6 minutes.

Profiles Gaugh, Gohs, Gahs have been registered within 2 hours.

Accounts Goms, Dank14, Das, Dassi, Gahs "woke up" at the same period.

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9/7/2019 8:40:42 PM woke up

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 08, 2023, 02:36:28 PM

In that case, I will give Marlboroza a negative trust as well. . . One good turn deserves another.

That is the wrong way to use the trust system, retaliatory feedbacks are not necessary, if you think someone is constant in giving inaccurate feedbacks, you should distrust that member. The member who left you that feedback is inactive and only them can remove it, so i feel you should forget about the feedback and use the forum as normal.

I think you do not fully understand what theymos said about retaliatory feedback. Infact, for the system to be healthy, there should be retaliatory feedback and I have been seeing it on people's trust feedback.
You mean if I give you a negative tag for an offence you didn't commit, all you could to is to distrust me?
If I give you an inaccurate negative feedback, you have the right to complain to the forum by creating a thread, that's when I refused to remove it. If the forum discovers that my negative feedback is unworthy, it means I will not last long on DT. Many people will distrust me but if few still holds me on DT, you have the right to send a retaliatory feedback.

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A major goal of this is to allow retaliatory distrusts and ratings to actually have some chance of mattering so that contentious ratings have an actual cost. If someone is obviously scamming, then any retaliatory rating should not last long due to the DT1 "voting", but if you negative-rate someone for generally disliking them, then their retaliation against you may stick. In borderline cases, it should result in something of a political battle.

The problem with Op is that his retaliatory feedback won't be that effective, and also people still hold the user who stopped using the forum on trust list.

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 08, 2023, 02:36:28 PM

In that case, I will give Marlboroza a negative trust as well. . . One good turn deserves another.

That is the wrong way to use the trust system, retaliatory feedbacks are not necessary, if you think someone is constant in giving inaccurate feedbacks, you should distrust that member. The member who left you that feedback is inactive and only them can remove it, so i feel you should forget about the feedback and use the forum as normal.

Quote from: Dank14 on June 08, 2023, 01:38:09 PM

This is 2023. . . The "-1" is still there!!
2016 — 2023!
Is this fair?!

Feedbacks are not time-barred, they can only be removed or modified by the person who sent them.

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For what it’s worth, I don’t see your profile as having a -1 but that is because I have DT removed from my trust network due to people like marlboroza who make heavy handed decisions when it comes to leaving negative trust. I much preferred the old days when feedback was positive and accounts were labeled as scammers if they did something wrong. Pretty sure I’ve said before that with the flags system, negative trust is redundant.

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See, I have to alert people that Malboroza is a bully who loves to hurt people for no good reason.

Forum members have the right to know how dirty he can be.

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Quote from: Dank14 on June 08, 2023, 02:36:28 PM

In that case, I will give marlboroza a negative rating also.

If you wish you can but it won't be shown unless you're a part of DT members when others see his profile.

But why suddenly you're bringing this to a discussion when the member who left the feedback on you isn't active anymore, FYI the feedbacks can't be deleted by mods it can be deleted by only the person who left it on your profile so it will be there unless Marlboroza comes active and decides to revert it.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on June 08, 2023, 02:22:28 PM

Not true.
He wrote that feedback in 2019, he registered in forum during 2016, and I repeat he was NOT a moderator.
Anyone can write a feedback on any profile.

The first time he gave me a negative trust was in 2016, he probably updated it again in 2019. . .

In that case, I will give Marlboroza a negative trust as well. . . One good turn deserves another.

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marlboroza was not a moderator and he is not active in forum anymore, so you will have that feedback forever on your profile.

Quote from: Dank14 on June 08, 2023, 02:17:59 PM

That's the thing, it was a freshman—moderator who put it there. . .

Not true.
He wrote that feedback in 2019, he registered in forum during 2016, and I repeat he was NOT a moderator.
Anyone can write a feedback on any profile.

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That's the thing, it was a self-appointed moderator who put it there. . .
Mind you, I didn't join one campaign with multiple accounts either!

Even Malboroza can't accuse me of joining the same campaign with multiple accounts.

The only rap was that I had more than one account — that was all!!

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Moderators have nothing to do with scams. They do not moderate scams and cannot remove neg trust. Only the one who left the trust can remove it, or theymos (but those are very rare cases).
since Marlboroza is away for quiet some time now, I think you have no luck with the neg trust.

Having more than 1 account is no problem, joining same campaign with many accounts is a rule breaking event and deserves neg tag.

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Hey guys,

Way back in 2016, some guy named "Malboroza" added a "-1" rating to my profile JUST because I had more than one account — I didn't enter into ANY trade neither did I scam anyone.

I stopped posting on this forum. . . When I checked back in 2020, the "-1" was still there!

This is 2023. . . The "-1" is still there!!
2016 — 2023!

Is this fair?!

Who exactly did I scam? . . . I'm asking all the moderators to identify who I scammed. . . Because this is getting really extreme Huh

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