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August 27, 2019, 10:18:38 PM
The Martin Armstrong Gold / Silver Ratio Fallacy



Gold/Silver ratio daily
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In the video available as part of the Metals Report subscription, Martin Armstrong made a clear statement regarding the significance of the Gold / Silver Ratio with respect to a potential Gold Rally, using Reversals and Forecast Arrays as follows.

To cut a long story short: It is all bullshit, some other wizardry to keep the fools entertained and keep them buying his products. Martin Armstrong said that the Gold/Siver ratio needs to fall below 70 to get a change in trend. The ratio actually dipped below 70 without a precious metal rally after that time, but interestingly, while the Gold price rallied, the ratio then rose steadily up to now between 85 and 90, at the time when we have a significant precious metals rally. To make it clear: This is the opposite effect, and we are trying to derive conclusions from this?

Transcript from Video, made on 2016-07-01:

Now I said before that one of the reasons that we saw for example, that gold was not ready, was simply that this silver gold ratio has been rising. In a bull market, it normally declines which would then show we would then have people buying silver as well as gold. So this is been absent as you can see from effectively 2011. Now we went up and we reached this high in February. Now we have been moving down fairly aggressively but we have still not elected any monthly bearish reversals to say the trend is starting to change. We need that confirmation [shows monthly bearish reversals 7310, 7395, 7026, 6024] and now, what we are really looking at, we have taken out the first two minor ones, we really have to get below this 70 area, and then ultimately we have to take out 6024. But once that begins to develop, now we are looking at a long term change in trend. So this is one of the criteria that we have to look at moving forward. [changes to forecast array] Now let's look at the timing of this. From the February high, we had a directional change in March. That has materialized so far, and we ended up with a bit of a, a major volatility rise here in July. And our next real turning point is coming in August - we can see that we have a bit of a choppy period when we come into the elections through October, that's where we have a panic cycle, and then next January is the biggest turning point. So we may see then a movement down, reaction up, if we get a reaction to the upside in January next year that will probably be it on the gold silver ratio. The real breakout in the middle still appears to be more around 2018.



Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


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August 27, 2019, 02:55:30 PM
Gold/Silver ratio daily

Picked the Array from previous post. It seems, The composite picked the high 16', after consecutive rises within the parallel channels, the correction and continuation to higher level. Another high coinciding with Fibonacci level and this is a classic Wedge formation. Last week, price is accelerating towards break and also the uptrend/parallel line.
Now, here it gets interesting. You can see the Volatility on the Array, this makes sense, on the Turn and as it approaches the brake or not(brake up).

I would like to ask if there is a monthly version ? The chart goes to the 70s, with some repeated patterns, coinciding with this particular timing regarding the Economic situation and the past. as you know this ratio is quite important. cheers

https://postimg.cc/Sjcbch8K

https://postimg.cc/1fHxYrvh


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August 27, 2019, 01:08:32 PM
Forcast arrays have clear rules which you can follow.  There are a few situation were it's hard to decide whether it's turning point, cycle inversion or sideways movement, but in general there is not that much ambiguity if you follow all the rules


Since you appear to be an expert on such things, where exactly is this set of rules laid out?  How about providing a link so we may all benefit.


Another top notch forecast by the great Martin Armstrong:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/china/china-warning-the-hong-kong-protests-are-a-color-revolution/

Quote
Posted Aug 26, 2019 by Martin Armstrong

Our key turning points remains unchanged – September, November, and the big one is January coinciding with the turn in the Economic Confidence Model. We do see rising volatility in the currency come October.

Just name 4 of the next 5 months that are important months.

Unfortunately the arrays for these "predictions" are rarely shown anymore so you are left guessing as to what it actually means.
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August 27, 2019, 03:21:09 AM
Do you have any Idea on Trading for yourself , or do you just blame other people in your life ? Do you have any real experience on the subject ?

Wrong question, wrong approach. I am not here to answer your question. You came out announcing that YOU would make contributions. Where are they? 15 years of experience with what exactly? Please provide material that is useful for the readers of this forum. Otherwise what is the point?

The fact that we want to engage you on the subject does not mean that you can engage me with personal attacks. Everything that needs to be said has already been said here so I do not have anything to answer. I am only here to dismantle these Martin Armstrong lies.


There are indeed people in this forum who talked about themselves in detail, and they are recommending to stay away from Martin Armstrong's product:

blinder007

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51632101

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud

See https://armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog

Yea wrong approach to what ? to you ? Smiley I am not here to prove other people work or teach you how to trade. I have made my mind and experience. So lets get on with the talk of the Trading Stuff, and leave the Identified-Categorize-newbies Superlatives personal attacks as you clearly did.
Technical Analysis is the most important tool, on trading, (IMO- Yea everyone has an opinion - just respect that).
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August 27, 2019, 02:51:42 AM
Do you have any Idea on Trading for yourself , or do you just blame other people in your life - Do you have any real experience on the subject ?

Wrong question, wrong approach. I am not here to answer your question. You came out announcing that YOU would make contributions. Where are they? 15 years of experience with what exactly? Please provide material that is useful for the readers of this forum. Otherwise what is the point?

The fact that we want to engage you on the subject does not mean that you can engage me with personal attacks. Everything that needs to be said has already been said here so I do not have anything to answer. I am only here to dismantle these Martin Armstrong lies.


There are indeed people in this forum who talked about themselves in detail, and they are recommending to stay away from Martin Armstrong's product:

blinder007

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51632101

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain
jr. member
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August 27, 2019, 02:46:44 AM
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Yes I agree as well, its from the viewpoint of Cycles, and how they interfere, I am not a strict follower of Socrates per se, dont trade on it, as I am more a technical trader done it 15 years research, built my own rules , but when something comes up,(often)
I will look at it/him ECM and look  for correlations and Syncs, especially on timing. I have been following the guy for 15 years, from the famous letters from inside, then looked at the guy ,past and present, attended some WECs. His experience alone, is massive, and thats what counts. I will try to add, to the discussion, anything valuable, from the System alone or what he says.

Identified

Another newbie to add to the list of affiliate aliases:

Gumbi, Strike Eagle 26, over45, Alex-11, Jason100

Wash, rinse and repeat. We will see a lot of superlatives but no facts. A guy with 15 years of research and no facts. Let's keep him engaged to expose that banality again and again for everyone else to see.

The facts can be found in this forum:

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud

See https://armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog



Do you have any Idea on Trading for yourself , or do you just blame other people in your life ? Do you have any real experience on the subject ?


As I said before, I'm 41 now and financially independent thanks to my investments.
So I think I don't have to blame anyone. Just MA for losing me a lot of money.

newbie
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August 27, 2019, 02:04:48 AM
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Yes I agree as well, its from the viewpoint of Cycles, and how they interfere, I am not a strict follower of Socrates per se, dont trade on it, as I am more a technical trader done it 15 years research, built my own rules , but when something comes up,(often)
I will look at it/him ECM and look  for correlations and Syncs, especially on timing. I have been following the guy for 15 years, from the famous letters from inside, then looked at the guy ,past and present, attended some WECs. His experience alone, is massive, and thats what counts. I will try to add, to the discussion, anything valuable, from the System alone or what he says.

Identified

Another newbie to add to the list of affiliate aliases:

Gumbi, Strike Eagle 26, over45, Alex-11, Jason100

Wash, rinse and repeat. We will see a lot of superlatives but no facts. A guy with 15 years of research and no facts. Let's keep him engaged to expose that banality again and again for everyone else to see.

The facts can be found in this forum:

Read this blog starting at page 273 to find out more about computerized fraud

See https://armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog



Do you have any Idea on Trading for yourself , or do you just blame other people in your life ? Do you have any real experience on the subject ?



jr. member
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August 27, 2019, 01:31:50 AM
Forcast arrays have clear rules which you can follow.  There are a few situation were it's hard to decide whether it's turning point, cycle inversion or sideways movement, but in general there is not that much ambiguity if you follow all the rules

One of the rules is indeed the 1% rule. Three weeks ago I wrote:

Gold elected the "important" monthly reversal in June. We closed 1,392.08. The Bullish monthly was 1,362.50. (~2,2% above the reversal).
So according to the 1% rule we need to test the 1,362.5 reversal within 3 time frames (3 months, so July, August or September).

At the moment gold is testing 1,500 so it would need to come down ~9%.
I'm hoping it will test 1,362.5 as I would like to buy more but I think it's not reachable.



At this moment Gold is around 1,530.
@Alex-11, Do you still see it testing the reversal at 1,362.50?
jr. member
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August 27, 2019, 01:24:50 AM
Identified

Another newbie to add to the list of affiliate aliases:

Gumbi, Strike Eagle 26, over45, Alex-11, Jason100

Wash, rinse and repeat. We will see a lot of superlatives but no facts. A guy with 15 years of research and no facts. Let's keep him engaged to expose that banality again and again for everyone else to see.

Haha, I was thinking exactly the same.
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August 26, 2019, 06:52:30 PM
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Yes I agree as well, its from the viewpoint of Cycles, and how they interfere, I am not a strict follower of Socrates per se, dont trade on it, as I am more a technical trader done it 15 years research, built my own rules , but when something comes up,(often)
I will look at it/him ECM and look  for correlations and Syncs, especially on timing. I have been following the guy for 15 years, from the famous letters from inside, then looked at the guy ,past and present, attended some WECs. His experience alone, is massive, and thats what counts. I will try to add, to the discussion, anything valuable, from the System alone or what he says.

Identified

Another newbie to add to the list of affiliate aliases:

Gumbi, Strike Eagle 26, over45, Alex-11, Jason100

Wash, rinse and repeat. We will see a lot of superlatives but no facts. A guy with 15 years of research and no facts. Let's keep him engaged to expose that banality again and again for everyone else to see.

The facts can be found in this forum:

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain

s29
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August 26, 2019, 06:18:26 PM
Another top notch forecast by the great Martin Armstrong:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/china/china-warning-the-hong-kong-protests-are-a-color-revolution/

Quote
Posted Aug 26, 2019 by Martin Armstrong

Our key turning points remains unchanged – September, November, and the big one is January coinciding with the turn in the Economic Confidence Model. We do see rising volatility in the currency come October.

Just name 4 of the next 5 months that are important months.
newbie
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August 26, 2019, 03:08:09 PM
as MA has told numerous times, dailies are noise.

I think he said that only because he thinks weekly and monthly is easier to trade.

this is interesting indeed, he says that because the higher time frame has a 'weighted advantage' compared to the lower. The "wave" in the higher is stronger.
but still not noise, when you trade the daily, but have to check both.
newbie
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August 26, 2019, 02:08:33 PM
....by looking at the forecast array which is again ambiguous....

Forcast arrays have clear rules which you can follow.  There are a few situation were it's hard to decide whether it's turning point, cycle inversion or sideways movement, but in general there is not that much ambiguity if you follow all the rules

Hi Alex, thanks

Yes I agree as well, its from the viewpoint of Cycles, and how they interfere, I am not a strict follower of Socrates per se, dont trade on it, as I am more a technical trader done it 15 years research, built my own rules , but when something comes up,(often)
I will look at it/him ECM and look  for correlations and Syncs, especially on timing. I have been following the guy for 15 years, from the famous letters from inside, then looked at the guy ,past and present, attended some WECs. His experience alone, is massive, and thats what counts. I will try to add, to the discussion, anything valuable, from the System alone or what he says.
newbie
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August 26, 2019, 01:23:04 PM
....by looking at the forecast array which is again ambiguous....

Forcast arrays have clear rules which you can follow.  There are a few situation were it's hard to decide whether it's turning point, cycle inversion or sideways movement, but in general there is not that much ambiguity if you follow all the rules
newbie
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August 26, 2019, 01:15:12 PM

Its Interesting to say, visiting the site/Discussion for first time, the page prints 314.  Smiley

welcome to this chat room  forum. I don't know why people prefer a single thread over a proper forum. There are only 6000 messages in this thread  Grin
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August 26, 2019, 12:55:07 PM
On Friday the DOW elected the bearish reversal of 26020.05 with a closing of 25628.90 a 1.5% difference. I have bought a position in DOG

I have seen as many good reversals as I have seen bad reversals that were outside the 1% rule such as this one.

I guess you believe that a flat-earth system such as Socrates can predict future price movement by simply inspecting the time series (which is what it does and nothing else).

Then if this reversal fails, then the Socrates system has the built-in ambiguity to tell you that YOU were wrong because you did not strictly follow the 1% rule. You will find in hindsight that you could have seen this by looking at the forecast array which is again ambiguous. You would have seen that there was some kind of turning point and you should have traded in the opposite direction.

That is why this system is a scam. Not because it is not always right. No system can always be right.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain
newbie
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August 25, 2019, 04:06:18 PM

Its Interesting to say, visiting the site/Discussion for first time, the page prints 314.  Smiley
newbie
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August 25, 2019, 01:10:09 PM
On Friday the DOW elected the bearish reversal of 26020.05 with a closing of 25628.90 a 1.5% difference.  I have bought a position in DOG
s29
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August 25, 2019, 09:22:29 AM
Would anyone care to share what Martin Armstrong's private blog say about gold at the moment? I think his macro views are worth listening to, but Socrates is a waste of time and money.

Regarding the macro view, the rear mirror perspective should be shown more often. Here it is. Directly from the private blog. You check his macro view and tell me what its value was from that perspective:

Gold for the Close of June 2019
Monday, 01 July 2019
By: Marty Armstrong
Gold finished below the 1417 number which we expected would happen since the rally was still premature. Nevertheless, the fact that it closed well above 1362.50 suggests that we should move back to retest this now as support.
According to our sources, the central banks which have been buying gold are all on the opposite side of the political table from the US and Europe. It appears that they have been buying gold NOT because they think this is a bull market, but out of fear that we are headed into a geopolitical conflict. Trump does not want to commit troops to war, but the neocons do! They will support either Republican or Democrat as long as they get to start wars in the Middle East.
From a purely technical perspective, the major support will now lie at 1275. Our Energy model is a slightly positive warning that the rally has NOT been one of broad support to date.


Wow, that was really completely worthless from Marty  Cheesy Lips sealed
So the gold price breaks the 136x level just slightly and already talking about retesting the breakout way too early. That's not how markets work.
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August 25, 2019, 06:26:06 AM
you have failed to properly respond to my argument. Instead you start writing about 5 other, unrelated topics. As usual.

You are quite right. I am not responding to your arguments with the aim of discussing things. I am here only to publish material when I feel it is due and you have provided me with an opportunity. It is obvious that you are defending the Socrates contraption which for you seems to be almost like some kind of currency. I do not actually think that I will change your mind.

Martin Armstrong is a charlatan, and he spent 11 years in jail for that reason but he has not changed.

Read this blog starting here to find out more about computerized fraud.


See armstrongecmscam.blogspot.com for a more compact view of major findings posted in this blog.

Every single defrauded person should report their case, see Where and how to complain
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