There was a similar case where minerjones released 50k dollars after a hacked account said so.
LoyceV post there links.
Topic: Massively fraudulent Escrow Transaction! - page 4. (Read 1026 times)
I actually find it a bit weird that in failing to secure your account, you are blaming your escrow and this forum and everybody else when it is clear that you're the one who failed to make sure that your account is safe.
Your escrow dealt with user scott2k. If user scott2k says everything's good and instructs the escrow to release fund, why should the escrow not do as instructed? You were saying that there wasn't even a tracking number. How would you know? After all, you've got no access to your account anymore. Is it not possible that user Burky155 has already sent a tracking number?
But I think you should settle this with escrow and Burky155 through private messaging.
Your escrow dealt with user scott2k. If user scott2k says everything's good and instructs the escrow to release fund, why should the escrow not do as instructed? You were saying that there wasn't even a tracking number. How would you know? After all, you've got no access to your account anymore. Is it not possible that user Burky155 has already sent a tracking number?
But I think you should settle this with escrow and Burky155 through private messaging.
I can't find the change in the seclog but I'm wondering if that was because the account was a lower rank or something (I'm assuming it's scott2k you referred to in another thread).
I think there should've been more oversight on negotiating terms before now from both sides but it may be weird OG didn't have a window (maybe a day) before releasing the funds after a confirmation from you (also was your only method of communication this forum)?
I doubt they were in on it though and you could probably come to a solution by dmming them and waiting for a response.
I think there should've been more oversight on negotiating terms before now from both sides but it may be weird OG didn't have a window (maybe a day) before releasing the funds after a confirmation from you (also was your only method of communication this forum)?
I doubt they were in on it though and you could probably come to a solution by dmming them and waiting for a response.
I have DMed Og about it and he said:
"No idea who you are but we’ve never communicated. The proper account authorized release and all policies were followed. If you failed to secure your account that is hardly my fault. The release address was confirmed at the time of escrow and you approved release to it. Not sure how you think I would know your account is compromised."
I replied with
Og, how do you release the funds when no tracking information had even been provided yet!?
I can't find the change in the seclog but I'm wondering if that was because the account was a lower rank or something (I'm assuming it's scott2k you referred to in another thread).
I think there should've been more oversight on negotiating terms before now from both sides but it may be weird OG didn't have a window (maybe a day) before releasing the funds after a confirmation from you (also was your only method of communication this forum)?
I doubt they were in on it though and you could probably come to a solution by dmming them and waiting for a response.
I think there should've been more oversight on negotiating terms before now from both sides but it may be weird OG didn't have a window (maybe a day) before releasing the funds after a confirmation from you (also was your only method of communication this forum)?
I doubt they were in on it though and you could probably come to a solution by dmming them and waiting for a response.
And yes, it is the scott2k account.
I can't find the change in the seclog but I'm wondering if that was because the account was a lower rank or something (I'm assuming it's scott2k you referred to in another thread).
I think there should've been more oversight on negotiating terms before now from both sides but it may be weird OG didn't have a window (maybe a day) before releasing the funds after a confirmation from you (also was your only method of communication this forum)?
I doubt they were in on it though and you could probably come to a solution by dmming them and waiting for a response.
I think there should've been more oversight on negotiating terms before now from both sides but it may be weird OG didn't have a window (maybe a day) before releasing the funds after a confirmation from you (also was your only method of communication this forum)?
I doubt they were in on it though and you could probably come to a solution by dmming them and waiting for a response.
While I agree that maybe some more negotiation needed to take place... I never in a million years would expect the seller himself would be able to gain access to my account and call for the release before a tracking # was even provided... I guess I could have been a fortune teller and asked that a tracking # be provided prior to any release.... which I assumed was just standard procedure... if there is no proof provided that a item was shipped how can the transaction take place...?
How the hell does THAT happen though, how did the seller even gain access to my account... what are the odds of that? And if it is something that happens from time to time via some known hack vector or spoof link or whatever... how am I the first person this has happened to, to the point that Og didn't sense something was amiss???
Update:
OG basically just saying:
"It was released by the authorized account... all policies followed.."
And that it is my fault that my account wasn't "secure".
My reply to him:
While it is understandable that it ultimately comes down to my account's security... I still WENT TO HIM because of his knowledge and expertise and likely ability to spot something that looks "off"... and make sure nothing goes wrong.
Very bad experience. And I will make sure everyone knows to be wary of escrowing with him because of his lack of attention.
And to blame it on my account' security... when escrow is being offered on a platform that DOESNT EVEN HAVE BASIC ACCOUNT SECURITY FEATURES LIKE 2FA!!!!! Which I also will make sure that my following is aware of this as well... escrow shouldn't even be fucking allowed on here without 2fa being integrated first. How the fuck does this website not have 2fa?
That in and of itself is what bothers me the most now after thinking about it. WHY IS ESCROW EVEN ALLOWED HERE WHEN ACCOUNT SECURITY CANNOT BE GUARANTEED!!!!!
Close down the marketplace until 2fa is implemented! Do SOMETHING!
I can't find the change in the seclog but I'm wondering if that was because the account was a lower rank or something (I'm assuming it's scott2k you referred to in another thread).
I think there should've been more oversight on negotiating terms before now from both sides but it may be weird OG didn't have a window (maybe a day) before releasing the funds after a confirmation from you (also was your only method of communication this forum)?
I doubt they were in on it though and you could probably come to a solution by dmming them and waiting for a response.
I think there should've been more oversight on negotiating terms before now from both sides but it may be weird OG didn't have a window (maybe a day) before releasing the funds after a confirmation from you (also was your only method of communication this forum)?
I doubt they were in on it though and you could probably come to a solution by dmming them and waiting for a response.
Hello!
I recently made a post regarding my personal account being compromised.
I have investigated what all took place! It is clear some shenanigans took place and I cant help but see how the escrower himself was not "in" on it.
1) I had a paid escrow deal for some mining hardware with user Burky155.
2) OgNasty was our escrower and he confirmed that he had received the funds (about 0.46~ btc)
3) I provided a shipping address, and my BTC refund address.
4) Burky replied after Og confirmed the payment... and said okay the shipment will be sent in 1-3 days, and he would provide tracking information.
5) This was 3 days ago... No tracking number was provided yet, but I logged in today expecting to likely see that tracking number... since we were at the 3rd day.... But this is when it said my password was incorrect.
6) I went to my email, found the password reset emails that came, and email address changed as well... at 8:36AM mountain time.
7) At 9:16 mountain time, the funds were sent from Og's wallet, to Burky155's wallet.
My questions are this:
1) How the hell did my account get hacked into... It is clear that it was coordinated with someone in the "know" and the guy went into my account, replied and said "All is good, release the funds"... when all was not good... and allowed the funds to be sent TO the original address Burky155 provided... which means that Burky himself had to of been the guy inside my account... or OG/Burky were working together??
2) Why the hell would OG release the funds??? Even if Scott2k messaged and said to release the funds.... without even getting a tracking # to verify it all? It does not make sense to me how a seasoned escrower would not sense something is amiss and wait for a tiny bit more confirmation before simply RELEASING $11,500 in bitcoin.
3) Any path to recovery? Is my evidence clear that Og was likely involved in this, or not? Because I don't understand what logical person would just release funds so quickly without so much as a tracking # even.
Ugh... I am going to quit crypto forever. This wasn't even MY money, it was for a friend who was just wanting to buy a miner.
I recently made a post regarding my personal account being compromised.
I have investigated what all took place! It is clear some shenanigans took place and I cant help but see how the escrower himself was not "in" on it.
1) I had a paid escrow deal for some mining hardware with user Burky155.
2) OgNasty was our escrower and he confirmed that he had received the funds (about 0.46~ btc)
3) I provided a shipping address, and my BTC refund address.
4) Burky replied after Og confirmed the payment... and said okay the shipment will be sent in 1-3 days, and he would provide tracking information.
5) This was 3 days ago... No tracking number was provided yet, but I logged in today expecting to likely see that tracking number... since we were at the 3rd day.... But this is when it said my password was incorrect.
6) I went to my email, found the password reset emails that came, and email address changed as well... at 8:36AM mountain time.
7) At 9:16 mountain time, the funds were sent from Og's wallet, to Burky155's wallet.
My questions are this:
1) How the hell did my account get hacked into... It is clear that it was coordinated with someone in the "know" and the guy went into my account, replied and said "All is good, release the funds"... when all was not good... and allowed the funds to be sent TO the original address Burky155 provided... which means that Burky himself had to of been the guy inside my account... or OG/Burky were working together??
2) Why the hell would OG release the funds??? Even if Scott2k messaged and said to release the funds.... without even getting a tracking # to verify it all? It does not make sense to me how a seasoned escrower would not sense something is amiss and wait for a tiny bit more confirmation before simply RELEASING $11,500 in bitcoin.
3) Any path to recovery? Is my evidence clear that Og was likely involved in this, or not? Because I don't understand what logical person would just release funds so quickly without so much as a tracking # even.
Ugh... I am going to quit crypto forever. This wasn't even MY money, it was for a friend who was just wanting to buy a miner.
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