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November 24, 2023, 02:49:33 AM
When it comes to those games there is not really a strategy you can devise to beat them, and you must content yourself simply with the joy you can get out of them.

The term 'luck-based games' speaks for itself, especially for gamblers. It implies winning relies on luck rather than skills. Therefore, there's limited room for development here, except perhaps in mastering proper bankroll management. However, it's not entirely necessary, as the house edge will likely erode our bankroll over the long run. To be realistic about winning in gambling through mathematical strategies, the focus should shift to skill-based games. Moreover, specificity in the chosen game is crucial, as each game demands a different strategy and approach.
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November 23, 2023, 09:15:23 PM
In fact, we still see a few in life mentioned as winners, so any game needs elements such as knowing, understanding, applying, creating,... And gambling also requires learning to become a professional player as well as having a high winning rate. I remember when I was in high school, my teacher once told us the odds of winning on coins, but we tend to lose more than we win, so understanding the game helps we eliminate the odds of losing a lot.
I believe that defeat sometimes teaches people many good things that people can't learn by winning multiple times. For those who can learn from some defeats, those defeats are fine, but for those who defeat has become a habit, that is, those who continue to lose one after another, but this defeat is terrible. When one or two defeats come after a few successful wins, we have to take those defeats as normal but if we keep losing one after another then we must realize that we must have had enough mistakes in our strategy. If more defeats accompany us then we should take a break and find out our weak points and work on them. By taking a break and finding the weak point, when he works on the weak point, we can win the game again.
That advice only applies when your are playing a game in which your skill can affect your results, as trying to do this in a game like slots makes no sense, you could learn how not to bet too much on that game and avoid letting your emotions take control of you when you gamble, but that is it.

When it comes to those games there is not really a strategy you can devise to beat them, and you must content yourself simply with the joy you can get out of them.
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November 20, 2023, 09:29:09 AM
In fact, we still see a few in life mentioned as winners, so any game needs elements such as knowing, understanding, applying, creating,... And gambling also requires learning to become a professional player as well as having a high winning rate. I remember when I was in high school, my teacher once told us the odds of winning on coins, but we tend to lose more than we win, so understanding the game helps we eliminate the odds of losing a lot.
I believe that defeat sometimes teaches people many good things that people can't learn by winning multiple times. For those who can learn from some defeats, those defeats are fine, but for those who defeat has become a habit, that is, those who continue to lose one after another, but this defeat is terrible. When one or two defeats come after a few successful wins, we have to take those defeats as normal but if we keep losing one after another then we must realize that we must have had enough mistakes in our strategy. If more defeats accompany us then we should take a break and find out our weak points and work on them. By taking a break and finding the weak point, when he works on the weak point, we can win the game again.
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November 19, 2023, 12:13:32 PM

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In any case, just as what Huppercase implied, there has to be some sort of distinction as to what type of maths are we talking about, especially for those who are aspiring to make a killing in this industry by literally being so good at the game you want to dissect that you're banned in casinos for winning so much. I'd say that most card games have some sort of counting strategy to them, while other games are a little more on the tricky side.
When using mathematics in gambling games such as poker, of course every gambler has their own way of calculating what strategy to use in processing cards, but calculations like this cannot really be understood by everyone.
And regarding gambler prowess in calculating cards accurately to get more wins, it is not problem when they gamble in large casino, after all trusted casino will not ban customers just because they win more often.

The branch of mathematics that is related to gambling is Probability Theory or Probability Calculus. This applies to all kind of gambling, not only cards gambling. Gambling is a game about calculating a probability of something that can appear. There is no certainty at gambling.

There is no strategy at calculating anything at gambling, because calculating is static, no various options. Strategy at gambling is about reading the game directions, big or small bets, or the habit of the opponents at putting bets. This is why psychology plays big role at gambling that can rush the adrenaline of the players, because uncertainty create hope for people.
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November 19, 2023, 07:02:18 AM


School is not important as 96% of what you learn won't be used in the real world to make money, but this 4% left is making a lot of people rich, math and gambling seems to go with each other, what do you guys think? Am I wrong or right?

Schools are important, very important, school is where we breed doctors, lawyers, and teachers, and these professionals are making money on what they learned on school this is misinformation, if there are no schools we are all nothing, schools are the most important institutions governments are funding schools and they promote schools and discourage out of school youth.
For a country to move towards progress and make its citizens useful, it needs schools to educate its people, you can't learn math on your own, you need teachers and schools to teach you how to be good in math, so school is 100% important.

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November 19, 2023, 06:29:51 AM


School is not important as 96% of what you learn won't be used in the real world to make money, but this 4% left is making a lot of people rich, math and gambling seems to go with each other, what do you guys think? Am I wrong or right?

Before I began gambling, there were some YouTube videos that do pop up occasionally and I can still remember vividly that one was titled “a man was banned from gambling after winning with his mathematical strategy” or something similar to this; although I never played them since I’m no maths genius and if I should play the videos I won’t understand shit about what they are talking about, but one question still bother me, these so called maths genius have they never lost a game since they started gambling? Is their maths strategy a flawless one? It could be as what the post above mine said and it was just luck that their analysis worked and people linked it to their maths skills.



I know gambling is math, but I never knew someone who used math to win a game, but I have seen it in many movies. It's really a skill for someone to make it happen. And one person I know who is actually addicted to this kind of video, "How to Win Millions in Gambling by Using This Math Trick," And he never won any lumbsum until now, plus he's still addicted and loses everything he has. Earlier, he had a decent job, but now he's jobless and still calculating the math, hoping to win one day. I don't know if he wins or not, but how can he be so stupid to lose his job, family, and everything just because he is obsessed with this?
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November 19, 2023, 05:49:15 AM
When we study in school life or college life, we have many other subjects including mathematics, physics, chemistry, whose formulas have to be read very carefully and whose mathematical solutions have to be done very happily, but in real life, those formulas are not very useful to us. In real life we need the right experience and skills for specific jobs. When I finish my education, I will work in a company, but the owner of that company will not do the calculations for me but will do the work for me. If we understand maths less but understand the specific work very well then the company will be satisfied by me. If we succeed in gambling without accounting then I don't think there is much need for accounting in gambling.
These formulas can indeed be useful for us. But in real life, we don't really need those formulas to do things. We tend to think and act and not use these formulas immediately. The situation will be different if we already work for a company because what the company needs is how we can work well and give something to the company. If we can work well, we will be rewarded but if not, we only get a salary commensurate with our work. But in gambling, there may be other formulas used but I don't really understand them or don't even know them at all. Maybe some people understand more about the formulas used in gambling so they might have a better chance of winning.
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November 19, 2023, 02:50:20 AM
What I know is that gambling is probability, which is a topic in mathematics, we also have Permutation and Combination which also is included in gambling. Let’s say you’re playing a roll dice game, you’ll be able to know what your odds of winning are. Even in poker, if you’re able to calculate the number of possible combinations of cards, you will be able to tell your chance of getting a certain hand. But this doesn’t mean that your game isn’t based on luck because after all the calculations, luck will come in.
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November 19, 2023, 02:45:22 AM
In fact, we still see a few in life mentioned as winners, so any game needs elements such as knowing, understanding, applying, creating,... And gambling also requires learning to become a professional player as well as having a high winning rate. I remember when I was in high school, my teacher once told us the odds of winning on coins, but we tend to lose more than we win, so understanding the game helps we eliminate the odds of losing a lot.
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November 19, 2023, 02:33:23 AM

For instance, card games like poker and blackjack have a certain system on them that allows players who are more adept at maths to gain an upper hand against their opponents, the same could be assumed for other games like dice. Math and games go together like two lovebirds so it seems.
I agree that poker and blackjack are games of skill that can use skill and mathematics to gain an advantage and win the game but for dice I don't think so because we don't know how dice can be calculated using mathematics because dice game game of pure luck.
Some people may be able to use strategy in dice games but that is not guaranteed because dice is game that is difficult to predict with certainty in any way.

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In any case, just as what Huppercase implied, there has to be some sort of distinction as to what type of maths are we talking about, especially for those who are aspiring to make a killing in this industry by literally being so good at the game you want to dissect that you're banned in casinos for winning so much. I'd say that most card games have some sort of counting strategy to them, while other games are a little more on the tricky side.
When using mathematics in gambling games such as poker, of course every gambler has their own way of calculating what strategy to use in processing cards, but calculations like this cannot really be understood by everyone.
And regarding gambler prowess in calculating cards accurately to get more wins, it is not problem when they gamble in large casino, after all trusted casino will not ban customers just because they win more often.
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November 18, 2023, 06:08:01 PM
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I myself do not understand poker very well, but I have played it, indeed some say that poker is also related to arithmetic in other words math. When I played poker I didn't think about it, I just played along with the game while understanding the flow of the poker game.  And over time I found out about the arrangement of cards to get victory, with the arrangement of cards that will determine the victory, and the cards held by us must also enter with the cards on the table to enter the highest card arrangement.
It is true that you say there is little chance of luck in poker because in my opinion it is also difficult to arrange the cards held with the cards on the table, and some say this one game is difficult to cheat. I also think that way, because with the card divider running the game it seems difficult, but I don't know if with expert poker players, maybe they know how to cheat this game hahaha.

I also don't understand how to play poker but what I know for sure, it's a game that's not easy, actually I'm quite curious about how he uses mathematical formulas when playing poker, does it work! However, poker is not a child's game, only smart people can master it and win it like the person in the OP. but I am very interested in OP's view that school is not important, surely all poker players who win big money have gone to school, it's just that their fate is different, at any time school will be the most important thing for mankind, without school it will be difficult for people gain knowledge.
I am not here to feel arrogant or pretend to be an experienced gambler, but the game of poker is very easy to learn and anyone can very easily make a profit in this poker game and its not just about mathematics but a lot of patience.
because this poker game really requires a lot of patience to process your cards, you can win every round, even with just one pair in your hand, you can win the game depending on how you process your cards.

I think you two should try to learn this poker game to fight other bettors because it is about patience and mathematics to try how much talent you have and I am sure you will enjoy it.

and dont forget to buy the jackpot in every round, who knows, you might get a royal flush.
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November 18, 2023, 03:13:31 PM
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I myself do not understand poker very well, but I have played it, indeed some say that poker is also related to arithmetic in other words math. When I played poker I didn't think about it, I just played along with the game while understanding the flow of the poker game.  And over time I found out about the arrangement of cards to get victory, with the arrangement of cards that will determine the victory, and the cards held by us must also enter with the cards on the table to enter the highest card arrangement.
It is true that you say there is little chance of luck in poker because in my opinion it is also difficult to arrange the cards held with the cards on the table, and some say this one game is difficult to cheat. I also think that way, because with the card divider running the game it seems difficult, but I don't know if with expert poker players, maybe they know how to cheat this game hahaha.

I also don't understand how to play poker but what I know for sure, it's a game that's not easy, actually I'm quite curious about how he uses mathematical formulas when playing poker, does it work! However, poker is not a child's game, only smart people can master it and win it like the person in the OP. but I am very interested in OP's view that school is not important, surely all poker players who win big money have gone to school, it's just that their fate is different, at any time school will be the most important thing for mankind, without school it will be difficult for people gain knowledge.

While poker is not something again that is very difficult to play I think the people who are saying that poker is a skill based or a difficult game to play they haven't tried it or never wish to learn it.
I will suggest everyone to at least try to learn poker and try to play it few times and you will feel that it is not only an easy game to play but at the same time it is very appealing and interesting game.

Also not everything needs to be learn through schooling or academic stuff ,some things are just like a common sense and you can use online tutorials about poker , a lot of YouTube videos and free stuff available to everyone of us interesting to learn poker first and then enjoying and playing gambling platforms.
Totally skill based and a mix of little bit of luck when it comes on having those hands but in overall it would really be involving that kind of handling and calculations on which it would really be something that gives out that kind of a advantage among others. Yes, i could say that this is really that a battle of skill and experience on how you would really be making out those kind of decisions and make out those counting
which only a few could be able to do so. IF this one talks about math and calculations and do really make these gamblers or poker players becomes millionaires then it would really be that signifying
that it does works but the question is, it would really be that precise? Pretty sure that calculations will really be that relevant but luck would really be always take a
crucial part.

The thing on here is that you shouldnt really be forcing out yourself on having those kind of similar path to take but its not bad to find out for yourself on how you would really be gonna handling
when it comes to poker game but its a must thing that you should really be enjoying at the same time. There are really just those people who are really that
lucky at the same time and having the skills and this is why they do really reach out this kind of status that not everyone could be able to
experience or would be able to reach out.
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November 18, 2023, 03:08:13 PM
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Feel like most card games are this way anyway, and most games in a casino that's not based on chance entirely.

For instance, card games like poker and blackjack have a certain system on them that allows players who are more adept at maths to gain an upper hand against their opponents, the same could be assumed for other games like dice. Math and games go together like two lovebirds so it seems.

In any case, just as what Huppercase implied, there has to be some sort of distinction as to what type of maths are we talking about, especially for those who are aspiring to make a killing in this industry by literally being so good at the game you want to dissect that you're banned in casinos for winning so much. I'd say that most card games have some sort of counting strategy to them, while other games are a little more on the tricky side.
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November 18, 2023, 03:02:36 PM
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I'm not good at math, so that may be why I can't win as much as some people. But I guess it's not like that because gambling is not that simple. Maybe there are other things involved in gambling and maybe gambling uses mathematics but we don't know for sure which ones. Or maybe math is used for some gambling games that require skill so if he is very good at math, he might be able to win a lot at that game. Well, maybe you're right. Maybe you are wrong too. But what about luck? That can't be calculated using mathematics, right? We can only wait for luck to come. But mathematics is also used to calculate the percentage probability of winning or losing. But it seems too difficult for me.

When he said maths, he wasn't making emphasis on that kind of maths you are talking about, maybe is actually talking about that real math but the other type of gambling you are talking about doesn't need real math's. All you need is your smart brain to be be able make good selection, good analysis and even if you make the first one and it doesn't work, then you can change strategy to increase your chance of winning, that's only way to enjoy gambling.

In all you do while gambling, make sure that you stick to your winning strategy, you don't have to follow the majority of others because they are playing and winning. I have for once bite the my fingers by that strategy. I was having mid loses in most of my games and then I saw this new guy that was hot that was winning that time, I follow up and instead of me to stake what I can afford to lose, I stake everything and guess what? I lost everything because  stake everything trying to chase my lost under 1 game. Hardluck that I don't pray to experience again in my life.
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November 18, 2023, 01:55:23 PM
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I myself do not understand poker very well, but I have played it, indeed some say that poker is also related to arithmetic in other words math. When I played poker I didn't think about it, I just played along with the game while understanding the flow of the poker game.  And over time I found out about the arrangement of cards to get victory, with the arrangement of cards that will determine the victory, and the cards held by us must also enter with the cards on the table to enter the highest card arrangement.
It is true that you say there is little chance of luck in poker because in my opinion it is also difficult to arrange the cards held with the cards on the table, and some say this one game is difficult to cheat. I also think that way, because with the card divider running the game it seems difficult, but I don't know if with expert poker players, maybe they know how to cheat this game hahaha.

I also don't understand how to play poker but what I know for sure, it's a game that's not easy, actually I'm quite curious about how he uses mathematical formulas when playing poker, does it work! However, poker is not a child's game, only smart people can master it and win it like the person in the OP. but I am very interested in OP's view that school is not important, surely all poker players who win big money have gone to school, it's just that their fate is different, at any time school will be the most important thing for mankind, without school it will be difficult for people gain knowledge.

While poker is not something again that is very difficult to play I think the people who are saying that poker is a skill based or a difficult game to play they haven't tried it or never wish to learn it.
I will suggest everyone to at least try to learn poker and try to play it few times and you will feel that it is not only an easy game to play but at the same time it is very appealing and interesting game.

Also not everything needs to be learn through schooling or academic stuff ,some things are just like a common sense and you can use online tutorials about poker , a lot of YouTube videos and free stuff available to everyone of us interesting to learn poker first and then enjoying and playing gambling platforms.
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November 18, 2023, 01:38:31 PM
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I myself do not understand poker very well, but I have played it, indeed some say that poker is also related to arithmetic in other words math. When I played poker I didn't think about it, I just played along with the game while understanding the flow of the poker game.  And over time I found out about the arrangement of cards to get victory, with the arrangement of cards that will determine the victory, and the cards held by us must also enter with the cards on the table to enter the highest card arrangement.
It is true that you say there is little chance of luck in poker because in my opinion it is also difficult to arrange the cards held with the cards on the table, and some say this one game is difficult to cheat. I also think that way, because with the card divider running the game it seems difficult, but I don't know if with expert poker players, maybe they know how to cheat this game hahaha.

I also don't understand how to play poker but what I know for sure, it's a game that's not easy, actually I'm quite curious about how he uses mathematical formulas when playing poker, does it work! However, poker is not a child's game, only smart people can master it and win it like the person in the OP. but I am very interested in OP's view that school is not important, surely all poker players who win big money have gone to school, it's just that their fate is different, at any time school will be the most important thing for mankind, without school it will be difficult for people gain knowledge.
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November 18, 2023, 01:18:50 PM
#94
The fact that a professional player makes millions is a neon sign.

The results in a game like poker vary greatly with individuals, there are many guides to follow that recommend but that does not imply success.

Chris Ferguson is a thief, he was part of the board that knew about the fulltilt debacle.  It is not the best reference, playing with money that is not yours is easy.
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November 18, 2023, 10:09:17 AM
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Also, a person who masters mathematics will not win the lottery, we all know that lottery winners are most of the time people who do not have great mathematical skills and who have no idea about managing finances, which is why most lottery winners they become poor after a few years. In slot games, it depends on luck, so math is good and useless in slot games.

You don't really need to overthink these games; they're pure luck. Just roll with the luck and hopefully, you win. Bringing math into the mix just makes things unnecessarily complicated, and you might find yourself going a bit crazy, LOL.

Having a grasp of the game and our odds is fundamental. Without that, we're just being irresponsible gamblers. Unless we're not taking it too seriously and just doing it for fun, then it's all good.


In sports betting, mathematics helps a little with statistics, but without good knowledge about the history of teams and players and without following the news, then mathematics becomes less effective.

I find keeping up with the news easier than diving into mathematics. Some websites offer free sports statistics, which can be useful. However, the real challenge lies in analyzing the data and figuring out if it can boost our chances of winning. While winning in sports betting is possible without heavy math, the real key to consistent success is letting math guide your decisions.
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November 18, 2023, 09:38:32 AM
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gambling consists of probabilities. Even if a person is the most intelligent in the world, even if that person is playing in a casino, they will have a greater chance of going bankrupt due to having lost all their money in the casinos. I've seen many people saying that a person who knows mathematics very well could be successful at poker. but we have to take into account the fact that at the poker table there are also more intelligent people, good at mathematics and good strategists. Therefore, thinking that since you know mathematics, you will get it right to the point of profiting from poker, would be an illusory and misleading thought.

Also, a person who masters mathematics will not win the lottery, we all know that lottery winners are most of the time people who do not have great mathematical skills and who have no idea about managing finances, which is why most lottery winners they become poor after a few years. In slot games, it depends on luck, so math is good and useless in slot games. In sports betting, mathematics helps a little with statistics, but without good knowledge about the history of teams and players and without following the news, then mathematics becomes less effective.
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November 18, 2023, 09:17:51 AM
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If you are not good at maths then there is no reason for you to think that you are only going to lose at betting, it is wrong to think that if you are not good at maths you cannot win by betting. Gambling certainly requires calculations, but you don't need to have an advanced degree in mathematics to calculate the amount of calculations that will be required, but you can do them in a simple way. Many times our calculations are all right but in the middle our luck doesn't help. A few days ago, Argentina and Uruguay played there, but in the calculation, Argentina advanced, but in the performance of the field, Argentina was defeated, that is, luck played a very important role here. So there's no need to get frustrated thinking that you're not good at math, apply your strategy properly, even if you don't know good math, you'll be successful in gambling.
Yes, you are right in what you say because, in a match, there will definitely be surprises beyond our expectations so we also have to take this into account. Maybe what I do is compare the data without calculating using mathematics, which is too complicated, so I use basic mathematics. It can also give an idea about each team, especially since I can get a lot of accurate information so that I can choose a team that has a bigger chance than the opposing team. I also often pay attention to teams that are not favored because, often, these teams can provide a better performance, especially when playing. They don't look like they have a heavy burden. They can perform well and win against their favorite team.
When we study in school life or college life, we have many other subjects including mathematics, physics, chemistry, whose formulas have to be read very carefully and whose mathematical solutions have to be done very happily, but in real life, those formulas are not very useful to us. In real life we need the right experience and skills for specific jobs. When I finish my education, I will work in a company, but the owner of that company will not do the calculations for me but will do the work for me. If we understand maths less but understand the specific work very well then the company will be satisfied by me. If we succeed in gambling without accounting then I don't think there is much need for accounting in gambling.
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