Man Behind Week-Long Bitcoin Attacks Reveals Himself - page 4.

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Quote from: Guido on October 09, 2015, 12:48:44 AM

thanks for link to story tokeweed

very annoying but does need addressing
I have little faith in the core developers or foundation to agree zip these days
plus it takes them months, years to even code something small, then they make out their genius'

maybe this guy is doing us a favour in a way
but what if multiple people start doing it? what if he makes his 100 line code opensource

exchanges like cryptsy can't even get basic wallets for alts resynced in over a week. then shut down btc wallet for withdrawals due to this issue for days

shows how fragile things are right now

it would only take a few of these guys to affect price in a bad way, add block debate to conversation too

The core developers need assistance all on fronts, because they're short-staffed and not paid. I don't personally think it would be the end of the world for bitcoin to get hammered in price while we work out some bugs/growing-pains. Weak exchanges, pump-and-dumps and investors that don't belong in the cryptography industry will get theirs if this were the case. Scare away the bandits, feign disorder comrades.

Core has had a fix for this already however, and most 3rd parties are failing to adopt.

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thanks for link to story tokeweed

very annoying but does need addressing
I have little faith in the core developers or foundation to agree zip these days
plus it takes them months, years to even code something small, then they make out their genius'

maybe this guy is doing us a favour in a way
but what if multiple people start doing it? what if he makes his 100 line code opensource

exchanges like cryptsy can't even get basic wallets for alts resynced in over a week. then shut down btc wallet for withdrawals due to this issue for days

shows how fragile things are right now

it would only take a few of these guys to affect price in a bad way, add block debate to conversation too

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Quote from: amaclin on October 09, 2015, 12:43:48 AM

Quote from: TheGr33k on October 09, 2015, 12:37:49 AM

Sometimes script kitties like to pretend like anything out of the ordinary is spectacular and they're virtual gods in their own right. They try to show off, get publicity and pretend like they're rich because of these things because then they can lure in other scammers to scam them, and who would be there to stop them ?

Are you talking about bitcointers? Grin

I saw a very long topic they pretend to be "new elite"

All I know is the more the security flaws of bitcoin get exploited while we're still in the early stages, the better. I'm going to go ahead and tip my hat to any and everyone involved in making the blockchain more secure. Bitcoin protocol needs to be drilled repeatedly until it's going to have any valuable usage in the real world. Thank you for your service, soldier. Cheesy

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Quote from: TheGr33k on October 09, 2015, 12:37:49 AM

Sometimes script kitties like to pretend like anything out of the ordinary is spectacular and they're virtual gods in their own right. They try to show off, get publicity and pretend like they're rich because of these things because then they can lure in other scammers to scam them, and who would be there to stop them ?

Are you talking about bitcointers? Grin

I saw a very long topic they pretend to be "new elite"

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Quote from: VirosaGITS on October 09, 2015, 12:35:41 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on October 09, 2015, 12:33:10 AM

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Everybody’s bitcoins still get where they need to go, but it could take hours for the transaction to be confirmed instead of the usual 10 minutes

Ummm, why exactly would it take longer to confirm because of transaction malleability?

I think someone is confused....

He is confusing this issue with the spam attack that raised the miner tx fee for sure. This malleability attack has nothing to do with that and sure a lot of transaction DOUBLE get rejected, that doesn't mean its not business as usual.

Sometimes script kitties like to pretend like anything out of the ordinary is spectacular and they're virtual gods in their own right. They try to show off, get publicity and pretend like they're rich because of these things because then they can lure in other scammers to scam them, and who would be there to stop them ?

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Quote from: Quickseller on October 09, 2015, 12:33:10 AM

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Everybody’s bitcoins still get where they need to go, but it could take hours for the transaction to be confirmed instead of the usual 10 minutes

Ummm, why exactly would it take longer to confirm because of transaction malleability?

I think someone is confused....

He is confusing this issue with the spam attack that raised the miner tx fee for sure. This malleability attack has nothing to do with that and sure a lot of transaction DOUBLE get rejected, that doesn't mean its not business as usual.

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Quote from: Quickseller on October 09, 2015, 12:33:10 AM

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Everybody’s bitcoins still get where they need to go, but it could take hours for the transaction to be confirmed instead of the usual 10 minutes

Ummm, why exactly would it take longer to confirm because of transaction malleability?

I think someone is confused....

It seems like people are pretending like they're waiting for the conflicted transaction to verify itself.. The transaction that gets approved gets approved just as quickly as any other regular transaction does.
People are blowing this problem way out of proportion because it looks scary. It's unfortunate to see so much panic, but what can you expect from the public.. Hopefully it will get patched soon and we can all shh

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Everybody’s bitcoins still get where they need to go, but it could take hours for the transaction to be confirmed instead of the usual 10 minutes

Ummm, why exactly would it take longer to confirm because of transaction malleability?

I think someone is confused....

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Quote from: amaclin on October 09, 2015, 12:26:27 AM

Quote from: VirosaGITS on October 09, 2015, 12:21:24 AM

We need to get all the vulnerabilities out of the way.

1) Are you sure that every problem has a solution? (I am talking not about bitcoin, this is generic question)
2) Why should somebody fix vunerability if you do not want to pay for fixing?

1)Yes in a way or another. There is always a way for a problem to not be a problem anymore. No matter what.
2)A bounty paid from a miner tax would not be bad. I bet a system were someone find an exploit, come up with a solution and set a bounty, submit it for vote to miners. Change get implemented, next 1000 blocks have 0.01% reward sent to bounty.

So sure i would pay. But i would never pay someone who is just black mailing. For example those DDoS kid extorting small pools to pay or else they get DDoS'd.

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What would be the goal behind this? Is this a white hat, just showing the possible exploits in the network or are there other motives behind this? In the end this will lead to more people not trusting the Bitcoin network and deciding to give up on the whole idea. Yes, Bitcoin was not brought down with this attack, but it is very disruptive. If the goal is to identify holes in the system, it should be submitted to the core developers and tested on the TestNet not on the live Blockchain.

It is not fun anymore and it disrupts business, if it delays transactions.

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Quote from: VirosaGITS on October 09, 2015, 12:21:24 AM

We need to get all the vulnerabilities out of the way.

1) Are you sure that every problem has a solution? (I am talking not about bitcoin, this is generic question)
2) Why should somebody fix vunerability if you do not want to pay for fixing?

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Quote from: amaclin on October 09, 2015, 12:15:42 AM

Quote from: coinplus on October 08, 2015, 11:58:32 PM

We can request him not to repeat..

Would you like to pay also?

Hell no. I welcome these kinds of attacks. People who cause TX spam or any kind of attack against the network now is a boon. We need to get all the vulnerabilities out of the way. People that find way to disrupt the network until the issue get patched should be getting security bounty rewards.

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Quote from: coinplus on October 08, 2015, 11:58:32 PM

We can request him not to repeat..

Would you like to pay also?

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Quote from: coinplus on October 08, 2015, 11:58:32 PM

Quote from: alwinlinzee on October 08, 2015, 11:47:31 PM

Quote from: --Encrypted-- on October 08, 2015, 11:39:57 PM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/amaclin-197593
that's him. in case anyone missed.

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But Maclin’s window may be closing. A Bitcoin update designed to fix the malleability issue has been in the works for over a year, and the latest attack could be just the spark to light a fire under it.

I dont think Alister Maclin spent huge amount of money to get this done but rather he is a genius who can manipulate codes and java languages but i wish he does not do it again because a lot of people in this community suffers during that attack.

We can request him not to repeat..
But what if a government plan against a decentralized system for the purpose of their own system. So, we need to be ready with a versatile robust system to face any kind of attack. Time to think of changes to withstand any kind of attack. Last time, many people suffered with higher fees and late transaction confirmations.

I think i must agreed with you that all necessary things should be put in place to avoid this type of attack again, bitcoin controls billions of dollars and we should be able to create a powerful defense even if we all have to donate.

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Quote from: alwinlinzee on October 08, 2015, 11:47:31 PM

Quote from: --Encrypted-- on October 08, 2015, 11:39:57 PM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/amaclin-197593
that's him. in case anyone missed.

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But Maclin’s window may be closing. A Bitcoin update designed to fix the malleability issue has been in the works for over a year, and the latest attack could be just the spark to light a fire under it.

I dont think Alister Maclin spent huge amount of money to get this done but rather he is a genius who can manipulate codes and java languages but i wish he does not do it again because a lot of people in this community suffers during that attack.

We can request him not to repeat..
But what if a government plan against a decentralized system for the purpose of their own system. So, we need to be ready with a versatile robust system to face any kind of attack. Time to think of changes to withstand any kind of attack. Last time, many people suffered with higher fees and late transaction confirmations.

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Quote from: --Encrypted-- on October 08, 2015, 11:39:57 PM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/amaclin-197593
that's him. in case anyone missed.

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But Maclin’s window may be closing. A Bitcoin update designed to fix the malleability issue has been in the works for over a year, and the latest attack could be just the spark to light a fire under it.

Nothing is broken, and as far I as know no one get scammed or robbed. You could only be in trouble if you accept zero confirmation transactions, and that is rarely, if ever the case. In fact because people like him there we can have that security upgrade already in place. And that is rather good news.

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Quote from: --Encrypted-- on October 08, 2015, 11:39:57 PM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/amaclin-197593
that's him. in case anyone missed.

and

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But Maclin’s window may be closing. A Bitcoin update designed to fix the malleability issue has been in the works for over a year, and the latest attack could be just the spark to light a fire under it.

I dont think Alister Maclin spent huge amount of money to get this done but rather he is a genius who can manipulate codes and java languages but i wish he does not do it again because a lot of people in this community suffers during that attack.

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Quote from: P-Funk on October 08, 2015, 11:29:41 PM

Nothing's broken.

Nope but it caused some annoying disruptions nonetheless.

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hee-ho.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/amaclin-197593
that's him. in case anyone missed.

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But Maclin’s window may be closing. A Bitcoin update designed to fix the malleability issue has been in the works for over a year, and the latest attack could be just the spark to light a fire under it.

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Nothing's broken.

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