Market drop or crash dont mean economic crash

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 02, 2021, 06:00:43 PM

Dont think the market crash or drop even bigger crash is means economic crash.

Economic crash is when no money left.
So we go back to normal by spring and summer after summer autumn there will be not crash but fake crash.

We need to umdestrstood all the markets are fixed and people who run the markets knows what coming on in 1-2'years

But education is key

No one is running the decentralized market even if a company holds their sticks they are not in the position to alter the values only the people has the power so no individual can't alter anything in the way they wanted but it is possible to manipulate the prices using lot of strategies anyway the history is not going to be the same everytime.

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I agree we should not think that a market crash means an economic crash, because for an economic crash to occur there must be a major event
that makes many countries unable to run their economies normally. Like what happened when in 2020, almost all countries carried out a lockdown
because of the corona virus outbreak, this was what made the economic crash.

But when a market crypto crash that occurred in 2018 did not mean an economic crash. Moreover, the crypto market has little influence on
the world economy, so whatever happens with the crypto market has no effect on the global economy.

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Quote from: jaysabi on January 02, 2021, 10:16:36 PM

The opposite is true as well, an market boom doesn’t mean the economy is healthy. In fact, that’s exactly the case we have. The economy is in tatters because of the pandemic and the stock market hits all time high after all time high. They’re not correlated at all anymore.

Which shows the stock market is nothing more but a casino for the wealthy where they think they are taking rational decisions when in fact they are just as addicted to gambling as anyone else, this market is different, the growth basically comes from investors that are afraid that a crash is coming and they are trying to protect themselves, but in the case of the stock market the price of a stock has almost nothing to do with the company that is supposedly associated with and the only reason the stock market is growing is because of all the money governments are printing.

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Nothing nice about money its dirty but hey its just business just business
We need to learn the rules know the rules and win the game crypto and stocks are the financial game

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Quote from: jaysabi on January 02, 2021, 10:16:36 PM

The opposite is true as well, an market boom doesn’t mean the economy is healthy. In fact, that’s exactly the case we have. The economy is in tatters because of the pandemic and the stock market hits all time high after all time high. They’re not correlated at all anymore.

Which shows the stock market is nothing more but a casino for the wealthy where they think they are taking rational decisions when in fact they are just as addicted to gambling as anyone else, this market is different, the growth basically comes from investors that are afraid that a crash is coming and they are trying to protect themselves, but in the case of the stock market the price of a stock has almost nothing to do with the company that is supposedly associated with and the only reason the stock market is growing is because of all the money governments are printing.

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 02, 2021, 06:00:43 PM

Dont think the market crash or drop even bigger crash is means economic crash.

Economic crash is when no money left.
So we go back to normal by spring and summer after summer autumn there will be not crash but fake crash.

We need to umdestrstood all the markets are fixed and people who run the markets knows what coming on in 1-2'years

But education is key

I don't really agree with this conspiracy theory. Yes, a few big sharks do know how to play the market but all that is limited in the shorter term when it comes to 1-2 years all of it is pretty dynamic there are tons of variables that decide the shape of the market. Economic Crash generally isn't characterized when no money is left. It's characterized as when there is an abundance of the flow of money in the economy but the same is still not able to create demand at aggregate level or money has shifted hands from that of poo to that of rich and the distribution of Income has become pretty worse. Otherwise, only hyper inflation is a situation that can be called an economic crash.

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Well, honestly, I have the opposite thought. We are living in a modern world where things connecting with others. You can see that many different parts of the world associating tightly with each other creating a huge place where people can freely work, buy, trade and study. Therefore, if markets drop significantly, I surely affect the economy.

People doubted that covid-19 will affect the world but as you see, it changes the world on a global scale. Dangerous as it was, it has shaped the world and people have to adapt to the new world orders. My advice is to always be aware of everything. Crises can happen at any place, any time and in any form

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 02, 2021, 06:00:43 PM

Dont think the market crash or drop even bigger crash is means economic crash.

Economic crash is when no money left.
So we go back to normal by spring and summer after summer autumn there will be not crash but fake crash.

We need to umdestrstood all the markets are fixed and people who run the markets knows what coming on in 1-2'years

But education is key

A market crash doesn't always mean economic crash,but the Great Depression and the 2007-2009 recession started when Wall Street crashed.
Nowadays,the financial markets are pretty much independent from the economy,because the central banks are pumping them with cheap loans and newly printed cash.
What do you mean by "there will be not crash,but fake crash"?There's no such thing as a fake crash.
I don't believe that all the markets are fully controlled and market price movements are determined with 100% accuracy.However,the bankers can manipulate the markets to some extent.

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Even if the economic crash does not relate to the crypto world, we may see the crypto market can go down to following what happens in real life. But the crypto market will always go down and up back to the high price, and that will be like that every day, no matter if the economy can back to normal again. We are still at the pandemic, which makes the economy in many countries a problem, but fortunately, the crypto market helps us to survive and still make money.

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Market drop is not the single reason that will lead to economic crash. Market drop is just one of the many factors that can lead to economic crash. That means it can be a factor if it persist maybe because the government has no money to inject back into the market. When government has no money, then it indicates that the economy is crashing or has crashed.

For market drop, is an indication of what is happening within the economy which can get investors to withdraw interest. When interest is withdrawn, the vibes in the market goes down because of lack of buying and selling and such withdrawal of interest may be temporal or permanent depending on the situation of the economy. So market drop shows what is happening in the economy and if all is good with the economy, the government is expected to provide some stimulus to bring back confidence and interest to the market.

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 02, 2021, 06:00:43 PM

Dont think the market crash or drop even bigger crash is means economic crash.

Economic crash is when no money left.

Obviously the market crash doesn't mean economic crash since the cryptocurrency industry has little or no significant on the global economy but that can't be said about other market like the stock and forex market as both are correlated, one event leads to the other.

There's a market crash when the economy is experiencing some recession and a sudden market crash could cause an economy downfall. When we experienced market crash in the industry, it simply means funds are been taken off the market either to reinvest in other market or for savings. Economy crash doesn't mean no money is left. It could be as a result of job loss, unemployment rate increasing or recession etc.

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It just means that a lot of people might have lost their money towards a scam or something. It cannot crash unless the owner themselves dump all their holdings, whether, in stocks or crypto, they could actually do that. If you talk about a market drop, it doesn't literally mean an economic crash. What happened with last year's pandemic is a crash, but it doesn't necessarily mean there's no money. People are just cashing out because of what is happening around the world.

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 02, 2021, 06:00:43 PM

Dont think the market crash or drop even bigger crash is means economic crash.

Economic crash is when no money left.
So we go back to normal by spring and summer after summer autumn there will be not crash but fake crash.

We need to umdestrstood all the markets are fixed and people who run the markets knows what coming on in 1-2'years

But education is key

This is true to some point, because every government have everything preplanned and funds allocated for the same. The economic crisis and inflation happens with the countries where this gets lacking. Another thing when natural calamities, pandemics, war and all happens automatically the country is forced to spend funds in excess. This is where the economy of a country begins to crash and the same results in the suffering of the common people.

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 02, 2021, 06:00:43 PM

Dont think the market crash or drop even bigger crash is means economic crash.

Economic crash is when no money left.
So we go back to normal by spring and summer after summer autumn there will be not crash but fake crash.

We need to umdestrstood all the markets are fixed and people who run the markets knows what coming on in 1-2'years

But education is key

Plus market surge doesn't mean economic prosperity either. The United States stock market is a perfect illustration of how the Federal Reserve printed billions of dollars post-2008, and used it to manipulate their stock market to make it look like economic prosperity.

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 02, 2021, 06:00:43 PM

Dont think the market crash or drop even bigger crash is means economic crash.

Economic crash is when no money left.
So we go back to normal by spring and summer after summer autumn there will be not crash but fake crash.

We need to umdestrstood all the markets are fixed and people who run the markets knows what coming on in 1-2'years

But education is key

Market and economy is so interrelated that these crash even if they happen they will go though the same page. If market crashes, so will the economy and therefore we cannot truthfully say that market and economy is different.

Plus I don't understand what you mean by *No money left*?

Government can always print more but thing is what is the value of that money. Plus all this pandemic and coronavirus it's haunting the whole economic situation. Plus economic situation is not as simple. It's dependent on 1000 things. One of them is the market situation. There are many factors ex:- GDP, job opportunities etc. Therefore we cannot entirely blame it on the market.

If market crashes , it's more or so interrelated with both domestic and international companies too and therefore we have to analyze before we make such statement.

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Quote from: so98nn on January 03, 2021, 06:37:06 AM

I don’t get it, when you economic crash is when no money left? What that suppose to mean in first place. There will be no instances when world money will come to an end or any specific nation will run out of money!!

Money is always there and it’s in circulation by us the user. Big industry to government to tax payer all of them has it all the time because you can’t even get water for free in this world.

Economic crash is when the particular nation has to use its reserves to overcome the financial stress. When businesses are running out of their routine workload and entering into crisis. When a tax payer looses his job. When money circulation stops. Then we can call it as economic crisis.

You call economic crisis when regular life stops, we call economic crisis when big companies do not make the money they used to make. You want to know a secret? In 2020 the billionaires of the world got 31% richer. This is a true fact and you can check it on bloomberg billionaire tracker as well, they have made 31% return this year, and thats the highest ever recorded since bloomberg started to keep track of it.

So basically in 2020 when the whole world was on fire, we all lost jobs and we all got poorer, many people died , many people became homeless, when everything financially became soooo much worse, these billionaires became 31% richer at the same year. This is why they are not saying there is the financial crisis you and I feel, look at financial channels they all say "economic recovery" right now because stocks are up, but nobody cares how many tens of millions of people are out of a job.

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in terms of the crypto market drop or a big correction, yes it does not mean an economic crash as the crypto market is only one part of many sectors of the world economy, even if bitcoin and altcoins crash 90%, it will damage crypto holders and community but the rest of the world economy will be fine. However, it seems unlikely to happen, if bitcoin price plummet from $33k to $20k, it's a market crash but seems normal, if it crashes to below $10k, then something is wrong.

Economic collapse is any of a broad range of bad economic conditions, ranging from severe, prolonged depression with high bankruptcy rates and high unemployment (such as the Great Depression of the 1930s), to a breakdown in normal commerce caused by hyperinflation (such as in Weimar Germany in the 1920s), or even an economically caused sharp rise in the death rate and perhaps even a decline in the population. Hyperinflation, wars, and revolutions cause hoarding of essentials and disruption of markets. source

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 02, 2021, 06:00:43 PM

But education is key

All countries are competing and encouraging people to continue to the faculty of economics, That's the main goal to know the development of the economy in each country, what you say is suitable has nothing to do with market crashes.

In general, the cause of the economic crisis can occur with several factors.
• One country's swelling debt is also a factor in a devastated economy, markets are not.
• like the current covid-19 incident, this is also a factor in hampering economic growth in each country, the market is not.
And many other factors that can influence an economic collapse.

The market has a very large effect on stocks and capital. This deals with investors, government institutions and companies, without a real market people can still do online economic growth as it is today.

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Quote from: OpenCryptoSystem on January 02, 2021, 06:00:43 PM

Dont think the market crash or drop even bigger crash is means economic crash.

Economic crash is when no money left.
So we go back to normal by spring and summer after summer autumn there will be not crash but fake crash.

We need to umdestrstood all the markets are fixed and people who run the markets knows what coming on in 1-2'years

Of course, we have seen this before, even after ww2, when everything was ruin, there are countries who recovered very quick. What more if there is an economic crash. This pandemic brings the best and worst in our economics so I would say that recovery will be on its way.

And again, although there is a threat of a second strain of the virus, I think countries are going to be well prepared so at least the effect will be minimal and not that huge compare to when the news broke out, there are countries who didn't respond correctly resulting in a economic disaster, but they have also slowly bounce back.

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Economic crash is when no money left.

Don't that will never happen because the government prints money enormously.

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Of course OP you are right.

Market crash can occur when there's a threat of war or an outside threat, or shutdown, political revolt, things like that.
This doesn't mean the economy will stop functioning and money will lose value.

Money can lose value without any market crashes or government shutdowns. These things can occur along each other or separately.

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