Manny Pacquiao stands on same sex marriage - page 5.

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Gloire à la Victoire !

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Quote from: yugo23 on February 22, 2016, 05:13:44 PM

How would the fact to not using condom help?

Not using condom would only mean that you... Can't have safe sex?

It's important to not have sex with someone you don't hope to stay with until the end of your life?
Damn that's hard, how do you know you wanna stay with this person. Especially if you never had sex with this person, cause sex is 30% of the relationship ^^

That's the problem of our society. Sex is meant to procreate, and maybe have pleasure if you can, not to be a way of life ! If you're married with her/him, then you shouldn't be able to left him. Before, if you like this person, just wait until your wedding. Seriously, if you can't wait one year, that's problematic Undecided

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Oh YOU know what sex is meant for? And because it's the natural use of sex it's what should be used for?

And if I don't want children I shouldn't have sex? Damn that's a shame!
And if I don't want to get married?
And if I don't want to engage myself with someone but just want to get a good moment?

This depends of a lot of factors. If you're a man that want a good moment, then I don't see any problem, except if you're already married.
If you don't want to get married and stay with the same person, not that bad, but could be better.
You can have sex without having children, if you're with the correct person, if you want a good moment, or if you already have some children.

Whaou you get some precise criterias... And if I just want to have sex with a random girl I find attractive?

Depends on your age, your situation, if she's virgin or not... I can't just throw my judgement after a single line, I need to know more.

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Quote from: stiffbud on February 22, 2016, 11:20:04 PM

There was actually a rumour that Manny once had gay relationships when he was just starting his career in Manila. Due to his poverty it was a gay man who gave him home and financial support when he has nowhere to go. Undecided

He didn't say he hates gay he only said he don't like marrying gays Grin

and i guess the homo he was with before is responsible enough that he didn't got HIV.

What makes you think Manny doesn't already have HIV? Perhaps that's why he's acting so homophobic?

Charlie Sheen knew he had HIV years before he told anyone
http://www.washingtonblade.com/2015/11/17/charlie-sheen-admits-i-am-hiv-positive/

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Quote from: stiffbud on February 22, 2016, 11:20:04 PM

There was actually a rumour that Manny once had gay relationships when he was just starting his career in Manila. Due to his poverty it was a gay man who gave him home and financial support when he has nowhere to go. Undecided

He didn't say he hates gay he only said he don't like marrying gays Grin

and i guess the homo he was with before is responsible enough that he didn't got HIV.

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Quote from: bonski on February 22, 2016, 11:24:28 PM

Quote from: stiffbud on February 22, 2016, 11:20:04 PM

There was actually a rumour that Manny once had gay relationships when he was just starting his career in Manila. Due to his poverty it was a gay man who gave him home and financial support when he has nowhere to go. Undecided

Really? do you have proofs regarding this matters, If you can prove it please show it to us so we'll know if it's true. Manny grew in a poor family, but Manny did pursue his dream to be a boxer not knowing that he will be a champion with many belts. This is only a tip don't accuse someone if you don't have proof then better not to tell it.

I said it was a "rumour". Di you read ewry words in my post? What I am trying to say is way back when he was just starting his career he took shelter and he was provided with help by those he called worse than animals. I admire Manny, really I do, he is one example that poverty is no a hindrance to achieve success. What I hate is lack of wide view in the issue to say such words.
Have you even thought of how the Pilipinos will react after what he has done? When he said those words, Manny lit a bomb that can case those homophobes even do much worse to the gay people in the Philippines. It could lead to more violence against the lgbt people. Have you read how those " Christians" pushes their words to gay people that how Manny was right tht eery gay people should die? Manny did a great damage man, just think of it.

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I'm happy that the entire world is giving him shit for his comments...

https://news.yahoo.com/boxing-great-manny-pacquiao-refuses-back-down-gay-034216358--box.html

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Philippine boxing great Manny Pacquiao doubled down Friday over gay slurs that have tarnished his reputation and cost him millions in endorsements, insisting God was on his side

An even more incendiary quote from the Bible was posted on his Instagram account early Thursday.

The quote read: "If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads".

The post was quickly deleted, but not before local media outlet ABS-CBN captured and published a screen shot.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/2/22/11091800/dave-bautista-skewers-manny-pacquiao-for-anti-gay-remarks

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My opinion on that is he’s a fucking idiot. My mom happens to be a lesbian so I don’t fucking take that shit. I don’t think it’s funny

If anyone called my mother an animal I’d stick my foot in his ass.

He's making everyone in the Philippines look like a bunch of cavemen

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Quote from: Moloch on February 22, 2016, 10:43:15 PM

I was actually referring to Manny being the closet homosexual, but thanks for getting so defensive, now we know you are a fag too...

If I was a fag, then I'd have told that openly. I am not 15-years old. If I have a mental disease, then I'll seek help rather than hiding it from everyone.

Quote from: Moloch on February 22, 2016, 10:43:15 PM

The first step is to admit you have a problem...

So you admit that it is a "problem" rather than way of living. Good.

Quote from: Moloch on February 22, 2016, 10:43:15 PM

whenever you are ready to come out of the closet, we will be here waiting for you

You can wait with lube and condoms for as long as you want. And I'll let you know when I convert to homosexuality. Grin

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Quote from: stiffbud on February 22, 2016, 11:20:04 PM

There was actually a rumour that Manny once had gay relationships when he was just starting his career in Manila. Due to his poverty it was a gay man who gave him home and financial support when he has nowhere to go. Undecided

Really? do you have proofs regarding this matters, If you can prove it please show it to us so we'll know if it's true. Manny grew in a poor family, but Manny did pursue his dream to be a boxer not knowing that he will be a champion with many belts. This is only a tip don't accuse someone if you don't have proof then better not to tell it.

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There was actually a rumour that Manny once had gay relationships when he was just starting his career in Manila. Due to his poverty it was a gay man who gave him home and financial support when he has nowhere to go. Undecided

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on February 22, 2016, 10:28:51 PM

Quote from: Moloch on February 22, 2016, 10:01:06 PM

What does any of this have to do with Manny being an uneducated homophobic troglodyte?

Pacman is renowned for his performance in the ring. He might be uneducated, but that is not his fault. He had a very difficult childhood. As a kid, he had to cope with extreme poverty, and still he made it big. Have some respect for him.

Quote from: Moloch on February 22, 2016, 10:01:06 PM

Studies have shown that the more homophobic a person appears, the greater chance they are a closet homosexual... Would you like to keep going with your homophobic comments?

Try this trick somewhere else. If I was a homosexual, I would declare that and seek help from a psychiatrist. There is nothing to be ashamed of being a homosexual. It is just like schizophrenia and other mental diseases. Homosexuals need help, not ridicule.

1) I'll respect him the day he starts respecting homosexuals

2) http://www.livescience.com/Study: Homophobes May Be Hidden Homosexuals

I was actually referring to Manny being the closet homosexual, but thanks for getting so defensive, now we know you are a fag too...

The first step is to admit you have a problem... nobody can help you if you can't be honest with yourself... whenever you are ready to come out of the closet, we will be here waiting for you

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Quote from: Moloch on February 22, 2016, 10:01:06 PM

What does any of this have to do with Manny being an uneducated homophobic troglodyte?

Pacman is renowned for his performance in the ring. He might be uneducated, but that is not his fault. He had a very difficult childhood. As a kid, he had to cope with extreme poverty, and still he made it big. Have some respect for him.

Quote from: Moloch on February 22, 2016, 10:01:06 PM

Studies have shown that the more homophobic a person appears, the greater chance they are a closet homosexual... Would you like to keep going with your homophobic comments?

Try this trick somewhere else. If I was a homosexual, I would declare that and seek help from a psychiatrist. There is nothing to be ashamed of being a homosexual. It is just like schizophrenia and other mental diseases. Homosexuals need help, not ridicule.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on February 22, 2016, 09:40:28 PM

Quote from: Moloch on February 22, 2016, 09:25:42 PM

1) If they were allowed to get married they would not sleep around so much... That's just common sense...

I have posted evidence to the contrary. Even in states or countries where the same-sex marriage is legal, the homosexuals are likely to have more than 100 sexual partners (examples are France and California).

Quote from: Moloch on February 22, 2016, 09:25:42 PM

B) Are you joking? Heterosexuals sleep around just as much... What is the number one reason for divorce?

Among married heterosexuals, it is rare. Even if there are multiple sexual partners, it is likely to be 1 or 2 at the most.

Quote from: Zeke2345 on February 22, 2016, 09:36:03 PM

Gay guys I am friends with are no where near batting thousand for sex partners. Think this is more a perception issue.
Media may be a issue here with how they show gays.

From Homosexualities: A Study of Diversity Among Men and Women by Alan P. Bell, Martin S. Weinberg.

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83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexualities:_A_Study_of_Diversity_Among_Men_and_Women

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Arguably the best research on this subject is the General Social Survey (GSS) conducted annually since 1972 by University of Chicago researchers. For 37 years, they have asked a representative national sample about infidelity. The results have been consistent. Every year, 10 percent of spouses admit cheating--12 percent of men, 7 percent of women.

What does any of this have to do with Manny being an uneducated homophobic troglodyte?

Studies have shown that the more homophobic a person appears, the greater chance they are a closet homosexual... Would you like to keep going with your homophobic comments?

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Quote from: Moloch on February 22, 2016, 09:25:42 PM

1) If they were allowed to get married they would not sleep around so much... That's just common sense...

I have posted evidence to the contrary. Even in states or countries where the same-sex marriage is legal, the homosexuals are likely to have more than 100 sexual partners (examples are France and California).

Quote from: Moloch on February 22, 2016, 09:25:42 PM

B) Are you joking? Heterosexuals sleep around just as much... What is the number one reason for divorce?

Among married heterosexuals, it is rare. Even if there are multiple sexual partners, it is likely to be 1 or 2 at the most.

Quote from: Zeke2345 on February 22, 2016, 09:36:03 PM

Gay guys I am friends with are no where near batting thousand for sex partners. Think this is more a perception issue.
Media may be a issue here with how they show gays.

From Homosexualities: A Study of Diversity Among Men and Women by Alan P. Bell, Martin S. Weinberg.

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83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexualities:_A_Study_of_Diversity_Among_Men_and_Women

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on February 22, 2016, 09:23:15 PM

Here is the major issue I am having with the homosexuals. An average homosexual is not loyal to his partner, and on average he will have anywhere from 100 to 1,000 sexual partners. Even in countries where the homosexual marriage is legalized, the situation is the same. I am not saying that there are no heterosexuals with more than 100 sexual partners. But in heterosexual lifestyle, it is very very rare.

Gay guys I am friends with are no where near batting thousand for sex partners. Think this is more a perception issue.
Media may be a issue here with how they show gays.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on February 22, 2016, 09:23:15 PM

Here is the major issue I am having with the homosexuals. An average homosexual is not loyal to his partner, and on average he will have anywhere from 100 to 1,000 sexual partners. Even in countries where the homosexual marriage is legalized, the situation is the same. I am not saying that there are no heterosexuals with more than 100 sexual partners. But in heterosexual lifestyle, it is very very rare.

1) If they were allowed to get married they would not sleep around so much... That's just common sense...

B) Are you joking? Heterosexuals sleep around just as much... What is the number one reason for divorce?

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Here is the major issue I am having with the homosexuals. An average homosexual is not loyal to his partner, and on average he will have anywhere from 100 to 1,000 sexual partners. Even in countries where the homosexual marriage is legalized, the situation is the same. I am not saying that there are no heterosexuals with more than 100 sexual partners. But in heterosexual lifestyle, it is very very rare.

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What happens when the horny aliens come to Earth! Does the bible plan for this event,because I need to know if I can have sex with a alien or have to say no at the bar. Think I would be very conflicted about this and want to plan for the future.

On a different note...If some one was attacked in a rape by a similar sex is that person that was attacked frowned on as well by god?
Imagine this would be relevant because it happens frequently enough. I honestly do not know the bibles take on rape,would be interested to see.

I tried reading the bible once and could not get past the begots,maybe I should try again. Thanks Manny you made me pick up a book,it was the bible or Fyodor Dostoyevsky. Let you know how I perceive it. Maybe I should start a blog on how I read the bible.

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Quote from: youdamushi on February 22, 2016, 06:41:38 PM

Quote from: Moloch on February 22, 2016, 06:28:24 PM

Get Educated About Homosexuality (Animated)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSQSx3OCrXQ

Just wanna say that animation is evil hmm...
Cause you know it's whole not natural, and representing humans is representing God's creation which means you take yourself as a god and shit like that!
So it's not an argument for a zealot ^^

There is zero sex of any kind in that video... it just talks about common misconceptions about homosexuality

If you want to watch gay animal sex, perhaps this video is more what you are looking for:

Animal Homosexuality Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdcvRe7ox8

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Quote from: yugo23 on February 22, 2016, 05:13:44 PM

How would the fact to not using condom help?

Not using condom would only mean that you... Can't have safe sex?

It's important to not have sex with someone you don't hope to stay with until the end of your life?
Damn that's hard, how do you know you wanna stay with this person. Especially if you never had sex with this person, cause sex is 30% of the relationship ^^

That's the problem of our society. Sex is meant to procreate, and maybe have pleasure if you can, not to be a way of life ! If you're married with her/him, then you shouldn't be able to left him. Before, if you like this person, just wait until your wedding. Seriously, if you can't wait one year, that's problematic Undecided

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Oh YOU know what sex is meant for? And because it's the natural use of sex it's what should be used for?

And if I don't want children I shouldn't have sex? Damn that's a shame!
And if I don't want to get married?
And if I don't want to engage myself with someone but just want to get a good moment?

This depends of a lot of factors. If you're a man that want a good moment, then I don't see any problem, except if you're already married.
If you don't want to get married and stay with the same person, not that bad, but could be better.
You can have sex without having children, if you're with the correct person, if you want a good moment, or if you already have some children.

Whaou you get some precise criterias... And if I just want to have sex with a random girl I find attractive?

Nah you just jack off. Ah damn that's forbidden too! Well you just stop producing this natural secretion you evil!

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Quote from: Moloch on February 22, 2016, 06:28:24 PM

Get Educated About Homosexuality (Animated)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSQSx3OCrXQ

Just wanna say that animation is evil hmm...
Cause you know it's whole not natural, and representing humans is representing God's creation which means you take yourself as a god and shit like that!
So it's not an argument for a zealot ^^

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Get Educated About Homosexuality (Animated)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSQSx3OCrXQ

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