Well, it was expected for them to be like this, there are people who are professional and try to do whatever is the right call on every stressed opportunity, just like the call operator on some comcast type work where customer is screaming and cursing and telling stuff that would normally a fight reason but the call operator responds calmly because that is what professionalism requires. And there are people like mavenbets, they started out on 12th of November, just couple months ago and on 13th November they responded someone with "if you don't like it don't play no need to shittalk", and now they just made a huge problem with this scam deal and what not. It was really expected for this website to be going to waste from the first day, in the first 24 hours it was already obvious they will not become a big website.
Since, this scam thing happen they are not even active here so we can assume this is yet another dead casino.
Topic: MavenBets.com - New Crypto Casino - Looking for Partners & Investors (Read 18930 times)
February 02, 2019, 12:15:15 PM
February 01, 2019, 11:31:42 PM
I no longer expect a response on the scam accusation topic: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mavenbets-doesnt-process-my-withdraw-since-december-beware-5102670
But I want to leave the door open for a change. You know how much money you can make running a successful gamblingsite? I gave you bad trust and reported your site on https://www.badbitcoin.org, but I don't think that at all needs to mean the end of your business.
If you at any time make the decision to process my withdraw after all, bad trust will be replaced with good trust and a transaction ID of the withdraw will be posted on all topics related to confirm and verify the fact that you would have paid. Also badbitcoin.org would be requested to remove the site.
I advice you to do the right thing for your business, and for logic's sake with such a significance in difference in money to be made in the approach with your business.
I hope the best for you and no hard feelings,
Make love, not war! <3 :-)
But I want to leave the door open for a change. You know how much money you can make running a successful gamblingsite? I gave you bad trust and reported your site on https://www.badbitcoin.org, but I don't think that at all needs to mean the end of your business.
If you at any time make the decision to process my withdraw after all, bad trust will be replaced with good trust and a transaction ID of the withdraw will be posted on all topics related to confirm and verify the fact that you would have paid. Also badbitcoin.org would be requested to remove the site.
I advice you to do the right thing for your business, and for logic's sake with such a significance in difference in money to be made in the approach with your business.
I hope the best for you and no hard feelings,
Make love, not war! <3 :-)
Thanks for the confirmation, now we all know that there is one valid scam accusation and expect that because of what they do, this business will never succeed, it will be part of the failed scammers in the gambling world. Good luck on your next journey OP, I hope you will be able to find a good one.
February 01, 2019, 11:16:03 PM
I no longer expect a response on the scam accusation topic: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mavenbets-doesnt-process-my-withdraw-since-december-beware-5102670
But I want to leave the door open for a change. You know how much money you can make running a successful gamblingsite? I gave you bad trust and reported your site on https://www.badbitcoin.org, but I don't think that at all needs to mean the end of your business.
If you at any time make the decision to process my withdraw after all, bad trust will be replaced with good trust and a transaction ID of the withdraw will be posted on all topics related to confirm and verify the fact that you would have paid. Also badbitcoin.org would be requested to remove the site.
I advice you to do the right thing for your business, and for logic's sake with such a significance in difference in money to be made in the approach with your business.
I hope the best for you and no hard feelings,
Make love, not war! <3 :-)
If they are serious about running thier business, this message will have a weight for them, starting and running a business needs trust coming from both visitors and players, if they failed to gained this then the business will be ruined, they need to their best covering and resolving this issue.But I want to leave the door open for a change. You know how much money you can make running a successful gamblingsite? I gave you bad trust and reported your site on https://www.badbitcoin.org, but I don't think that at all needs to mean the end of your business.
If you at any time make the decision to process my withdraw after all, bad trust will be replaced with good trust and a transaction ID of the withdraw will be posted on all topics related to confirm and verify the fact that you would have paid. Also badbitcoin.org would be requested to remove the site.
I advice you to do the right thing for your business, and for logic's sake with such a significance in difference in money to be made in the approach with your business.
I hope the best for you and no hard feelings,
Make love, not war! <3 :-)
Good for you not to closing your door with OP, giving them chances will allow them to settled this concern. Good luck
February 01, 2019, 10:26:54 PM
I no longer expect a response on the scam accusation topic: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mavenbets-doesnt-process-my-withdraw-since-december-beware-5102670
But I want to leave the door open for a change. You know how much money you can make running a successful gamblingsite? I gave you bad trust and reported your site on https://www.badbitcoin.org, but I don't think that at all needs to mean the end of your business.
If you at any time make the decision to process my withdraw after all, bad trust will be replaced with good trust and a transaction ID of the withdraw will be posted on all topics related to confirm and verify the fact that you would have paid. Also badbitcoin.org would be requested to remove the site.
I advice you to do the right thing for your business, and for logic's sake with such a significance in difference in money to be made in the approach with your business.
I hope the best for you and no hard feelings,
Make love, not war! <3 :-)
The best way to deal with loss or fraud is to give it up, but I don't know the truth that happened. But I want to leave the door open for a change. You know how much money you can make running a successful gamblingsite? I gave you bad trust and reported your site on https://www.badbitcoin.org, but I don't think that at all needs to mean the end of your business.
If you at any time make the decision to process my withdraw after all, bad trust will be replaced with good trust and a transaction ID of the withdraw will be posted on all topics related to confirm and verify the fact that you would have paid. Also badbitcoin.org would be requested to remove the site.
I advice you to do the right thing for your business, and for logic's sake with such a significance in difference in money to be made in the approach with your business.
I hope the best for you and no hard feelings,
Make love, not war! <3 :-)
But the intention of a deceitful person won't stop at redtrust or badtrust only, they can create a new account or a new gambling place for other frauds.
So, I only suggest when you are sincere not to ramble about the fraud that you experience is to improve yourself so as not to repeat the same mistakes, as well as other people especially those who are new to online gambling who use cryptocurrency, so as in the future gambling place who use cryptocurrency can develop and grow without a fraud.
February 01, 2019, 09:14:27 PM
I no longer expect a response on the scam accusation topic: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mavenbets-doesnt-process-my-withdraw-since-december-beware-5102670
But I want to leave the door open for a change. You know how much money you can make running a successful gamblingsite? I gave you bad trust and reported your site on https://www.badbitcoin.org, but I don't think that at all needs to mean the end of your business.
If you at any time make the decision to process my withdraw after all, bad trust will be replaced with good trust and a transaction ID of the withdraw will be posted on all topics related to confirm and verify the fact that you would have paid. Also badbitcoin.org would be requested to remove the site.
I advice you to do the right thing for your business, and for logic's sake with such a significance in difference in money to be made in the approach with your business.
I hope the best for you and no hard feelings,
Make love, not war! <3 :-)
But I want to leave the door open for a change. You know how much money you can make running a successful gamblingsite? I gave you bad trust and reported your site on https://www.badbitcoin.org, but I don't think that at all needs to mean the end of your business.
If you at any time make the decision to process my withdraw after all, bad trust will be replaced with good trust and a transaction ID of the withdraw will be posted on all topics related to confirm and verify the fact that you would have paid. Also badbitcoin.org would be requested to remove the site.
I advice you to do the right thing for your business, and for logic's sake with such a significance in difference in money to be made in the approach with your business.
I hope the best for you and no hard feelings,
Make love, not war! <3 :-)
January 27, 2019, 06:25:09 PM
A very simple professional question and the owner has no idea how to answer it correctly is already a bad sign that this is not legit.
They now have a report in the scam accusation thread created by KarinaKarina, not that much money involved but it's important it will be settled, if they cannot settle this small problem, so they don't deserve our support.
They now have a report in the scam accusation thread created by KarinaKarina, not that much money involved but it's important it will be settled, if they cannot settle this small problem, so they don't deserve our support.
Kind reminder
Name of the operator and where you are incorporated?
Or do you operate it anonymously?
Who is the operator?
What does that mean? We operate itName of the operator and where you are incorporated?
Or do you operate it anonymously?
January 27, 2019, 12:44:22 PM
Kind reminder
Name of the operator and where you are incorporated?
Or do you operate it anonymously?
Who is the operator?
What does that mean? We operate itName of the operator and where you are incorporated?
Or do you operate it anonymously?
January 27, 2019, 12:39:56 PM
Hey, I placed a withdraw on your website, 0.0026 btc, I've tried contacting support ''please update profile'' is the error I got. In chat no response, contact form also leads to no response.
I'm not sure how else to contact you about my unprocessed withdraw.. Username Thingy.
Thank you!
I'm not sure how else to contact you about my unprocessed withdraw.. Username Thingy.
Thank you!
Pmed you
Where? I do not see PM
January 26, 2019, 08:18:23 PM
https://www.sythe.org/threads/magebets-owner-admits-to-federal-crimes-of-ddosing-and-extortion-on-video/
Magebets merged with another runescape gambling sites, but maven is the same site.
For further proof, try the facebook link on the faucet page. It redirects to a removed facebook page for magebets.
Hello Graham.
I hope you're unwell.
-Addicted.
Magebets merged with another runescape gambling sites, but maven is the same site.
For further proof, try the facebook link on the faucet page. It redirects to a removed facebook page for magebets.
Hello Graham.
I hope you're unwell.
-Addicted.
January 26, 2019, 07:43:26 PM
Hey, I placed a withdraw on your website, 0.0026 btc, I've tried contacting support ''please update profile'' is the error I got. In chat no response, contact form also leads to no response.
I'm not sure how else to contact you about my unprocessed withdraw.. Username Thingy.
Thank you!
I'm not sure how else to contact you about my unprocessed withdraw.. Username Thingy.
Thank you!
Pmed you
December 31, 2018, 09:53:07 PM
Hey, I placed a withdraw on your website, 0.0026 btc, I've tried contacting support ''please update profile'' is the error I got. In chat no response, contact form also leads to no response.
I'm not sure how else to contact you about my unprocessed withdraw.. Username Thingy.
Thank you!
I'm not sure how else to contact you about my unprocessed withdraw.. Username Thingy.
Thank you!
November 21, 2018, 11:18:16 PM
which terms and condition you offer for your partners and investors? Can investor contribute via fiat?
Yes, @Bitgas on telegram for more info
November 21, 2018, 11:15:25 AM
which terms and condition you offer for your partners and investors? Can investor contribute via fiat?
November 20, 2018, 11:53:27 PM
Added Roll Over/Roll Under!
November 18, 2018, 10:36:59 PM
an interesting read, what did you do to prevent this kind of abuse in the future?
talking about wager spamming, also how on earth was the bot nulling the bets?
you are not talking about dice sites, are you?
and you are right, there is literally an industry of extorting the buisenesses that rely on their sites to be online, online businesses like crypto casinos are prime targets
think the largest ones have learned how to deal with it , either paying for extra layers of protection or paying the attackers so they disclose the methods of the attack
in any case- running and developing an online casino is not an easy task
Good question. First, we did our own internal testing. Then hired a security team to help bulletproof our system. Both of those tests helped us upgrade the security. You always miss something. These hackers (No offense to them) found them. They exploited the system. We then found the exploits and made some patches for each instance.
We always were able to find the exploits. Well, at least we think we found the exploits. We have never paid for any ransom or info from the hackers.
About the wager spamming. The "null bet" feature was on our end. Most software providers have separate data connection points (sockets) to shuttle info back in forth to reduce latency. They spammed the bets and then used our "clear bets" feature. It was very interesting to see. The first 50k was scary. When we saw he had a 140% payout on roulette with a large number of bets, we knew something was up.
November 18, 2018, 09:47:39 PM
has nothing to do with this site, false accusations and what does nsfw etc have to do with this thread? why are u talking about runescape? this is crypto gambling, not runescape
are you retarded?
i'm talking about runescape because you lied,cheated,scammed and what, think it all goes away when you change the domain?
See exactly what i said, anytime someone brings up something he doesn't like he avoids and changes the subject. it's clear how my points are related.
November 18, 2018, 07:05:50 PM
has nothing to do with this site, false accusations and what does nsfw etc have to do with this thread? why are u talking about runescape? this is crypto gambling, not runescape
November 17, 2018, 03:15:17 PM
this sites old name is, magebets just google it and you will see why you shouldn't trust it.
The admin was ddosing other runescape gambling competitors.
when i tried the site there was countless multiloggers in the poker room, the admin shrugged it off.
when i asked what the house bankroll was he didn't understand the concept, the site has no wagering limits and no proof of funds, then he replied "i have an investor who put up a million dollars" that's right, someone invested a million in his "runescape currency casino"
Every announcement the admin has ever made has been about nsfw referral banners, and suggestions, about those banners.
This is either a kid trying to steal, or a retarded adult trying to sell clickbait.
"First version"
https://www.sythe.org/threads/magebets-scam-report-magebets/
theres more post, but the original "magebets" has already been permanently banned from this forum, the owner claims he sold the site "if he did" op should post some kind of ownership transfer proof.
Site is not provably fair, that's it. Instead of making it provably fair you are trying to convince people that it already is. I am done here.
We just haven't added the page to see server seed histories. If you don't like the site, don't play, no need to shittalk.
This is obviously not good behavior of an admin or owner of a new gambling site. You really need to accept any feedback, complain, suggestion etc. His main concern is about the most important thing of a gambling site, which is about provably fair system. He thinks that your site is not provably fair, but if you think it is provably fair already then you can just explain it. Simple as that. I don't have good knowledge about provably fair system, so I'll wait for more experts about it to come here and confirm about your system.
The way he acts seem exactly the same to me, he avoids and dismisses any real issues, when ever someone has a solid argument he plays the victim "further avoiding it" and, unprofessional with no plan other then getting people to deposit.
The admin was ddosing other runescape gambling competitors.
when i tried the site there was countless multiloggers in the poker room, the admin shrugged it off.
when i asked what the house bankroll was he didn't understand the concept, the site has no wagering limits and no proof of funds, then he replied "i have an investor who put up a million dollars" that's right, someone invested a million in his "runescape currency casino"
Every announcement the admin has ever made has been about nsfw referral banners, and suggestions, about those banners.
This is either a kid trying to steal, or a retarded adult trying to sell clickbait.
I do understand provably fair, this is just the first version of the website so it's not exactly perfect.
I posted it here to get some feedback, didn't expect people to start derepping me straight away...
I posted it here to get some feedback, didn't expect people to start derepping me straight away...
"First version"
https://www.sythe.org/threads/magebets-scam-report-magebets/
theres more post, but the original "magebets" has already been permanently banned from this forum, the owner claims he sold the site "if he did" op should post some kind of ownership transfer proof.
You're changing the client seed, not the server seed
I am not sure which part of my post you don't understand. Site is not provably fair, that's it. Instead of making it provably fair you are trying to convince people that it already is. I am done here.
We just haven't added the page to see server seed histories. If you don't like the site, don't play, no need to shittalk.
This is obviously not good behavior of an admin or owner of a new gambling site. You really need to accept any feedback, complain, suggestion etc. His main concern is about the most important thing of a gambling site, which is about provably fair system. He thinks that your site is not provably fair, but if you think it is provably fair already then you can just explain it. Simple as that. I don't have good knowledge about provably fair system, so I'll wait for more experts about it to come here and confirm about your system.
The way he acts seem exactly the same to me, he avoids and dismisses any real issues, when ever someone has a solid argument he plays the victim "further avoiding it" and, unprofessional with no plan other then getting people to deposit.
November 17, 2018, 07:42:13 AM
BEWARE OF THIS !
.....
After i saw it for the first time i got into my profile and changed the client seed to "notfuckingabcdef" as you can see here
https://prnt.sc/lhh1ic
and the seed in the dice request stays the same + theres no onsite way to verify the rolls
...
.....
After i saw it for the first time i got into my profile and changed the client seed to "notfuckingabcdef" as you can see here
https://prnt.sc/lhh1ic
and the seed in the dice request stays the same + theres no onsite way to verify the rolls
...
Most good developers can make a casino platform and games. The difficulty is the security in the system. Everything from user authentication, session management, , cross-browser usability, responsive design as well as every other possible scenario you could never imagine. Trust me on this. I spent 2 years developing ours, and we still find issues on occasion. Forum members here helped us find one just yesterday. It is a never-ending process that requires constant tweaking and upgrades through time. Here are a few of the issues we uncovered while developing our platform and game integrations.
Our biggest "Oh Sh$$T moments".
(1) Session IDs. In the beginning (4 years ago). We had sequential session IDs, and not random ideas. One player figured this out and started playing with funds of other users who were online at the same time. This did not cost us anything but time and explaining to the affected players what happened.
(2) Wager spamming. About the same time, another player ( or the same one) developed a spam bot that made 1000's of bets per second. Each bet placed was nulled immediately. This was like a DDOS to the system, forcing the system to accept bets after the result was seen on the screen. This caused the result to be available before the bet was placed. SO, the system gave the result, and then the bot finally placed the bet that was correct. The player won 300k in 3 days. We actually paid out 20k before we found out what this guy was doing. He had consistently about 150% payout ratio for live roulette. The scary thing is, that if the player was not greedy, he could have milked us for years. Thankfully, he was greedy.
(3) Bonus abuse. I'll save this for another time, but bonus abuse is a real issue.
ok, so my list was not long. The underlining truth is that there are way smarter people out there who could crush you. It's simple as that. God forbid you cheat a player. That brings me to #4.
(4) Ethics: I can not stress this one enough. If you cheat anyone you will be shut down by the geniuses in #2. I've seen it. Actually, it doesn't take a genius to shut someone down. It only takes a blackhater who has access to DDOS attack. Even if there is DDOS protection, you can still shut them down and/or casue them to have so much latency that they can not function normally. I've seen this scenario play out with other brands a number of times. It doesn't take much.
If I had to build another system today, I wouldn't. I would spend time marketing and less on dev.
an interesting read, what did you do to prevent this kind of abuse in the future?
talking about wager spamming, also how on earth was the bot nulling the bets?
you are not talking about dice sites, are you?
and you are right, there is literally an industry of extorting the buisenesses that rely on their sites to be online, online businesses like crypto casinos are prime targets
think the largest ones have learned how to deal with it , either paying for extra layers of protection or paying the attackers so they disclose the methods of the attack
in any case- running and developing an online casino is not an easy task
November 16, 2018, 07:13:09 PM
Added a modal that shows all previous server seeds!
Smart decision. I checked few rolls, have verified them(which is main purpose of provably fair system) and numbers match. What is max bet/win amount?
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