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Topic: Market has peaked, sell off incoming. - page 6. (Read 13732 times)

legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1019
July 30, 2013, 03:11:20 AM
#62
effing fractal layers.

so, could your current counts for the I-II-III waves (in july) possibly be an ABC corrective trend of the bear 5-wave count changing trends into a new bull wave I? I  emphasize possibly, I do agree with your wave III count considering the market psychology


You lost me.  effing fractals indeed.

If you asking if there is a possible bearish count that could invalidate this count, I would answer that while it is possible, I have a hard time overlooking the strong 5 structure off the recent low around $65 that I have labelled Wave 1.  I suppose my "Wave 1" could be Wave A of an ABC correction, and we could be finishing C here.  But I don't see the overexuberance yet that I would expect at the finish of C.

There is also the guideline that waves 2 and 4 alternate between simple and complex.  In the big-picture count Wave 2 was certainly a complex correction, so Wave 4 should be relatively simple.

I meant something more like this:


i think my question is, when you have an upwards ABC corrective trend of say a main bear trend, could that ABC be inside a trend-changing wave 1? or is ABC not even used at all if you're counting a bull wave?

edit: i think I figured it out. ABC are used simply to denote the corrective bounces of a continuing trend, and you start a new count for the opposite trend, right?
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
July 30, 2013, 03:09:43 AM
#61
effing fractal layers.

so, could your current counts for the I-II-III waves (in july) possibly be an ABC corrective trend of the bear 5-wave count changing trends into a new bull wave I? I  emphasize possibly, I do agree with your wave III count considering the market psychology


You lost me.  effing fractals indeed.

If you asking if there is a possible bearish count that could invalidate this count, I would answer that while it is possible, I have a hard time overlooking the strong 5 structure off the recent low around $65 that I have labelled Wave 1.  I suppose my "Wave 1" could be Wave A of an ABC correction, and we could be finishing C here.  But I don't see the overexuberance yet that I would expect at the finish of C.

There is also the guideline that waves 2 and 4 alternate between simple and complex.  In the big-picture count Wave 2 was certainly a complex correction, so Wave 4 should be relatively simple.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1019
July 30, 2013, 02:34:22 AM
#60
effing fractal layers.

so, could your current counts for the I-II-III waves (in july) possibly be an ABC corrective trend of the bear 5-wave count changing trends into a new bull wave I? I  emphasize possibly, I do agree with your wave III count considering the market psychology
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
July 30, 2013, 01:55:05 AM
#59
notme do you have a chart of your wavecount that covers the beginning and end of the 2013 bubble?

Wave 1 ended ~ $32, wave 2 ended at ~ $2, wave 3 ended at ~ $266, Wave 4 ended at $65.  We are beginning wave 5.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1019
July 30, 2013, 01:36:12 AM
#58
notme do you have a chart of your wavecount that covers the beginning and end of the 2013 bubble?

i'm curious of what the bullish count of the rise of 2013 looks like.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 502
July 30, 2013, 12:54:03 AM
#57
While MTgox has withdrawal problems the price is going to stay artificial high, and possibly bubble slightly as people use alternative means to cash out. (by buying bitcoins from Gox, pushing price higher and selling on other exchanges)

That happened before when gox reached 115 briefly a few weeks ago while other exchange were hovering below 100.  However, exchange rate at other exchanges are also rising this time around.

Yeah I think they stay slightly pegged to each other, most people seeing coins priced $15 higher on another exchange will take that as a clear buying signal.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
July 30, 2013, 12:49:27 AM
#56
While MTgox has withdrawal problems the price is going to stay artificial high, and possibly bubble slightly as people use alternative means to cash out. (by buying bitcoins from Gox, pushing price higher and selling on other exchanges)

That happened before when gox reached 115 briefly a few weeks ago while other exchange were hovering below 100.  However, exchange rate at other exchanges are also rising this time around.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 502
July 29, 2013, 11:57:24 PM
#55
While MTgox has withdrawal problems the price is going to stay artificial high, and possibly bubble slightly as people use alternative means to cash out. (by buying bitcoins from Gox, pushing price higher and selling on other exchanges)
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
July 29, 2013, 10:51:36 PM
#54
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_wave_principle#Elliott_Wave_personality_and_characteristics

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Wave 3: Wave three is usually the largest and most powerful wave in a trend (although some research suggests that in commodity markets, wave five is the largest). The news is now positive and fundamental analysts start to raise earnings estimates. Prices rise quickly, corrections are short-lived and shallow. Anyone looking to "get in on a pullback" will likely miss the boat. As wave three starts, the news is probably still bearish, and most market players remain negative; but by wave three's midpoint, "the crowd" will often join the new bullish trend. Wave three often extends wave one by a ratio of 1.618:1.
legendary
Activity: 1834
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July 29, 2013, 10:24:31 PM
#53
thank you  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1904
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July 29, 2013, 10:22:52 PM
#52
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
July 29, 2013, 10:08:25 PM
#51
~ $92.50 then we run for $104

Well the bears disappoint slightly, but the correction bottomed at $93 and then wave 1 of 3 of 3 off the $65 bottom is probably finished at $99.9.  Now we have a small corrective wave followed by 3 of 3 of 3.  Students of Elliot Wave know what that means.  Wink

Bears underperform again.  Wave 1 extended to finish at $102.85.  Corrective wave 2 of 3 of 3 is nearing completion and then we well have our 3/3/3 off the $65 bottom.

I'm a visual learner....

legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1019
July 29, 2013, 10:05:43 PM
#50
~ $92.50 then we run for $104

Well the bears disappoint slightly, but the correction bottomed at $93 and then wave 1 of 3 of 3 off the $65 bottom is probably finished at $99.9.  Now we have a small corrective wave followed by 3 of 3 of 3.  Students of Elliot Wave know what that means.  Wink

Bears underperform again.  Wave 1 extended to finish at $102.85.  Corrective wave 2 of 3 of 3 is nearing completion and then we well have our 3/3/3 off the $65 bottom.

I'm a visual learner....
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
July 29, 2013, 09:50:19 PM
#49
~ $92.50 then we run for $104

Well the bears disappoint slightly, but the correction bottomed at $93 and then wave 1 of 3 of 3 off the $65 bottom is probably finished at $99.9.  Now we have a small corrective wave followed by 3 of 3 of 3.  Students of Elliot Wave know what that means.  Wink

Bears underperform again.  Wave 1 extended to finish at $102.85.  Corrective wave 2 of 3 of 3 is nearing completion and then we well have our 3/3/3 off the $65 bottom.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1024
July 29, 2013, 03:36:15 PM
#48
The market seems to be stabilizing. Anything above $ 100 is bullish. However I don't think we will see a true uptrend yet. Needs 3-4 more months I think.

ya.ya.yo!
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1147
The revolution will be monetized!
July 29, 2013, 02:50:59 PM
#47
Also you'll see I pegged Sunday/Monday - I'm working on Tuesday and Wednesday right now. Thursday is not looking so good though, looks like another dip. Won't really know until later today when I can get my hands on more data. We could start seeing a dip as early as Wednesday.
Maybe I'm misreading, but how did you "peg" it? The market did not peak and rather than a sell off, the price of a bitcoin has gone up.
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 0
July 29, 2013, 06:45:48 AM
#46
Also you'll see I pegged Sunday/Monday - I'm working on Tuesday and Wednesday right now. Thursday is not looking so good though, looks like another dip. Won't really know until later today when I can get my hands on more data. We could start seeing a dip as early as Wednesday.
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 0
July 29, 2013, 06:42:42 AM
#45
So Grabble, which saturday were you talking about exactly?
You must feel pretty goddamn stupid right now i assume and in the future you will think twice about postings predictions as a fact, right?

Also since you were so sure about this big sell off i take it you sold all your Bitcoins yesterday to be ahead of the big drop?
Please confirm.

I sold all of my coins at $96.70 and bought back in around $94.

The drop wasn't as big as I had thought, I don't feel stupid though. I'm still working on magnitude but I've got direction down.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1019
July 29, 2013, 12:32:30 AM
#44
pleeeease kraken, coinsetter, coinlab, et. al., fill the void before gox goes down!!

in related news, why did mtgox never follow through on their deal with coinlab?

There's a widespread rumor that they wanted to but Kapeles had to hand over the USD banking pages from his Filofax and unfortunately due to an incident regarding a coffee spill the pages became illegible hence the reason for reneging on the agreement and the recent delays on USD withdrawals.

@joe2012. Yes!!! www.blogspot.com/kapelescoffeeshockwithdrawalnightmare 

 Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 502
July 29, 2013, 12:22:30 AM
#43
pleeeease kraken, coinsetter, coinlab, et. al., fill the void before gox goes down!!

in related news, why did mtgox never follow through on their deal with coinlab?

There's a widespread rumor that they wanted to but Kapeles had to hand over the USD banking pages from his Filofax and unfortunately due to an incident regarding a coffee spill the pages became illegible hence the reason for reneging on the agreement and the recent delays on USD withdrawals.

@joe2012. Yes!!! www.blogspot.com/kapelescoffeeshockwithdrawalnightmare 
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