Topic: Man, this is low (Read 3397 times)

A coin is a lot of work to start and manage, I would contribute but I would rather him a part of PayCon

come on bud===> can't we [ANN]~*~Spoetnik~*~coin already and whip up some real wild monkey business ? ;-) haaaa

Lambo's are expensive,

But really, if you think about the average salary and what is "worth" the time and effort then I would estimate about 2k a month per person to work fulltime. 1 MILLION dollars, you could have 10 developers working fulltime for 2 years.

what REALLY bothered me about Blocknet is Dan worked on it offline and had it 75% done
then he came here and asked us all for about $950,000 usd at the time value wise in Bitcoin (to finish the 25% etc)
so you want to talk about what he needs to do the work or live on ? LOL
I thought that was simply obscene.. asking us guys here after all these coins already posted for a MILLION dollars ?!
wow he had some nerve !

Well played,

I think it's a bit different with Crypto though as when drawing money from a particular Coin it reduces the amount that everyone else can get out of it so I think that falls under the category of "floating all boats" and spending as little as possible. Would you be happy with receiving 50-100k a year rather than millions if it also meant that others could also make money as well? Then the question is, how do you achieve that?


You could have the best product but without good marketing then how would people be excited enough to buy the product? I'd say a business with an average product and great marketing could outperform a great product with average marketing.

Not true. Do you know what Einstein's average salary was?

"The reasonable figure that Einstein suggested was the modest sum of $3,000 [about $46,800 in today's dollars]. Flexner upped it to $10,000 and offered Einstein an annual pension of $7,500, which he refused as "too generous," so it was reduced to $6,000. When the Institute hired a mathematician at an annual salary of $15,000, with an annual pension of $8,000, Einstein's compensation was increased to those amounts. "

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703906204575027503446091776

Obviously you need some money to live, and more money to be comfortable. But the culture of people treating money as an end in itself needs to stop. Major corporations and the filthy rich simply hoard money like it was a stake in a shitcoin, and even though the federal government can't buy ink fast enough to print more money, 99% of it goes directly into the pockets of the 1%.

And what about the people who claim they are bringing about technological advancements but all they really do is flex their superior sales skills or ability to put clients under their mind control? This seems to be what at least 50% of all business in America is comprised of.

Well I really like the tech and it is a pursuit for me to advance the tech and learn as much as I can but I also want to make profit and do this stuff fulltime and make money at it.

You said it yourself during the whole Blocknet debacle "why don't people try to float all boats"

Maybe you aren't making millions of dollars and have less profit but then everyone can make money and that resonates. Let say someone IS in the pursuit of profit purely for their own gain through ICO's, hidden premines, scammy exchanges etc. Well on the internet you really cannot hide anything you do so eventually someone will leak the truth so your name is shot and the ones that are working hard and making a go of it would never want any association so what would be left is to either give up or continue scamming people until it blows up in your face.

If you are working for the pursuit of the tech and to make a business out of it, there is lots of room to make money especially if you can learn so much that you can become a sort of guru (I'm not a guru). If you know that much then others will come to you for advice and help and you can charge what you want depending on the complexity of the work. Nasdaq and Wallstreet are only just getting into Crypto so where are they going to get help? All the most experienced people are here, not on wallstreet, they have money and we have experience.

If you are wondering, I haven't really made any money at Crypto and spent probably $2k over the last year for help from various people. I've also helped a lot of people with problems where I could and haven't asked for money from them, even turned down some offers because I wasn't confident enough as to what I was doing (and lack of time).

Maybe the goal should not be how much money you can make, but how little money you can spend? lol

@Crestington, I was thinking the same after posting man..
I too *only got involved because of the chance of maybe making some money.
so I like to think I got into this stuff for 50% profit and 50% tech stuff or what ever.
What has worried me is when too many guys are ONLY here for the profit side.
My own brother told me Fuck Bitcoin I just want money when we mentioned this matter
and I was kind of disgusted at that attitude..

reality is many guys here are, loitering around for nothing but money reasons *only.
and the top 10% of the money (richest) play by their own rules.

How about technical advancement for the pursuit of profit? Depends on how you go about it, is it through lies an deception, or are you making money because you can do things other people can't do and using that to further advance the technology. Anyone saying they are in it solely for the technical advancement is lying to themselves.

^kaint catch meeee>>>>>WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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and what took Capone down ?

laws or not *looming you all may wanna cover your ass's (tax fraud is serious shit !)
guys hang out here bragging about making $100,000 on coins and you rich pricks think your untouchable..
but if the fed's get their hands on you ? your fucking screwed !
trust me the only people on earth you don't wanna fuck with is the tax man.. nobody has a greater ability to take money from you by force *for life
..or even throw your ass in jail for a long time.

so crypto laws or not.. generating income and NOT claiming it IS a crime *if not reported and taxes paid on it.

think about it guys (especially those cocky big swinging bitcoin pumpers etc)
live it up while you can sleaze balls preying on people.. your time is running out  

Stupid people only care about profit. Smart people care about technological advancement.

You forgot a sense of humor and a thick skin, why do you care about peoples opinion? This is the internet and it's all bullshit but right now you are spending time replying and getting sucked into people trolling you when you could be working on the future, instead of just talking about it.


People only care about profit.

No.

Was the profitability of the Blockchain of Bitcoin important back in let's say 2010? First you are comparing me with impudent scammer like Garza, and now you presume that I think like an average bagholder.

This thread is not about our thoughts on how the things should be done. I posted here because some dutch guy insulted my home country in the comments of the article posted from the OP. But if you want my opinion then I can say you are very wrong. You put profit, features and innovations before adoption and marketing. The concept "now" does not present in any serious business and cryptocurrencies for that matter. NOW they can deliver you some features and innovations, but tomorrow people who did it will be most likely gone. What matters is tomorrow, not now. And features and innovations doesn't mean s*it if you don't have adoption and good marketing. Here are the only simple things, which you need:

1. Good idea.
2. Team with honest, dedicated and even stubborn people, which provide confidence to their "investors".
3. Strong network.
4. Marketing and adoption.

That's it.

 

Everyone believes the Coins they are holding will be the grandest thing because they are holding them and working on it and want it to be worth more. What IS important is first and foremost the profitability of the Blockchain itself through it's rewards, then it's features and innovation, what you can use it for, and finally it's marketing. Never use soon™ because it doesn't mean anything, what is important is now™ and what has already been done.

This is atleast somewhat on-topic because this "onecoin" Ponzi scheme thing lacks this important factor, if they are going to be advantaging improvised children then it would be done with full transparency and just do it instead of saying it will be done.

Makes sense?

Crypto is like the wild west. Pretty much anything goes. Not for the Lilly liveried or faint of heart.

I would take that comparison as an insult and will no longer reply to your sarcastic comments.

Best of luck.

lol, that is the most important thing Mr. Garza said about PayCoin before it lost 99.9% of it's value.

Don't worry, I am calm, but I am passionate.

This is the probably the most important thing you said, but it also seems that you are contradict to yourself.

FAILURE is part of everyone's life, and if you can't see that it can be adopted as fun and even charity, than you do not really believe in adoption.

We are talking about something far greater than bunch of bagholders.

Very well said. FAIL will not fail.