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This thought came to mind when I started to notice the publicity that Max Keiser is getting online and in the press for Bitcoin.

I don't know enough about Mr. Keiser to comment on him particularly, but it occurred to me that we are potentially entering a period of time when Bitcoin "Demagogues" might begin to rise- profiting off of the publicity and the success of bitcoin.

The community that's been around for a bit longer will recount how paranoid we have been in alternating periods about Gavins stewardship of the code, but I think that paranoia should pale in comparison to the threat that real demagogues might pose to bitcoin. Max Keiser himself aside, there could be a significant danger, both real and existential, from any one individual that the 'outside world' might begin to identify as the face, or worse, "oracle" of bitcoin.

Being that Bitcoin is Open source, and thus like money- there is probably very little we can do about it. However those whom have been around even longer will remember acutely how the development of the internet was hijacked by corporate money once it's true potential became both obvious and inevitable.

Of course, not that I wouldn't mind some "Oracle" taking bitcoin to the moon and making us all millionaires, but it is reasonable to fear that just such a profit incentive might induce us to be complicit parties, or worse- the Bitcoin Foundation to be a complicit party.

Demagogues are a dangerous and inevitable product of fear and financial insecurity. Mix the current world economic situation with something that over-promises as much as Bitcoin does, and you're driving your Bitcoin Porsche drunk down the economic super highway.


(To Mr. Keiser, if he is reading this- honestly, i'm not talking about you, just using your success in the press as a growing face of bitcoin as an example. By all means- help make us millionaires.)

I've written here.
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the border between entertainment and propaganda was never well defined. finally all this happens on russia today. propaganda, agenda, exploiting public opinion. anarcho capitalists jumping from arabian global tv to russian global tv. grotesk!
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Max claims on his truth about markets show on www.resonancefm.com to be broadcast on 23/2/2014 that he lost all his bitcoin. His private equity company hesinborg capital is an investor in bitpay.
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Just think what max coin will go to when he changes his name to max coin on the coin report!
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Max has had BTC for a while now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t39jCXXIrY


Yeah, I'm pretty sure he already has lots of Bitcoin as he's been promoting them for a while, but I'm sceptical of him having millions worth.

Max claimed on his show, when they were outside in nyc last winter, to be a bitcoin millionaire when it traded at $46.

Lol how is he still working.

He also owns/co-owns a private equity company called hesingborg capital and is launching a crowd funding website for artists/musicians using bitcoin soon. https://www.startjoin.com/register-your-interest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXELH90-1j0 max claims to be a bitcoin millionaire at 1m55, 7m40, 11m39 and 11m44 9th march 2013
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Max has had BTC for a while now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t39jCXXIrY


Yeah, I'm pretty sure he already has lots of Bitcoin as he's been promoting them for a while, but I'm sceptical of him having millions worth.

Max claimed on his show, when they were outside in nyc last winter, to be a bitcoin millionaire when it traded at $46.

Lol how is he still working.
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Max has had BTC for a while now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t39jCXXIrY


Yeah, I'm pretty sure he already has lots of Bitcoin as he's been promoting them for a while, but I'm sceptical of him having millions worth.

Max claimed on his show, when they were outside in nyc last winter, to be a bitcoin millionaire when it traded at $46.
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So I guess I was too late with this thread, huh?

He may "pump" be he doesn't intend to "dump". As he ravages against the central banking system all the time, I feel he believes Bitcoin needs a strong backing in capital to be ready for the fight.

If he makes us all rich- I guess I can't complain.

So, now that Max Keiser has his own alt-coin and is using his personal clout to bring on services very quickly- I feel my original post more relevant then ever.
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This is going to ruin bitcoin.
I guess this is good news coming from someone who has never had a correct prediction

I used to like Keiser, but now I'm starting to think he's just a troll.

I'm pretty skeptical about his tweet today regarding a billion in potential investments lined up. If he actually was interested in making a serious investment and guiding others to do so he'd want to keep the price low until he bought them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Keiser#Crash_JP_Morgan.E2.80.94buy_silver

He's been known to be a manipulator in the past, my prediction is that he already has btc.

Max has had BTC for a while now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t39jCXXIrY

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he already has lots of Bitcoin as he's been promoting them for a while, but I'm sceptical of him having millions worth.

He has one of the largest addresses i think, top 20 or something

Source, and what's his address?
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This is going to ruin bitcoin.
I guess this is good news coming from someone who has never had a correct prediction

I used to like Keiser, but now I'm starting to think he's just a troll.

I'm pretty skeptical about his tweet today regarding a billion in potential investments lined up. If he actually was interested in making a serious investment and guiding others to do so he'd want to keep the price low until he bought them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Keiser#Crash_JP_Morgan.E2.80.94buy_silver

He's been known to be a manipulator in the past, my prediction is that he already has btc.

Max has had BTC for a while now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t39jCXXIrY

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he already has lots of Bitcoin as he's been promoting them for a while, but I'm sceptical of him having millions worth.

He has one of the largest addresses i think, top 20 or something
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This is going to ruin bitcoin.
I guess this is good news coming from someone who has never had a correct prediction

I used to like Keiser, but now I'm starting to think he's just a troll.

I'm pretty skeptical about his tweet today regarding a billion in potential investments lined up. If he actually was interested in making a serious investment and guiding others to do so he'd want to keep the price low until he bought them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Keiser#Crash_JP_Morgan.E2.80.94buy_silver

He's been known to be a manipulator in the past, my prediction is that he already has btc.

Max has had BTC for a while now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t39jCXXIrY

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he already has lots of Bitcoin as he's been promoting them for a while, but I'm sceptical of him having millions worth.
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I'm pretty skeptical about his tweet today regarding a billion in potential investments lined up. If he actually was interested in making a serious investment and guiding others to do so he'd want to keep the price low until he bought them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Keiser#Crash_JP_Morgan.E2.80.94buy_silver

He's been known to be a manipulator in the past, my prediction is that he already has btc.

Max has had BTC for a while now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t39jCXXIrY
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I'm pretty skeptical about his tweet today regarding a billion in potential investments lined up. If he actually was interested in making a serious investment and guiding others to do so he'd want to keep the price low until he bought them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Keiser#Crash_JP_Morgan.E2.80.94buy_silver

He's been known to be a manipulator in the past, my prediction is that he already has btc.

If he was interested in making a serious investment and guiding others to do so, he'd make a serious investment, and then continue by guiding others to do so.

 Huh

... Which is exactly what you're accusing him of doing?

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but it is reasonable to fear that just such a profit incentive might induce us to be complicit parties, or worse- the Bitcoin Foundation to be a complicit party.

such eyebrows

                            much incentives


         wow
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Crackpots like Keiser, Wagner or Taaki will end up hurting bitcoins.
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Max The Great will keep kickin' butt 4 ever!
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I'm pretty skeptical about his tweet today regarding a billion in potential investments lined up. If he actually was interested in making a serious investment and guiding others to do so he'd want to keep the price low until he bought them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Keiser#Crash_JP_Morgan.E2.80.94buy_silver

He's been known to be a manipulator in the past, my prediction is that he already has btc.
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