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April 22, 2020, 11:55:34 AM
One of the major problems for small traders today is market manipulation and this is one of the reasons why they make wrong decisions after analyzing the market from time to timeThis manipulation has become one of the major problems in this market and it is a big problem for a trader and that is why I think one should never trade when one gets the news of EidAt least one trader should never do
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April 22, 2020, 11:35:57 AM
For this kind of project this situation can't be easily acceptable but we can't declare this is manipulate. After we overcome last bullrun, I found so many coin which are listed in average exchange but pump was huge even more good than top exchange. Average or low volume exchange listed coin literally down most of the time, better check daily volume.
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April 22, 2020, 09:24:54 AM
After 7 days from the first pump, I think a lot of traders would agree this coin clearly shown some sign of manipulation, pump and dump scheme. The price going sideway even with trade history show orders filled. And with an unknow exchange like vindax, I won't trust or put any cent in this coin. Better yet, it isn't good to invest in coin that already hit +700% in 24h.
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April 22, 2020, 05:57:35 AM
Always check if the volume is real. Its not that hard to see a 700% reflection of increase but the trades are not filling thr gap of current sell orders. How to know this? Click Trade History and pay attention to the volume or quantity of the tokens sold and also check if the price set by seller has been skipped to execute. Exchange like these are the worse cause they fake the trading volume of any coins on their exchange just to mentioned that their IEO of that project pumps too.
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April 22, 2020, 03:21:09 AM

Is this real? or just manipulation of prices in the market?
which makes me a little doubtful, because the token is listed in the shade exchange!

but if this is really real, How lucky for you to have participated in the OKSchain gift project.

To be honest, we've seen lots of coins have more sudden price surge than this in the past and after much consideration it's either turn out to be real or manipulation. I can't deny the fact that this look a bit shady as the whole market is experiencing a down trend so seing a coin have such huge increase is questioning. By the way, if it was a manipulation, the price ought to have bounce back since such moves don't last but seeing the graph you posted, it is hard to arrive at a conclusion since much detail information didn't follow suit
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April 21, 2020, 08:34:54 PM
I am seeing this is manipulated, why? these exchanges probit,coinsbit,vindax are sh*t exchanges I have a very bad experience with those exchanges especially probit, so many bots it can dump or pump the coin/token. I am holding a token that is listed there it was dump 99%. If they can do it they can also pump a particular coin with fake trades. Be careful with those exchanges.
yes I totally agree that you say because the coin price movements in an exchange place a lot of manipulation because they want to make the exchange place look crowded and look to have high trading volume because that way can make traders and many investors to trade in the exchange place .
true that price manipulation is usually to attract investors to buy the coin and trade there, I sometimes avoid manipulation like that because it is risky, usually I wait a few days to see the normal price
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April 21, 2020, 07:03:51 PM
This will be something hard to do, most especially if the project team is the one selling. Such token will continue to dump until there is nothing meaning, left to sell to.
 A lot of projects have done this and they are still doing it. They can definitely manipulate prices, to attract investors and make them buy. It is very risky because they are disposing of off their tokens while taking investors' main coin. i.e, their token for your BTC.
Then, we shouldn't have to consider buying new coins instead, looking for old ones. This kind of scheme isn't new to us, they belong to the dump and pump groups that actually still exist in the crypto community. We can't expect them to stop their doings but we could think about being aggressive.

Yeah, it was really eye-catching to the investors when they saw a project that been in the hypes but it wonders why that they don't invest this project is that because they know of its ends and they can't be trick again.
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April 21, 2020, 06:53:08 PM
Without much proof it is hard to tell if a coin is being manipulated much in an exchange. However, like someone suggested, it is wise to take your time and observe the charts and trading volume of the coin for a couple of days before jumping on the train to buy

This will be something hard to do, most especially if the project team is the one selling. Such token will continue to dump until there is nothing meaning, left to sell to.
 A lot of projects have done this and they are still doing it. They can definitely manipulate prices, to attract investors and make them buy. It is very risky because they are disposing of off their tokens while taking investors' main coin. i.e, their token for your BTC.
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April 21, 2020, 06:50:16 PM
I am seeing this is manipulated, why? these exchanges probit,coinsbit,vindax are sh*t exchanges I have a very bad experience with those exchanges especially probit, so many bots it can dump or pump the coin/token. I am holding a token that is listed there it was dump 99%. If they can do it they can also pump a particular coin with fake trades. Be careful with those exchanges.
yes I totally agree that you say because the coin price movements in an exchange place a lot of manipulation because they want to make the exchange place look crowded and look to have high trading volume because that way can make traders and many investors to trade in the exchange place .
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April 21, 2020, 06:41:52 PM
What is the importance of manipulation or not? as long as we can attend the party? the bounty hunter who followed the campaign would be happy. Differences in demand and supply look reasonable, I think it's not fake, although it may be manipulated by some holders who have many tokens. It could be that the development team is really taking a strategic step, supported by a pump and dump so that it can rise very sharply.

Even so it looks vulnerable, don't be FOMO and hope that a similar history takes place in the same place. Pump and dump game, as many members explained above.
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April 21, 2020, 05:31:41 PM
Recently I saw tokens generated from the bounty project 4 months ago and it was very unexpected that the price of the OKS $ 0.0239 token increased very sharply and volume in 24 hours (+ 718.94%).




Exchange:

1. https://www.probit.com/app/exchange/OKS-BTC


2. https://vindax.com/exchange-base.html?symbol=OKS_ETH


Is this real? or just manipulation of prices in the market?
which makes me a little doubtful, because the token is listed in the shade exchange!

but if this is really real, How lucky for you to have participated in the OKSchain gift project.

If we look at it carefully, it looks like a manipulation.  Because it is too weird if it increase too high.  It is normal situation to see the manipulation,  because people eager to do so much way for their own benefit.
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April 21, 2020, 05:01:00 PM
This is a common game in the altcoin market. There must be someone behind it. 700% increase in one day. This is by no means normal activity. The reports on the exchanges that pumped this token are not good, manipulation can be expected from them. When the volume of a coin / token is low and the marketcap is low, it becomes a whale game.
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April 21, 2020, 02:01:18 PM
It’s normal, even Bitcoin which is the father of all cryptocurrencies can as well be manipulated, not to talk of small altcoins.
But in the case of this token, being listed on a shady exchange is already a red flag, unless you have this feeling that it is different, then you can continue.

If I’m the one, I would avoid tokens that are listed on an exchange that has a bad rating and known for promoting a scam token, because there is hardly going to be any difference this time. And those running the project, if they are legit and knows what they are doing, they wouldn’t be messing around with such an exchange , because they know such would bring a bad name to their business.
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April 21, 2020, 01:00:00 PM
I am seeing this is manipulated, why? these exchanges probit,coinsbit,vindax are sh*t exchanges I have a very bad experience with those exchanges especially probit, so many bots it can dump or pump the coin/token. I am holding a token that is listed there it was dump 99%. If they can do it they can also pump a particular coin with fake trades. Be careful with those exchanges.
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April 21, 2020, 12:45:33 PM
its a good choice, but in this topic i see many people agree that the trend doesnt indicate to invest right now. Ill do the same way with you
Do it if it can be profitable, because all of us are responsible for the work we do at all times, but if what I see at the moment is still very good for investing, because the market is in good condition, so take the opportunity before it's too late.
but its still so risky, do you prefer to invest if so many indicator doesnt right? i believe you want to save your money that time rather than invest
it's better to invest when prices are declining, and indicators also support, I think it will be a good investment, especially as the price of bitcoin is now still under $ 7,000, there is resistance to aim at at $ 8,000, maybe that could be the selling price
you sure? could you send me your trend analysis? i believe this topic would not depend on bitcoin price. Like the others, i think its a "cukong" (indonesian accenct) way.
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April 21, 2020, 10:17:41 AM
#99
Recently I saw tokens generated from the bounty project 4 months ago and it was very unexpected that the price of the OKS $ 0.0239 token increased very sharply and volume in 24 hours (+ 718.94%).


Is this real? or just manipulation of prices in the market?


Firstly, if the volume increased drastically as well, then it's most likely real and not from bot manipulation. However, if the daily trading volume didn't correlate with the massive pump, then it's likely wash trading. I got lucky with a token CUR on same probit, which pumped about 300%, then followed by massive dump. I observed a lot of pump and dump actions on that exchange, but this doesn't mean the exchange is entirely bad. I pity those who will buy the top of such pump, because a dump must follow. Some days back, a friend bought SOL after it did 500% on Binance, thinking it will continue that way without setting SL, unfortunately it dipped badly after the pump. My advise is, if you don't enter a trade before a massive pump, just stay away from it, wait for a good entry and don't FOMO in.
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April 21, 2020, 10:03:12 AM
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in my opinion it is not manipulation. Newly registered tokens will usually pump up briefly and then dump due to too many people selling them.
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April 21, 2020, 09:08:08 AM
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its a good choice, but in this topic i see many people agree that the trend doesnt indicate to invest right now. Ill do the same way with you
Do it if it can be profitable, because all of us are responsible for the work we do at all times, but if what I see at the moment is still very good for investing, because the market is in good condition, so take the opportunity before it's too late.
but its still so risky, do you prefer to invest if so many indicator doesnt right? i believe you want to save your money that time rather than invest
it's better to invest when prices are declining, and indicators also support, I think it will be a good investment, especially as the price of bitcoin is now still under $ 7,000, there is resistance to aim at at $ 8,000, maybe that could be the selling price
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April 20, 2020, 04:14:55 PM
#96
the graph is leading to a very significant increase, it looks like the project team is pumping it to attract investors. on the one hand, probit and Vindax are dangerous exchanges, the trading volume there is invalid and I am worried investors will trust this project after seeing prices rise high.

That's it. Such moves can attract investors only in the short term.
Often, after such pumps, a strong fall follows, stunning investors who have just entered.
In addition, there is little point in investing in cryptocurrencies that have already risen in price, you risk falling into a recession.
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April 21, 2020, 02:36:29 AM
#96
its a good choice, but in this topic i see many people agree that the trend doesnt indicate to invest right now. Ill do the same way with you
Do it if it can be profitable, because all of us are responsible for the work we do at all times, but if what I see at the moment is still very good for investing, because the market is in good condition, so take the opportunity before it's too late.
but its still so risky, do you prefer to invest if so many indicator doesnt right? i believe you want to save your money that time rather than invest
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