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update video to show that the technology work and is coming along nicely.
Check out this video of me using the tech show how well it works for recognising opjects.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TlDE69Tmms
Topic: Market for turning real life objects to 3D digital assets (NFTs/Metaverse) (Read 321 times)
October 16, 2022, 07:46:59 AM
September 22, 2022, 06:10:23 AM
Don't even know what to expect in the future if even now literally everyone can create their own virtual space in DREEM and do whatever they want there. From hanging out with buddies to running entire online art shows.
September 16, 2022, 03:42:43 PM
Back in the day people believed that if you owned an image that would have some value, but they forgot that there was a big deal about it and that is why they used to worth something. Bored Ape Yacht Club still goes for 100k+ each at the lowest price point, hell CryptoPunks doesn't even have anyone selling them right now unless you offer something insane.
So at the end of the day, they were the big names and they made sense, if you keep on spewing like bears, tigers, cats, dogs, zombies, aliens, elves, hobbits etc etc but keep on that "different type of same base with 10k collection" type of deal that we are so accustomed to, then you are going to fail to sell it unless you spend like 50k on marketing.
So at the end of the day, they were the big names and they made sense, if you keep on spewing like bears, tigers, cats, dogs, zombies, aliens, elves, hobbits etc etc but keep on that "different type of same base with 10k collection" type of deal that we are so accustomed to, then you are going to fail to sell it unless you spend like 50k on marketing.
September 15, 2022, 02:34:22 AM
In my opinion, that's the reason why the project is based of recognition. Copies can be ruled out of the blockchain.
However, the initial rights on 3D object might still be arguable.
However, the initial rights on 3D object might still be arguable.
Initial rights for anything as a permissionless token holder are shaky at best. You would need whole new approach.
It doesn't seem like that. The asset is defined by a bunch of properties of the object including oner's biometric data. So it's not a classic NFT, it's rather a multi-object identity providing zero knowledge proof. So, the asset contains all the data you can make a deal with even offline. Blockchain is just a storage capable to protect the identity from copying in digital (1 pixel problem solves this way).
The only question i see is the initial origin of the object. It' seems to be solvable, though.
September 14, 2022, 08:14:50 AM
not everything has to be digitized. some things we can virtualize will make it easier for a lot of work. such as NFT for corporate ID or access or certain access. Metaverse for those who want to connect feels real in a virtual form so you don't have to come to work or make presentations.
September 14, 2022, 03:00:34 AM
NFTs trend is over bro.
You can feel free to change any 3D into NFTs, the big question "How you're gonna sell it ?". You're from no-body and most the time who are successfully selling their own NFTs is from Artist with have a powers (Follower).
Regular person is hard to sell their NFTs.
You can feel free to change any 3D into NFTs, the big question "How you're gonna sell it ?". You're from no-body and most the time who are successfully selling their own NFTs is from Artist with have a powers (Follower).
Regular person is hard to sell their NFTs.
Yeah! no matter how good it is, it's really hard to sell them right now without anything valuable stories behind it or some hype by some of the known people. Your art will become just trash and no one will get interested in it. Metaverse is heading in a different direction where it creates new hype and trend. We should know how to take some ride whenever there is a new trend but of course in a moderation manner without being exaggerated and risking our money. As of now, NFT arts are not the hype anymore like how it was back then.
September 13, 2022, 11:43:36 AM
One challenge which hasn't been solved yet from the project is the proof of ownership since in theory any who scans something first would be the owner.
Don't you think that this is main issue with it? Instead of making a project and hoping you find a smart contract solution that has been a holy grail of securities that everyone is trying to crack seems kind of a distant dream. It's a major problem that can't be easily solved as you need code that doesn't even exist yet. Closest i can think of is Dusk but they are still on testnet phase. I think you have started the development from the wrong end.
In my opinion, that's the reason why the project is based of recognition. Copies can be ruled out of the blockchain.
However, the initial rights on 3D object might still be arguable.
However, the initial rights on 3D object might still be arguable.
Initial rights for anything as a permissionless token holder are shaky at best. You would need whole new approach.
My thinking on the ownership topic is that you have the option for a multi Hash ID consisting of multiple items.
The whitepaper quotes the following
“ • Hash 1 = object shape + weight + clarity
• Hash 2 = 1st object shape + 2nd object shape + owners iris scan
• Hash 3 = object shape + weight + owner’s fingerprint “
So yes maybe someone has the copy but I’m guessing the original could come with an additional certificate etc.
Similar to how 2 factor authentication works but maybe now 3 or 4 factor authentication.
You could also develop dApps/websites as an authenticity check etc since we are talking about a permissionless coin. The framework is there to develop the required ecosystem around it potentially?
Feel free to join the discord or the ANN thread and share your concerns or other feedback.
September 13, 2022, 10:35:32 AM
One challenge which hasn't been solved yet from the project is the proof of ownership since in theory any who scans something first would be the owner.
Don't you think that this is main issue with it? Instead of making a project and hoping you find a smart contract solution that has been a holy grail of securities that everyone is trying to crack seems kind of a distant dream. It's a major problem that can't be easily solved as you need code that doesn't even exist yet. Closest i can think of is Dusk but they are still on testnet phase. I think you have started the development from the wrong end.
In my opinion, that's the reason why the project is based of recognition. Copies can be ruled out of the blockchain.
However, the initial rights on 3D object might still be arguable.
However, the initial rights on 3D object might still be arguable.
Initial rights for anything as a permissionless token holder are shaky at best. You would need whole new approach.
September 11, 2022, 05:04:03 AM
People are running out of gimmicks to put out to the crypto market that they think making everything digital would be a hit. No, I don't think there will be a lot of interest in this. Everyone can literally make anything 3d if they take some time learning Blender. This'll just end up like NFTs,, where people think that digital art collections are good as investments, and they slowly watch their profit wither over time just because no one is really interested in something that can literally be copied and pasted.
In my opinion, that's the reason why the project is based of recognition. Copies can be ruled out of the blockchain.
However, the initial rights on 3D object might still be arguable.
September 10, 2022, 12:33:49 PM
Ofcourse. in this topic you are talking about clearly show us the next big usercase with NFTs and VR technology . there will be many many new projects on the market which is trying to give what you are talking about. this is a big topic and great technology . if any project is able to make it true ,definitely there will be a huge market for that project . you may remember how sandbox and mana pumped to moon and how big market it acquire . this is a bigger topic than just NFTs and metaverse which must use VR and AI technologies.
September 10, 2022, 12:22:05 PM
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As much as I appreciate interacting with the dev, I would have to pass for now plus doing stuffs in Blender is just a side hobby for me. I currently just tread around the forum for few hours to watch how Bitcoin innovates throughout the year. Though this 3D stuffs is really something especially that there are mining involve to it, I cannot say that I would be too invested for now in this.Still appreciate the work regardless though. Good luck!
September 10, 2022, 06:46:13 AM
People are running out of gimmicks to put out to the crypto market that they think making everything digital would be a hit. No, I don't think there will be a lot of interest in this. Everyone can literally make anything 3d if they take some time learning Blender. This'll just end up like NFTs,, where people think that digital art collections are good as investments, and they slowly watch their profit wither over time just because no one is really interested in something that can literally be copied and pasted.
Of course anyone can try and generate a 3D file but humans love Shortcuts and if you have an app that can do this for you the majority of people would use this.
This is more than an NFT gimmick as this is just one application but another application as stated in the whitepaper is “ Password, recoverable by means of scanning the object”
Imagine having a particular item of extreme importance that only you know plus your fingerprint being your password. This would mean that only you can recover it and it would be difficult for anyone to hack since you probably don‘t even need to write it down to remember. Just have to make sure the item doesn‘t get thrown away.
I think with a bit of creativity the application will be much more than just NFTs. Just to add I still think the 3DPass NFTs will be the next evolution for NFTs in general with respect to uniqueness and not having copycats on the 3DPass blockchain due to the recognition algorithm.
September 09, 2022, 05:35:53 PM
You can do that last year but not that gonna trend anymore. As they say, the trend for NFTs is now gone and it's not the same anymore. You may try if you want to.
But most likely the result is just going to discourage you and that will show you if you ever try to do what you're thinking in your mind because there could be no more buyers of new NFTs.
But most likely the result is just going to discourage you and that will show you if you ever try to do what you're thinking in your mind because there could be no more buyers of new NFTs.
September 09, 2022, 05:24:19 PM
People are running out of gimmicks to put out to the crypto market that they think making everything digital would be a hit. No, I don't think there will be a lot of interest in this. Everyone can literally make anything 3d if they take some time learning Blender. This'll just end up like NFTs,, where people think that digital art collections are good as investments, and they slowly watch their profit wither over time just because no one is really interested in something that can literally be copied and pasted.
September 09, 2022, 12:16:29 PM
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It is innovative, but I do not see any good reasons to really "invest" into it. I have a quite of a knowledge in Blender and 3D modelling, but through a little bit of displacement and mixture of gloss and emission node, people could just copy and replicate that 3D model easily. I understand that the technology might still be in development though.I can recall a lot of Facebook about Metaverse VR and I was like meh to it. Sure, it could be the future, but it just does not click for me. Not sure about this one though.
Not really fan of NFTs though, but still this looked cool for me.
Not sure sounds like you’re open minded to the concept. Why not add your expertise as a community driven project to increase the security from such cheap duplicates? I encourage you to directly interact with the devs in the ANN thread or in Discord they are very responsive.
I know that when I’m currently mining I get a few rejects because the shape I’m trying to add to the blockchain already exists. I guess it would be impossible to stop people from remodeling but the catch should be to force them to make a significant enough change that it is easy to spot with the naked eye. This would also be one of the first things I would try to see how much alteration I need for it to get accepted on the 3DPass blockchain as an original. For example if I have a baguette and cut it in half would it differentiate the full and half size Version.
Also think about simple 2D items/drawings the recognition algorithmi should work quite well here.
September 09, 2022, 11:57:03 AM
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It is innovative, but I do not see any good reasons to really "invest" into it. I have a quite of a knowledge in Blender and 3D modelling, but through a little bit of displacement and mixture of gloss and emission node, people could just copy and replicate that 3D model easily. I understand that the technology might still be in development though.I can recall a lot of Facebook about Metaverse VR and I was like meh to it. Sure, it could be the future, but it just does not click for me. Not sure about this one though.
Not really fan of NFTs though, but still this looked cool for me.
September 09, 2022, 11:00:19 AM
NFT is like a bubble, at first, it was attractive but when it is exposed to the heat, it will blow, and that is what happens to nft, all of the crypto enthusiasts now is back to the original foundation, crypto with innovation and offers a variety of features and of course security, scalability and strong system.
September 09, 2022, 12:24:04 AM
What are your thoughts on this topic?
Is there a market for scanning real life objects and turning them into 3D files on the blockchain.
I have made a video in twitter about this and think this tech could be revolutionary and open up a big new market.
https://twitter.com/a_mo1111_/status/1566172544834707457?s=46&t=DAOqa9wC9OkY9FazxfP5kQ
Here is the link to the original ANN thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/3dpass-3d-objects-tokenization-decentralized-platform-new-proof-of-scan-algo-5382009
I will be direct I do not see too much of a need for something like this, but I'm not a visionary, there are many things that have appeared in the market of cryptocurrencies that I found to be unnecessary and despite my opinion they became incredibly popular, so if you really believe in what you are doing you have no other option but to do your best and see if you're actually right and people support your idea that this is somehow revolutionary. Is there a market for scanning real life objects and turning them into 3D files on the blockchain.
I have made a video in twitter about this and think this tech could be revolutionary and open up a big new market.
https://twitter.com/a_mo1111_/status/1566172544834707457?s=46&t=DAOqa9wC9OkY9FazxfP5kQ
Here is the link to the original ANN thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/3dpass-3d-objects-tokenization-decentralized-platform-new-proof-of-scan-algo-5382009
September 08, 2022, 06:17:19 AM
I have made a video in twitter about this and think this tech could be revolutionary and open up a big new market.
I think the idea is great and cool however the term revolutionary cant be attained that easily. Yes the platform is cool and seeing the thread can really say the devs are serious with its concept. But if its gonna bw converted into nft, something more in demand in use case should be prioritize here and also must think on how the ecosystem would boost and create incomes too to make it stable. Anyway, the project is superb and having additional features could be a game changer for this too. first of all thanks for constructive feedback and please post your suggestions in the ANN thread. I know the devs see this as a community driven project and any proposal get's a response either on the ANN thread or active discord community. A feature that I proposed for the recognition of 2D drawings will be included in the future. The other possibility would be to develop any ideas into a dApp to generate those additional features.
NFT is the way to grab everyones attention but my thoughts are that I see this tech as more of a highway from the real world into the digital world. Just look at the amount of hype with the metaverse and if there was a tech that could be the gatekeeper of this highway with respect to originality etc. Currently for the ecosystem I have only ever thought about sales but maybe there is something I am overseeing.
September 08, 2022, 06:03:38 AM
NFTs trend is over bro.
You can feel free to change any 3D into NFTs, the big question "How you're gonna sell it ?". You're from no-body and most the time who are successfully selling their own NFTs is from Artist with have a powers (Follower).
Regular person is hard to sell their NFTs.
You can feel free to change any 3D into NFTs, the big question "How you're gonna sell it ?". You're from no-body and most the time who are successfully selling their own NFTs is from Artist with have a powers (Follower).
Regular person is hard to sell their NFTs.
NFT is more of the buzzword that get'S everyones attention but this could apply to a lot more than just regular NFT.
see my reply to o48o above why I think it goes beyond NFTs and also how to avoid duplication/copycats.
If this concept takes of like I hope then it could mean that someone has a real life asset get's it on the 3DPass blockchain and has ownership in real life and on a blockchain.
Real life items get sold all the time and with this sale you could also sell it on the blockchain.
I encourage you to read the whitepaper https://3dpass.org/3DPass_white_paper.pdf
of course I could be completely in the wrong but if I'm right and 3DP becomes the official highway from the real world into the digital world then I think the potential is huge.
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