Topic: Mattew N. Wright still passing off a scam in the past as just a "prank" - page 2. (Read 3366 times)

Don't think pirate will payout as promised?
If you truly believe that Pirate is a scam/ponzi, then this is a no-brainer easy money for you.

Post in this thread how much you're committing and I will double that amount you commit (maximum of 10,000BTC in bets allowed in this thread total) if Pirate does not pay out in 3 weeks as he described in his thread.

To make your bets easier to read, please stick to the following format:
Code:
20BTC
13dSK4663Ts7j2PwHS1eUVjycKLBwx7PJM
Optional comment

The above post would be betting 20BTC that he in fact is not going to payout as described. If I lose the bet, you get 20BTC sent to that address. If you lose, you'll need to send 20BTC to my address.

Anyone (including myself) who renigs on their bets will be labeled a scammer on the forums. Theymos will retain the IP addresses of everyone who has committed here and as you are marked a scammer for not paying, you will also be reported to the bitcoin police and tracked. For this reason, it is important that you do not bet more than you can afford to lose. Considering the high probability of fraud from newbie sockpuppets, only established 250+ post users will be allowed to participate, unless they participate through an escrow who will hold their coins. This is up to them to find the escrow although many posters in this thread have agreed to act as such.

The minimum commitment is 0.1BTC. The maximum default bet for normal users is currently 1000BTC per person. If you would like to wager more, please PM so that I may do a more extensive verification of identity and holdings. Thanks.

Disclaimer: Although I think pirate is a high risk venture due to a complete lack of transparency on his part, I am sorely reminded that the forum needs to be taught a lesson when it comes to crying wolf on things without evidence. It's getting sickening. "SCAM! SCAM! SCAM!". So put your money where your mouth and bet for a better bitcoin forum/community overall.


For the record, the address to remit your funds to if you indeed lose is 13dSK4663Ts7j2PwHS1eUVjycKLBwx7PJM

Thank you and good luck!

I reserve the right to lock this thread and stop accepting additional bets at any time. All existing bets in the thread will still be honored regardless.

I will be waiting.

Thanks for sharing your opinion smoothie. I'm not sure if I can call it a "wrong" opinion just because I hadn't realized or acted on any supposed benefits, but I admit that once I heard the speculative arguments from some intelligent community members I knew what kind of mistake I made and that it wouldn't be easy to forget about and move on. As for your own bet, you're on a long list of people I haven't neglected contacting, and the second your turn is up you'll get a super happy message from me. 

Reneging on a bet is 100% a scam

Your "prank" pumped up the value of bad pirate debt

You caused people

Disclaimer : I did not have a wager with MNW.


MNW set up a wagering scheme last year.  This scheme was set up in such a way where it was impossible for him to lose and impossible for anyone else to win.  He took in wagers knowing that there was the escape clause of calling the wager a "joke" or a "lesson" or whatever if he lost.  There was many opportunities for him to stop the wager and come clean - he didn't.   

If the wager went in his favor, do you think the outcome of calling it a "prank" would have occurred?  In my mind, absolutely not. 

I would agree were it not for this thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1497432

This looks like repentance to me.

You have no integrity, and you demonstrate that post after post. You are NOT TO BE TRUSTED, and this is clear to everybody in these forums.

GTFO TLDR; all this legal mumbo-jumbo and whining

hon·or [on-er]
noun

1. honesty, fairness, or integrity in one's beliefs, actions, and words

If you accept the fact that people trusted in him, regardless of his underlaying intent and he failed to follow through with what he said he would do then I completely agree, untrustworthy is an appropriate tag

I hadn't seen this thread before. Apologies if my previous post came off as condemning you (it really wasn't meant to).

I remember the first time I came across your posts from when I first joined. They were so raw with youth and people wouldn't give you a chance.

I left the forums for about a year and came back to the whole Pirate debacle.

I imagine there's been plenty of time for personal growth since those early posts and it's humbling to see you're still working hard to build a community and that you're doing your best to correct a mistake.

All the best

"Surely matthew would have taken the money if he had won"
"There is no way he wasn't serious because no one would have gone to such lengths to troll"

Everytime I read opinions like these itjiat reminds me how scattered and poor and poorly I've presented myself the last two years. I'm quite happy I'm not suffering from that problem as badly these days and I accept that the owners of windows I broke will always think what they want, but my integrity is not up for bargaining.

What I'm doing now is basically settling that I crossed a line when I fooled others whom I thought were ignorant at the time (I was a bit manic). The several bitcoiners who lived with me can attest to the constant laughing and making fun of super serious old men who thought they'd win millions of dollars from a forum bet. It wasn't the right way to handle those people. Looking back, I'm ashamed I didn't take the high road. I'm more ashamed I put myself into a situation where others could so easily start threads questioning my integrity and not be immediately laughed at.

Life is hardly over though, and I'm happy to be given a chance to make things right for everyone who was involved. As for people who weren't involved, my advice would be to stop putting people in situations that require so much trust in the first place. That's the only lesson that matters for you.

Prank or not, scam or not, he has made great progress resolving the issue - whatever you choose to call it:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1497432

In the long run that is all that really matters.  People make mistakes, they pay for their mistakes, they learn and grow - I know I have.

Uhh sorry to jump in here because I guess it's none of my business, but I don't see why you have a scammer tag.
You didn't take any money, therefore it wasn't a scam.
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It dilutes the meaning of the tag to have you carrying it if this is the only reason.

Contracts 101.  
Any agreement whether verbal, or written is considered a valid contract binding on both parties unless it fails certain criteria.
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p.s.  I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice, just armchair analysis.