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Steem has the same like system of Facebook.  While I'm not super serious about this, just like throwing out some ideas and talking about it, I can see a system existing more like the old Myspace, which maybe can be for the underdog types that don't like the Egotism of FB.  
I wasn't thinking, also, of doing more things for money, but somehow just interacting with it giving you money, like how much stuff you do, verses people voting on it, giving you more money (Steem).  So, if Grandma wanted to send out to her friends pictures of her grandchildren, no one could vote on if her grandkids or she was cool.   Passive aggression doesn't have to off grannie in my system.

My point was rather, that if in social interactions, there is a suspicion of monetary interest, then the social value of it falls to zero.  If I write posts on a forum to discuss, and to a certain extend, to "give some social weight" to my ideas, then if people would somehow know that I do this for the financial gain it brings me, it would ruin the social value of my contributions.  Confusing social success with "getting money for it" is in my opinion a fundamental mistake.  If people write articles because they want to get paid for it by their readers, then these articles lose their social value ; that is, the writer is then seen as a professional, producing articles to win money, and not because he has something to say.  People will write articles that are studied to please and attract donations, clicks, whatever it is that generates revenue, and not to give out a social posture.    Writing for money already exists: it is called journalism.  The writings by journalists are business ; they are not "social interaction".  From the moment they do it for money, they can't do it "for social interaction".  In the same way a call girl has sex for money, and has nothing to do with amorous feelings.

I agree with most of your post.  But writing for supporting oneself is out?  I guess you'll have to do away with all published authors and professional journalists through history.  That's the first point after reading your post.  The rest of points I could make is that I think you're mistaking my intention.  It's simply using the new social network which would create coins....if someone uses it a lot, maybe the people on their network will realize maybe this person needs money and have a charitable view on them.  Most are conditioned to look down on people that need money as some kind of pariah in waiting.  That's how the TV commercials and shows paints things, so that we can escape that misery by buying whatever thing (or opinion) they are selling us.

A lot of times people misunderstand what they are reading because it's a new idea.  I write clearly, I have a BA in English composition.

hero member
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Steem has the same like system of Facebook.  While I'm not super serious about this, just like throwing out some ideas and talking about it, I can see a system existing more like the old Myspace, which maybe can be for the underdog types that don't like the Egotism of FB. 
I wasn't thinking, also, of doing more things for money, but somehow just interacting with it giving you money, like how much stuff you do, verses people voting on it, giving you more money (Steem).  So, if Grandma wanted to send out to her friends pictures of her grandchildren, no one could vote on if her grandkids or she was cool.   Passive aggression doesn't have to off grannie in my system.

My point was rather, that if in social interactions, there is a suspicion of monetary interest, then the social value of it falls to zero.  If I write posts on a forum to discuss, and to a certain extend, to "give some social weight" to my ideas, then if people would somehow know that I do this for the financial gain it brings me, it would ruin the social value of my contributions.  Confusing social success with "getting money for it" is in my opinion a fundamental mistake.  If people write articles because they want to get paid for it by their readers, then these articles lose their social value ; that is, the writer is then seen as a professional, producing articles to win money, and not because he has something to say.  People will write articles that are studied to please and attract donations, clicks, whatever it is that generates revenue, and not to give out a social posture.    Writing for money already exists: it is called journalism.  The writings by journalists are business ; they are not "social interaction".  From the moment they do it for money, they can't do it "for social interaction".  In the same way a call girl has sex for money, and has nothing to do with amorous feelings.
hero member
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Re FB and the likes, it's not the unrighteous among the rich who are to blame, it's the unrighteous popular in any economic rank.  We need to think in terms of who is popular and who isn't when looking on how to change things.
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I am not a big fan of Facebook.  It seemed to empower a type of herd mentality, where the most "popular" person in a crowd of other Facebook-using-people became the loudest voice.  MySpace seemed to lift people based more on merit, and allowed a person to give a type of text statement and/or their artwork or music and people could just give an opinion not caring about their opinion being voted on by the biggest in the herd.   So, I realize FB is a joy for a lot of people, but one thing that would draw people away from it if there was some kind of monetary reward for using a variation of it.  

Are there any currencies like that now?  

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hero member
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I am not a big fan of Facebook.  It seemed to empower a type of herd mentality, where the most "popular" person in a crowd of other Facebook-using-people became the loudest voice.  MySpace seemed to lift people based more on merit, and allowed a person to give a type of text statement and/or their artwork or music and people could just give an opinion not caring about their opinion being voted on by the biggest in the herd.   So, I realize FB is a joy for a lot of people, but one thing that would draw people away from it if there was some kind of monetary reward for using a variation of it. 

I think that is a fundamental misconception.  It is the error steem and the likes are making.  Social networks are NOT about making money (for the users).  They are about ego-boasting, about having social success, about everything which is the social nature of a human being.  The very concept that it becomes a merchandise kills it.   Even though you can do so, the idea of BUYING friends on facebook is considered ridiculous.  You are not scoring socially if people know that the 7000 friends you have, were bought. 

Wanting to turn social networks into monetary considerations, is like wanting to turn girlfriends into hookers.

This is exactly what the business of facebook is about: being MONETARILY free.  By giving you "for free" (as in free beer, not as in freedom) means of social interaction, where you are in for the social interaction and competition, one can make money of you with all the information you provide and the ads you look at.   But by definition, you cannot monetize that information and that looking at ads, because if you do, you spoil the social side of it.

If you write stuff on facebook, you are supposed to do so because of your social interaction desires.  If people would even suspect you to do so for money, it would lose all of its social empowerment.  So you simply CANNOT monetize this (at least, openly).

No, what would kill facebook would be a peer-to-peer social network with the same free access (as in free beer) and on top of that, your freedom.  But that won't happen, because all formerly motivated people to write free software are now in the business of writing crypto currencies to get rich quickly...

In other words: trying to do something steem-like to "overtake facebook" is not only going to fail, it is going to make facebook stronger, and it is sucking away the efforts that could have gone in putting up a free peer-to-peer alternative.


Steem has the same like system of Facebook.  While I'm not super serious about this, just like throwing out some ideas and talking about it, I can see a system existing more like the old Myspace, which maybe can be for the underdog types that don't like the Egotism of FB. 
I wasn't thinking, also, of doing more things for money, but somehow just interacting with it giving you money, like how much stuff you do, verses people voting on it, giving you more money (Steem).  So, if Grandma wanted to send out to her friends pictures of her grandchildren, no one could vote on if her grandkids or she was cool.   Passive aggression doesn't have to off grannie in my system.

hero member
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I am not a big fan of Facebook.  It seemed to empower a type of herd mentality, where the most "popular" person in a crowd of other Facebook-using-people became the loudest voice.  MySpace seemed to lift people based more on merit, and allowed a person to give a type of text statement and/or their artwork or music and people could just give an opinion not caring about their opinion being voted on by the biggest in the herd.   So, I realize FB is a joy for a lot of people, but one thing that would draw people away from it if there was some kind of monetary reward for using a variation of it. 

I think that is a fundamental misconception.  It is the error steem and the likes are making.  Social networks are NOT about making money (for the users).  They are about ego-boasting, about having social success, about everything which is the social nature of a human being.  The very concept that it becomes a merchandise kills it.   Even though you can do so, the idea of BUYING friends on facebook is considered ridiculous.  You are not scoring socially if people know that the 7000 friends you have, were bought. 

Wanting to turn social networks into monetary considerations, is like wanting to turn girlfriends into hookers.

This is exactly what the business of facebook is about: being MONETARILY free.  By giving you "for free" (as in free beer, not as in freedom) means of social interaction, where you are in for the social interaction and competition, one can make money of you with all the information you provide and the ads you look at.   But by definition, you cannot monetize that information and that looking at ads, because if you do, you spoil the social side of it.

If you write stuff on facebook, you are supposed to do so because of your social interaction desires.  If people would even suspect you to do so for money, it would lose all of its social empowerment.  So you simply CANNOT monetize this (at least, openly).

No, what would kill facebook would be a peer-to-peer social network with the same free access (as in free beer) and on top of that, your freedom.  But that won't happen, because all formerly motivated people to write free software are now in the business of writing crypto currencies to get rich quickly...

In other words: trying to do something steem-like to "overtake facebook" is not only going to fail, it is going to make facebook stronger, and it is sucking away the efforts that could have gone in putting up a free peer-to-peer alternative.
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Coins/platforms (or whatever), which tries to compete with Facebook, Twitter or YouTube are doomed. If any of these feel threatened, they would just buy the idea. Why don't you people finally realize that the biggest problem of cryptocurrencies is the lack of adoption? You don't compete with Facebook and such, you use them in order to achieve your goal (making your coin/token/platform/whatever viral).

How is there going to adoption when most of the coins turns out to be scam? It is eventually going to have an impact on Bitcoins too. People are scamming people to accumulate more Bitcoins.
legendary
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Coins/platforms (or whatever), which tries to compete with Facebook, Twitter or YouTube are doomed. If any of these feel threatened, they would just buy the idea. Why don't you people finally realize that the biggest problem of cryptocurrencies is the lack of adoption? You don't compete with Facebook and such, you use them in order to achieve your goal (making your coin/token/platform/whatever viral).
legendary
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I am not a big fan of Facebook.  It seemed to empower a type of herd mentality, where the most "popular" person in a crowd of other Facebook-using-people became the loudest voice.  MySpace seemed to lift people based more on merit, and allowed a person to give a type of text statement and/or their artwork or music and people could just give an opinion not caring about their opinion being voted on by the biggest in the herd.   So, I realize FB is a joy for a lot of people, but one thing that would draw people away from it if there was some kind of monetary reward for using a variation of it. 

Are there any currencies like that now? 
I think people use Facebook for other reason and that is to socialize.You can not add earn money feature to everything and expect it to be hit.Getting recognition and socialization is also basic human needs
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Steemit have tried to do similar but i think it have failed a little and it is not quite similar to facebook. We can say steemit as a step to show that how monetory incentive can attract peoples from non paying blogging platform to paying one however security as well as the main concept behind defining reward amount and method of payout will be the bigger issue that can impact the popularity of such platform.
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I am not a big fan of Facebook.  It seemed to empower a type of herd mentality, where the most "popular" person in a crowd of other Facebook-using-people became the loudest voice.  MySpace seemed to lift people based more on merit, and allowed a person to give a type of text statement and/or their artwork or music and people could just give an opinion not caring about their opinion being voted on by the biggest in the herd.   So, I realize FB is a joy for a lot of people, but one thing that would draw people away from it if there was some kind of monetary reward for using a variation of it.  

Are there any currencies like that now?  

Yes, your wish has been granted!

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legendary
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I am not a big fan of Facebook.  It seemed to empower a type of herd mentality, where the most "popular" person in a crowd of other Facebook-using-people became the loudest voice.  MySpace seemed to lift people based more on merit, and allowed a person to give a type of text statement and/or their artwork or music and people could just give an opinion not caring about their opinion being voted on by the biggest in the herd.   So, I realize FB is a joy for a lot of people, but one thing that would draw people away from it if there was some kind of monetary reward for using a variation of it. 

Are there any currencies like that now? 

i doubt if facebook would ever share their profits to their users,many sites like facebook has come out giving monetary rewards to all their users but they eventually fold up because they lack the features of a social sites,they neglect giving their users features and functionalites and only concentrated on giving rewards..
legendary
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Why have i been the only one to SEE past the Block-Chain concept ?
i have long said where is the innovation ?
Who is it that is working on an innovation on the Block-Chain concept ?

No one.

Don't *pretend* to be a visionary pushing innovation modding Satoshi's GPL'd Github work for profit.
Open Source ? Github ? Well, let's see how much money we can make of it  Cheesy

Meanwhile Github (The biggest site in Crypto) complies with US government requests
as does all the exchanges as does many coins ..AML / KYC from end to end
..on your decentralized currencies  Cheesy

Facebook ?
I see the dislike of it .. i feel the same way.
Because it had evolved into a 'meme".. like knocking on a door or using Cell phones.
..meme as per definition.
Something that has gotten popular and swept the world etc.
Which can be irritating of course.

So it goes beyond simply being a web site.. it's a phenomena.
It has grown a life of it's own like the Teddy Ruxpin or Furby or Cabbage Patch Kid or Pet Rock or Hoola Hoop or Tickle Me Elmo or... Altcoin Profit Whoring.
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The "blockchain" could be created by one's use of the social networking site, the more one puts into it, the more one would be mining it.  It would all be based on usuge, no premining by anyone.  It would have some way of compiling blocks/coins based on variables that were assigned based on the functions that were called when using the site.  lol....I have never studied a coin's white paper yet but just seems feasible, at least its fun to think about empowering people economically who need it. 

well, you could go a couple side tokens deep for that i would imagine.  An outer token that is not available at the public level, 100% pre-mined.  Then under that token another token that is on the site itself.  that way, rather than doing all the scripting on bitcoin itself, you work within your own tokens and those tokens, since you made them would be built more suited to the direction that you want them to go.  something more like NXT where the api backbone is built to suit.
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The "blockchain" could be created by one's use of the social networking site, the more one puts into it, the more one would be mining it.  It would all be based on usuge, no premining by anyone.  It would have some way of compiling blocks/coins based on variables that were assigned based on the functions that were called when using the site.  lol....I have never studied a coin's white paper yet but just seems feasible, at least its fun to think about empowering people economically who need it. 
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I am talking to stubborn people who refuse to admit there is a problem because it's always some other coin.
You all take turns saying 96% of coins are a scam.. except the one i am bag holding shilling for of course.
Then the next guy posts the same thing just a different coin or coin(s)

RIGHT ON! Agree 100%, WTF is going on?!

We all need to start ditching our altcoins and loadup on PACCOIN!.  PACCOIN is literally sleeping at the VERY bottom of CoinMarketCap, no downside only UPSIDE!!!.  PACCOIN will dominate with it's unique PAC-MAN hashing algorithm that is capable of chomping other altcoins in its path!

GET ON THE PACCOIN TRAIN OR GET OFF THE TRACKS, CUZ THIS TRAIN AIN'T GOT NO COW-CATCHER!
legendary
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How did you say that facebook is like empower seemz you can't earn there by inviting people , you can earn there just advsrtising ads etc.. It seemed that facebook only using those who already had a name to make there selves more famous and also to earn money from facebook , Facebook is full of entertainment where you can meet other friend by using this if facebook partner bitcoin and to earn bitcoin while playing, watching videos etc maybe facebook will know more about bitcoins and crypto related

I don't know if the average people with accounts on FB can earn any money by posting ads.  Is that true?  For Google it is.
That's right, but not through by post ads. just like the people is wanna for getting a lot of like and share in their post and the account is sold by the companies and after the account is sold the companies is editing the post be their advertising post, that's just like a manipulating trick.
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Using Bitcoin to forward a personal agenda is a personal thing.  If you have something against Facebook, then deal with that and don't try to use a currency to work out your internal issues.  I am neither a fan of or a person against facebook, the reason for that stance is because it is a website and I have no reason to attribute a personal stance against a website, whether it is strong in the social world or not.  If you have some issue with their methods, then do one yourself.  You can even throw money at people for being there, whether it is BTC or FIAT.  adzbuzz is in the process of building itself up, i am sure they would love a healthy donation to their business.  I would love to see that TX posted here by you, because if Facebook is the evil threat that you make it out to be, then I am sure that you will be personally backing the attack. 

You can even start your own, very easy.  there are web hosting sites with auto install sites like Dolphine and elgg.  Within 15 minutes you can be their competitor and give away all your BTC to promote and push the cause forward.  i look forward to you personally posting the financial assets that you have put toward this cause of yours.

You are reading into things that aren't there.  I just don't find FB that relevant to a lot of creative innovative people, and these people are not going to have much of an audience if everyone is at FB.   I don't use cryptocurrency to do illegal things, and I would rather have the government govern than anarchists.   I was thinking more like trading stamps from the grocery story as altcoin, not previous models.  Apples and Oranges.
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Using Bitcoin to forward a personal agenda is a personal thing.  If you have something against Facebook, then deal with that and don't try to use a currency to work out your internal issues.  I am neither a fan of or a person against facebook, the reason for that stance is because it is a website and I have no reason to attribute a personal stance against a website, whether it is strong in the social world or not.  If you have some issue with their methods, then do one yourself.  You can even throw money at people for being there, whether it is BTC or FIAT.  adzbuzz is in the process of building itself up, i am sure they would love a healthy donation to their business.  I would love to see that TX posted here by you, because if Facebook is the evil threat that you make it out to be, then I am sure that you will be personally backing the attack. 

You can even start your own, very easy.  there are web hosting sites with auto install sites like Dolphine and elgg.  Within 15 minutes you can be their competitor and give away all your BTC to promote and push the cause forward.  i look forward to you personally posting the financial assets that you have put toward this cause of yours.
legendary
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@The Pharmicist
Ya i recall people making money by watching advertisements back around the year 2001.
I tried it briefly LOL

@OP
I doubt it because of Facebook is designed to be platform for sharing personal info etc.
I don't see how a crypto platform can begin to rival Facebook.

I could see maybe Facebook having it's own currency but it still leaves all of Facebook and it's features.
So you would have to duplicate the ability / features of FB on a coin platform not an easy task.
Facebook is ALREADY created..

i don't see how an implementation attempt could dethrone Facebook's dominance.

And you mentioned this because of the herd mentality ?
WOW LOL

I just broke 10,000 comments here guys and every fucking damn one of them was about the Crypto Herd Mentality.
It's although you talk while not seeing the mentality in question is 100% worse in crypto than it is on FB.
All Crypto is ..is a hive of greedy young people clutching chump change hoping to make a REAL buck $$$ of off some shitcoin being flogged by other brats making them manipulated by random older sleazy whales etc.

It boils down to cocky brats trying to cash in on the crypto coin concept..
trying to outwit the the whales who have enough money to control the game board and cheat etc.
No matter the odds you all press on because you are desperate.. to make money.
This has nothing at all to do with supporting the adoption of a new world wide digital currency.
It's naive foolish investard profiteering by inept kidiots and their predators.

Problem is when you have lost your objectivity and have your head so far shoved up your ass you can't see this Altcoin stuff in the proper perspective / context which leads to the users being made highly vulnerable.
Crypto-Hood winked  Cheesy

I have mentioned before here lots Optimism bias - Wikipedia
You all collectively being the "herd" the majority controlling the momentum / trends suffer from that x 1,000
Such as some Monero bag-holder or Ethereum bag-holder clinging to the hope that the Earth will stop spinning in order to start using their shitcoin scheme coin.

There is optimism when it's appropriate and then there is being a naive / ignorant little fool.
You all should be embracing Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt but you don't because this threatens your "bags".
You can't look at things honestly.. this gets in the way of your profits (you seem to think)

Bottom line.. you're doin' it wrong.

I am talking to stubborn people who refuse to admit there is a problem because it's always some other coin.
You all take turns saying 96% of coins are a scam.. except the one i am bag holding shilling for of course.
Then the next guy posts the same thing just a different coin or coin(s)

And that all my shitcoin aficionado's takes a steaming rotten shit all over crypto adoption.
The world watching see all the bloody moronic shit going on and is not here because of it.
50 guys here all taking while covering their ears makes no difference to the 7+ billion people around the world.

Earth Gove 0 Crypto-Fucks !

People are not going to register at Bitcointalk to say they seen this Altcoin stuff and thought it was scammy so they are leaving forever.
They are just going to carry on living life as though they can manage to survive with out Bitcoin etc (YES it is possible)
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