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Quote from: normanhot on July 31, 2024, 11:56:51 AM

Okay , if we dont know the identity of the creator how can we know the true purpose of creating BTC in the first place?
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Why would you need to know the identity of a creator to assess the "true purpose" of its creation or ideas? I don't care who invents something good or interesting, unless those creators have proven to be deeply evil in the past.

Have you even taken the time to read and understand(!) the Bitcoin Whitepaper? What do you think was the reason for the cited headline from The Times newspaper in the Bitcoin genesis block (besides proving a timestamp)?

Satoshi Nakamoto likely didn't like what common crooked financial systems and their supporting crooked politicians and governments were doing. He had the idea to create something which is trustless, safe, point-to-point, decentralized and governed by math and energy (proof-of-work) solving crucial problems that digital currencies prior had. Good enough reasons for me.

Oh and btw Bitcoin is still safe after more than 15 and a half years and with a total market cap of around 1.26 trillion $$$ at present.

If you're not a lazy duck, here's some material to read and learn from:

Wei Dai/Satoshi Nakamoto 2009 Bitcoin emails

https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org

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Quote from: normanhot on July 24, 2024, 04:25:53 PM

I've heard many rumors that Satoshi Nakamoto is of Russian origin and that Bitcoin was created in Russia. Many online forums discuss this topic. What do you think?

Of what importance will this rumor be to us if it was true and not just speculations. Does it matter where Satoshi is from? He has removed himself from Bitcoin and Bitcoin has grown this popular and stronger without him so his origins doesn't matter to the community anymore. He has done his part and it's left for us to continue his legacy from where he stopped. Bitcoin is more of the people's project and everybody is contributing to the success of the currency so even though Satoshi is from North Korea, I don't think anybody cares.

It shouldn't come as a shock that this rumors are from people that don't want to see Bitcoin progressing and looking for lies to spread. Beside how are we to believe you when there's no links to your claims or are we just to believe you when you say many online forum are discussing the matter? Well even though they do, we don't have to discuss it because nobody gives a fuck where Satoshi is from. He give us one of the most incredible inventions mankind will ever create and that's a decentralized currency that is independent and not regulated by the governments.

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Quote from: normanhot on July 24, 2024, 04:25:53 PM

I've heard many rumors that Satoshi Nakamoto is of Russian origin and that Bitcoin was created in Russia. Many online forums discuss this topic. What do you think?

There are so many people discussing this that I have never even heard of it.

What online forums are you talking about? This is the main forum in the BTC-community, but I haven't seen any discussions like this here (except yours).

What are these assumptions based on? There must be direct or indirect facts that suggest that the creator of bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto is from Russia.

A bit of speculation.
Even if this is true, does it really matter? What matters is what benefits bitcoin provides, not who created it and in what country.

Personally, I don't care about the origin of the creator of bitcoin. I appreciate his contribution that changed the world.

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Okay , if we dont know the identity of the creator how can we know the true purpose of creating BTC in the first place?

i know there plenty many many good reasons for creating it but there always in the shadows hiding the true intention of making it

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Quote from: normanhot on July 24, 2024, 04:25:53 PM

I've heard many rumors that Satoshi Nakamoto is of Russian origin and that Bitcoin was created in Russia. Many online forums discuss this topic. What do you think?

I can also make a clamp that Satoshi Nakamoto is from my country of residence but don't ask me to prove it. The discussion about where Satoshi Nakamoto lives or is from has become a big mystery that no one has been able to solve because he understood the impact when identities are spread so that it makes the security system much more complicated to find him. His work has been known worldwide and many people have benefited from what he created so that we start to forget which country he came from.

At first I knew bitcoin and really wanted to know who Satoshi Nakamoto was but after I studied it further it seemed that Satoshi Nakamoto's identity was not needed because bitcoin was created so perfectly for us to use now. So it's better like now and his identity doesn't need to be known by anyone for his security.

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The name Satoshi Nakamoto sounds like a Japanese names but the creation of Bitcoin till now there is no real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto and where he is from, he made Bitcoin looks anonymously. If not that he made Bitcoin anonymous, the government would have used their power and their position to manipulate him.

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Quote from: Not your key not your BTC on July 24, 2024, 05:19:29 PM

I don't even care where Satoshi comes from, and where the Bitcoin was created. I only care about how to collect as many as possible for my future.

You took the thought right off my head. I don't care about his origins or where he disappeared to. The man is a legend and I doff my heart for him. And right now what I really care and think about are- how to accumulate more Bitcoin and help the community grow and make the world a better place through Bitcoin and it's technologies. It matters more than what I think.

If you want to know about the origin of Satoshi I think you have to do a lot of research and it will be different, as long as Bitcoin remains Bitcoin I don’t care about the origin of Satoshi or take it important to know about Satoshi, the only thing I can say every individual is care about is how the bitcoin will grow to another and help those who believe in it, although you must know much about it knowing about bitcoin and who created it but it is not that important to know about Satoshi before you invest, the main thing is to understand the technology and understand the bitcoin itself, I know some people might want to know more about it but trust is the main thing you need before engaging in any concerning cryptocurrency.

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Quote from: normanhot on July 29, 2024, 06:30:08 AM

Quote from: acroman08 on July 28, 2024, 01:25:38 PM

Quote from: normanhot on July 24, 2024, 04:25:53 PM

What do you think?

it's probably just another "shot in the dark" theory. but out of curiosity, can you share the thread where they talked about this rumor? I am curious to read as to what they are basing their theory on. I mean, was there any indication that Satoshi was of Russian decent or something?

I saw 2 threads about it and now they are deleted !!! surprise isn't ?

it was on Reddit

Reddit is a social platform and anybody with a username there can amke any post they feel to make with unfounded claims just to arouse unnecessary discussions. And don't be surprised, for the moderator there to have deleted the thread it's a clear indication that it's all shits they probably be talking about with no forensic evidence attached. Try to pay less attention to rumors about who Satoshi is or where he/they are from and rather channel that enthusiasm to developing your knowledge about bitcoin and how you can succeed financially with it. My two cents!

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Quote from: acroman08 on July 28, 2024, 01:25:38 PM

Quote from: normanhot on July 24, 2024, 04:25:53 PM

What do you think?

it's probably just another "shot in the dark" theory. but out of curiosity, can you share the thread where they talked about this rumor? I am curious to read as to what they are basing their theory on. I mean, was there any indication that Satoshi was of Russian decent or something?

I saw 2 threads about it and now they are deleted !!! surprise isn't ?

it was on Reddit

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Quote from: normanhot on July 24, 2024, 04:25:53 PM

What do you think?

it's probably just another "shot in the dark" theory. but out of curiosity, can you share the thread where they talked about this rumor? I am curious to read as to what they are basing their theory on. I mean, was there any indication that Satoshi was of Russian decent or something?

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Quote from: normanhot on July 24, 2024, 04:25:53 PM

I've heard many rumors that Satoshi Nakamoto is of Russian origin and that Bitcoin was created in Russia. Many online forums discuss this topic. What do you think?

I think without any proof, rumors would always be welcomed to spread and would easily be seen to be true by feeble minds (I don’t mean you OP, let me get that point clear), that see any importance in this kind of claims.

The origin of Satoshi Nakamoto wasn’t meant to be traced or known. Even up to this moment, no one can clearly phantom on if, Satoshi Nakamoto is a single individual or a group of developers who go by that unanimous name.
How then do you get to attach an origin to such a character.

The anonymous nature of the character is good and has actually served Bitcoin well, instead of being interested in the origin of Satoshi Nakamoto, we should rather focus on the technology about Bitcoin and how to see it last in our world.

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Quote from: normanhot on July 24, 2024, 04:25:53 PM

I've heard many rumors that Satoshi Nakamoto is of Russian origin and that Bitcoin was created in Russia. Many online forums discuss this topic. What do you think?

No one knows who he is and where he is from. I would also say he is from Japan because that name sound like the Japanese names or even from a country in Asia. But do I have a proof to back my claim up? NO. Do I think some people will think like me? YES. Do I think people will believe me? MAYBE. Will people use my assertion or imagination to write about him in blogs and news websites? YES. This is how typically you stumbled into what you saw that made you think that Satoshi Nakamoto is from Russia. Anyone can come with his opinion but without a clear proof that he is really the one, all will just be left as chasing clouts. There are somethings that looks misery about bitcoin than only him can unlock and without someone unlocking that, no one will be believed to be him except him when he unlocks those miseries.

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Quote from: normanhot on July 24, 2024, 04:25:53 PM

I've heard many rumors that Satoshi Nakamoto is of Russian origin and that Bitcoin was created in Russia. Many online forums discuss this topic. What do you think?

Brother, who is Satoshi Nakamoto, where does he live, is he still alive? Is Satoshi Nakamoto the name of a person, or is it the name of a group that invented Bitcoin? There are many such questions, for which no one knows the correct answer till date. But many are trying to be Satoshi Nakamoto, who are not actually Satoshi Nakamoto. Maybe this is also a failed attempt of those. So stay away from such rumours.

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Quote from: normanhot on July 24, 2024, 04:25:53 PM

I've heard many rumors that Satoshi Nakamoto is of Russian origin and that Bitcoin was created in Russia. Many online forums discuss this topic. What do you think?

Many online forums discuss "the identity of Satoshi", and here in this forum, we discuss it as being a rumored, fake, unnecessary thing to talk about since the identity of Satoshi can't be revealed by anyone. Even if it is revealed in the future, it won't change people's stance on bitcoin.

However, as it currently stands, the revealing of Satoshi's identity is not people's major priority other than buying additional bitcoin and selling at a high price

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Quote from: normanhot on July 24, 2024, 04:25:53 PM

I've heard many rumors that Satoshi Nakamoto is of Russian origin and that Bitcoin was created in Russia. Many online forums discuss this topic. What do you think?

I've also heard that he's an actual Japanese citizen because his name was obviously derived from that country.

Satoshi Nakamoto, can come from anywhere that we imagine him/her/ them from, it can even be from your small neighborhood, nobody can tell. I'm hearing for the first time in this thread about Satoshi, coming from Russia, and why should I argue about this theory when there is no proof to reason otherwise but if someone wants to base their argument on his name, then I can assume that Satoshi Nakamoto, is from Japan. The fact is that Satoshi, has choosing to be anonymous and there is nothing that we can do about that, the important thing is that Satoshi, has made an impact by creating Bitcoin that is changing the naretive of money and investment.

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In my opinion, today no one will believe even the person who really says that he is the real developer of Bitcoin. Too much time has passed since that time, and today it is of no interest to anyone and will not bring much change. Since then, there have been so many rumors and various posts on this topic that the real truth is simply lost against this background.
I believe that behind this technology was a certain group of people, among whom was the main developer, and the technology itself was developed by certain structures, and in order to launch this technology, they spread a lot of rumors and secrets that hid the real truth. Where these people or this person is today, it is difficult to say. We only know the pseudonym, and anyone can hide behind it.
It's been a long time and probably will remain a legend, and may it, in the end, remain so.

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Ah, internet rumors and those spreading it without doubts or fact checking any further... current day's disease!

Satoshi Nakamoto did a pretty good job in hiding his identity, let's just leave it that way. Revealing his identity would be mostly like a death centence, not only because of a presumably mined stash of about 1.1 million bitcoins (see http://satoshiblocks.info/ if you're interested). Criminals and governments won't give him any peace, regardless if he still has the private keys or if he deliberately distroyed them (can't prove the latter!).

I don't believe that Satoshi Nakamoto was a group of people. It is exponentially more difficult to remain silent and hidden as a group than for one individual alone.

Despite very few known transactions, Satoshi Nakamoto never moved any of his coins. He chose to leave and stay anonymous. Show him some respect and abide by his decision! Bitcoin works without him, so leave him alone and in peace.

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Quote from: normanhot on July 24, 2024, 04:25:53 PM

I've heard many rumors that Satoshi Nakamoto is of Russian origin and that Bitcoin was created in Russia. Many online forums discuss this topic. What do you think?

I stop bothering my thoughts with where Satoshi Nakamoto is from, and have decided ever since to rather learn the various ways with which I could use that energy on making a profitable use of his/their invention. Maybe if all of these informations we're seeking for were revealed by Satoshi the government would have used them as a point of division among us to think that biycoinis one strategic means of either Russia or USA trying to gain control of the world through the digital currency. A lot of diverse stories would have ensued, perhaps.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on July 26, 2024, 09:55:27 AM

Quote from: normanhot on July 24, 2024, 04:25:53 PM

I've heard many rumors that Satoshi Nakamoto is of Russian origin and that Bitcoin was created in Russia. Many online forums discuss this topic. What do you think?

Satoshi Nakamoto has posted many messages on this forum. And AFAIK nobody has spotted some russian expressions or a russian way of speaking english, neither from any other non-english speaking country anyway. CMIIW but from what I understood everybody was considering him as a native english speaker. So IMO this is a bad lead to discover his identity, several hypotheses lead to Hal Finney who died 10 years ago or to an informal group to which he belonged. Personally I think this is the most credible hypothesis up to now.

Many talks on these, which are we to accept from one opinion to the other it still remains unknown till date, we only can say what we feel we know, might be correct but more to being incorrect. You made a point, no way him being Russian and no way any of his expression was close to being Russian or maybe he was quite the best on not leaving a trace.

Seems till forever, we never going to find out who really Satoshi is, nothing to bother about because we are participating uprightly to what he worked for and how he would have/love to see people from around the world get involved with what he created, seeing the rate of adoption and how it is becoming legally tendered.

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Quote from: normanhot on July 24, 2024, 04:25:53 PM

I've heard many rumors that Satoshi Nakamoto is of Russian origin and that Bitcoin was created in Russia. Many online forums discuss this topic. What do you think?

People like having such debates around them, its not that bad but I guess that's because what Nakamoto build worked out well, if not he won't matter to the world, but as for me I still dont care if the real nakamoto is a he or she, Asian or American, white or black, I don't care. I am thankful for the existence of Bitcoin because i am able to hide my money well from the banks and the government, I give him credit because of what he build not where he came from.

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