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Quote from: Tungbulu on Today at 09:13:27 AM

You know what they say OP about a smoke without a fire? This news about match fixing has been going on for decades now, especially amongst the small leagues, and though it hasn’t actually been proven and no culprits has been apprehended but still, I don’t believe those news are just flying around for no reason. Yes a lot of gamblers may be using this as an excuse to why they’ve been losing more often in their bets, which isn’t actually true, I believe match fixing or manipulation is real and happening but not as it’s been exaggerated by gamblers.

No culprits have been found? Really? Did you read about Son Jun-ho’s accusation about being involved in match fixing? Match fixing isn’t a myth it actually happens it’s just that it’s not something you get to see all the time since it take extremely insane amount of money and also connections to be able to get it to play, this is the only case I have seen and I’m not sure what later happens to him (I haven’t read recent news about Son) but I’m sure that if he could do something like this then there are others who’d also do the same.

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This is a simple problem, do not bet on low league gaming.
Those game can be manipulate due to low salary and value of the players.
if you want th real game go on the league of the world like NBA and some league which the management pay hteir players well.
this fix matching isa a problem a long time ago.

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Match fixing potentially comes from the league from the countries with low rank of FIFA or we can says the league from 3rd world countries and the players from these countries is very easy to bribery because their salaries as an athlete usually very low so the players will not refuse if someone gives them a lot of money for match fixing but for big league maybe we will still find one or two matches which potentially can be called as match fixing but basically it was rare to happen so if you want to bets then stick to the matches from big league to avoid these kinds of things

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People will always talk, especially when they're not winning. The recent rise of casino and bet companies in sports sponsorship will raise a lot of eyebrows but they won't bring any proof. It's all hearsay because the claims are not true.
I understand that humans are greedy but both the clubs and the companies don't need to fix a game or games to make money. They make money through other legal means.

I don't think the risk is worth the reward. if they're caught they could lose everything. Over what? A couple million? Is it worth it?
Match fixing is present in the very lower leagues of some countries and a lot of gambling sites and beating sites don't have those games on their site.
In the top leagues and relatively top leagues, its difficult to fix a game and the reward of doing so is never worth the risk.

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Quote from: SuperBitMan on Today at 08:32:19 AM

There's a news going round this days that the reason why gamblers are no longer winning games when it comes to sport betting is because sport bet companies and other influential people in the world always buy matches and tell them what they should play, for example two football clubs are playing a match tomorrow and a lot of people have predicted on that particular match and if majority of gambler's have predicted on it that sport bet companies will decide to buy the match in other for those clubs to play the unexpected.
This is not true because such act is highly prohibited by nations they have a very strict laws against match fixing and any Player, coache, or official caught engaging in this practice risk being ban from the sport there by tarnishing their careers and reputations.
One of the reasons why match fixing is not supported is because it kills the passion for that particular sport and Match-fixing involves manipulation and deception, betraying the trust of fans, players, and stakeholders who expect the sport to be genuine, that news flying around about match fixing is false, if your prediction didn't go as predicted those not mean the match was fixed.
The same way gamblers lose money sometimes that's same way sport betting companies lose money sometimes, and same way gamblers win sometimes that's same way sport betting companies win sometimes.

Only low level leagues can fix matches and not in a professional league. In big leagues, clubs are after winning trophies and not selling their pride for peanuts. Match fixing kills the fun and professionalism in sport. Gamblers are losing because that's the nature of gambling, you will always lose more than you win. Don't get it twisted.

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Match fixing is a lose lose for everyone involved. Best case scenario you win a little bit of money and were a part of multiple crimes that not only disrespect the sport you're betting on, but the players, coaches, fans... Match fixing is in no way respectable. Not to mention there is still risk involved. As an athlete, it is probably the most dishonest thing you can do and many leagues will ban you for life for being a part of something like this. Not to mention even if you do win there's a chance you could not be paid and possibly even arrested. Steer clear of looking for trouble. This sort of thing is the epitome of stupid.

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I think match fixing is very much a reality. Especially in low tier competition and poor countries where there is not strict regulatory control.
Also if you are not talking only about football in some sports athletes barely making a living so this might also influence.

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Quote from: SuperBitMan on Today at 08:32:19 AM

There's a news going round this days that the reason why gamblers are no longer winning games when it comes to sport betting is because sport bet companies and other influential people in the world always buy matches and tell them what they should play, for example two football clubs are playing a match tomorrow and a lot of people have predicted on that particular match and if majority of gambler's have predicted on it that sport bet companies will decide to buy the match in other for those clubs to play the unexpected.
This is not true because such act is highly prohibited by nations they have a very strict laws against match fixing and any Player, coache, or official caught engaging in this practice risk being ban from the sport there by tarnishing their careers and reputations.
One of the reasons why match fixing is not supported is because it kills the passion for that particular sport and Match-fixing involves manipulation and deception, betraying the trust of fans, players, and stakeholders who expect the sport to be genuine, that news flying around about match fixing is false, if your prediction didn't go as predicted those not mean the match was fixed.
The same way gamblers lose money sometimes that's same way sport betting companies lose money sometimes, and same way gamblers win sometimes that's same way sport betting companies win sometimes.

in the top leagues where top clubs play, the probability of a fixed match is very low, but in leagues of the second tier, this can happen without problems and not only in football, but hockey, volleyball, and so on, often, ironically, the sponsors of these clubs are bookmakers (is that a coincidence?) in addition to the teams that have agreed among themselves, there are also judges who adjust the result in their favor, so in this aspect there are two negative components.

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Quote from: Fiatless on Today at 11:50:17 AM

Gamblers are always going up with different stories about why they are not winning. If you enter a physical betting shop you will hear all kinds of stories that are nothing but fiction of someone's imagination. I wonder how a wealthy individual will buy a match and manipulate both teams to play as he wishes. I have never read about that anyway, maybe the OP can give us a link to a published story.

Match fixing happens in both major and lowly rated Leagues. But it is mainly done by players or match officials. It will be easy to manipulate games in the lower league where player's pay is very low. That's why I prefer to place bets on major leagues alone to avoid being caught up in this fraud.

players make up stories because they want to hide, the reality is this and nothing can change what they say, the fact that they always have an excuse says a lot about how much bullshit they tell, in truth the biggest lie they tell to themselves.
Regarding match fixing, they caught some in Italy recently and it breaks down what they were doing in minor leagues or sports, match fixing and manipulating the matches

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Gamblers are always going up with different stories about why they are not winning. If you enter a physical betting shop you will hear all kinds of stories that are nothing but fiction of someone's imagination. I wonder how a wealthy individual will buy a match and manipulate both teams to play as he wishes. I have never read about that anyway, maybe the OP can give us a link to a published story.

Match fixing happens in both major and lowly rated Leagues. But it is mainly done by players or match officials. It will be easy to manipulate games in the lower league where player's pay is very low. That's why I prefer to place bets on major leagues alone to avoid being caught up in this fraud.

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Quote from: SuperBitMan on Today at 08:32:19 AM

There's a news going round this days that the reason why gamblers are no longer winning games when it comes to sport betting is because sport bet companies and other influential people in the world always buy matches and tell them what they should play

No, what happens in this case is that the fixed matches came to highily reduce the rate of winning gamblers in that after those big shoes has hijacked the the reality outcome of the games with their influence, they tends to bridge winning of those good gamblers with analytical mindsets on their prediction.
So those obvious matches they can easily be predictable are the most interested of those whales to be hijacked so the can savage most bettors predictions to fail.

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Match fixing happens in some cases but it was easier before when it was handled more effectively. In big leagues and important matches, although they would be the most interesting ones, it is just more difficult because they are the ones that attract the most attention and at the minimum the involved parties can find themselves in court. Bernard Tapie went to jail for such a case, for example.

In any case, the hypothesis raised by the OP is bullshit, what happens with the bookies is that they adjust the odds better and better, it is something that if you watch interviews with professional sports bettors who have been doing this for years you will see that they comment (if they comment the opposite, think if they have a school or a supposedly winning system that they want to sell you).

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Quote from: SuperBitMan on Today at 08:32:19 AM

There's a news going round this days that the reason why gamblers are no longer winning games when it comes to sport betting is because sport bet companies and other influential people in the world always buy matches and tell them what they should play, for example two football clubs are playing a match tomorrow and a lot of people have predicted on that particular match and if majority of gambler's have predicted on it that sport bet companies will decide to buy the match in other for those clubs to play the unexpected.
This is not true because such act is highly prohibited by nations they have a very strict laws against match fixing and any Player, coache, or official caught engaging in this practice risk being ban from the sport there by tarnishing their careers and reputations.
One of the reasons why match fixing is not supported is because it kills the passion for that particular sport and Match-fixing involves manipulation and deception, betraying the trust of fans, players, and stakeholders who expect the sport to be genuine, that news flying around about match fixing is false, if your prediction didn't go as predicted those not mean the match was fixed.
The same way gamblers lose money sometimes that's same way sport betting companies lose money sometimes, and same way gamblers win sometimes that's same way sport betting companies win sometimes.

This isn't something new and we have seen such news earlier as well.
Many players have been caught in such cases and have been banned from playing the sport.
Rich people often end up buying the players or the teams and bet against them to win a huge load of money.
It's hard to tell if a player or a team has fixed a match but the probability of such things happening in huge games are low.
So we can say that the bigger leagues have lesser fixed matches and are generally safer to bet on.

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if it's in a big league maybe it won't be a problem, but when you gamble on a smaller and less popular league, your view on this might change, because in a smaller league there is a greater possibility that the game could be fixed because usually the players who play in this league do not have good professionalism and they tend to work in other fields outside their sport. so it's no wonder that there are many cases of game fixing in smaller leagues because people who play in this league don't really think about 'fair play' and they only play based on what benefits them, even when it risks their pride.

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Just go to the big league.

If you play on low league or small league, match and other. The match fixing was high, there also have some discussion the person who created the league or provider a match can see a pools money in the match.

They, can choose which one are gonna to be win according to the pools money. Best advice, never bet on small league or unknown match/player just go to the big leagues.

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Quote from: SuperBitMan on Today at 08:32:19 AM

... that news flying around about match fixing is false, if your prediction didn't go as predicted those not mean the match was fixed.
The same way gamblers lose money sometimes that's same way sport betting companies lose money sometimes, and same way gamblers win sometimes that's same way sport betting companies win sometimes.

Match-fixing exists; you may not see it often in big leagues because there is an organization or commission that carefully watches for signs of anomalies, but in small leagues where the games and betting are not sanctioned by big organizations, it happens. I have seen it happen many times before.
As a bettor, you must have a keen observation; don't just accept the results; its part of your analysis to check for errors, whether its intentional or not.

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In every rumour there is a truth in it. just so you know people don't just talk or spread news without a real fact actually pushing this talks it only happens to be that some might be over exaggerated. match/game fixing is very real. A lot of small leagues partake in this act and because it's prohibited it's been covered with the fact that football games are very much unpredictable.

If you want to see what it's really about you should try small leagues and see for yourself that it's really manipulated, 20 odds could win 1.10 odds with match fixings but in popular leagues it's really almost impossible to see such outcome. Just don't think because it hasn't happened to you that it can not or it's not true people do a lot of weird things to get this bag and this match fixing is one of those things.

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Quote from: SuperBitMan on Today at 08:32:19 AM

There's a news going round this days that the reason why gamblers are no longer winning games when it comes to sport betting is because sport bet companies and other influential people in the world always buy matches and tell them what they should play, for example two football clubs are playing a match tomorrow and a lot of people have predicted on that particular match and if majority of gambler's have predicted on it that sport bet companies will decide to buy the match in other for those clubs to play the unexpected.

It is true bro in low league i believe because here in my country indonesia there are rumors about match fixing before

The news is in indonesia language but here i translate for you

"The Indonesian National Police (Polri) and PSSI Anti-Mafia Football Task Force revealed a series of the latest facts from the match fixing case in the Indonesian football league. Starting from the involvement of Vigit Waluyo to the SBOTOP gambling house with a turnover of billions of rupiah." https://www.tempo.co/sepakbola/3-fakta-terbaru-kasus-match-fixing-liga-indonesia-libatkan-vigit-waluyo-hingga-beromzet-miliaran-rupiah-108744

It is crazy right match fixings can earn the casino hundred of dollar more and 100K here in indonesia is a lot

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Actually I feel match fixing is a reality but not in the well known league as those big leagues are so much of a big business that I doubt the possibilities of just buying these teams over to perform according to their bid as there's usually so much at stake on almost every match for them to allow some gamblers pay disrupt their actual performance and getting their deserving pay assupposed

Then for other sports that aren't popular and are less known to people out there are the ones that can be fixed and then pay the players to do according to their bid.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on Today at 10:01:38 AM

Match fixing can be real but not to a noticeable rate, a lot of things happened behind the seen even with sanctions in place for this kind of act, people can still find their way to manoeuvre and would not get caught in the action.

I doubt sometimes it happens to some noticeable rate, i watched a game were this team played to a smaller club and it was unlike how they played knowing they have easy points before them, all attacking chance were dissolved back to their goal keeper claiming to take possession of the ball, this went on and the players were slow, nothing seems right from the game and my instinct kicked that the game was sold.

I don't think any gambling company will pay directly for a fixed game, it's hard to believe but this trade is mostly an agreement between both teams playing against each other.

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