Topic: Maybe future trade is gambling - page 4. (Read 1097 times)

You don't say what you do not know, trading and gambling are not the same thing unless you want to gamble with your own trading or you are just inexperienced, that's it. You just don't say that trading is gambling, just like saying business is gambling, it only depends on whether or not you want to gamble with your own business as there will always be professionals in the field of that business who know what to do and manage their businesses well without unnecessary taking chances (gamble).

And if you must know, the aspect of the financial market and asset trading that is gambling-related is Options trading, and in some places, they call it Binary Options. Yes, in that, you can choose between your Call and Put options and you will gamble the direction chosen against a specific time. That is specifically gambling, because if you predict wrongly, you lose and all of your money is won by the dealer, or should I call it the House this time?

But in trading, as the case may be, you can just lose all your money at once and immediately at a specific time on a single trade and you have the option to opt out of the market if you sense danger unlike how it is happening of gambling platforms, once you place a bet, you have committed the money and has agreed to win or lose.

Everything that lies in the future is certainly gambling. Most particularly for futures trading where trading made in the future most likely become unpredictable, which means you don’t hold fixed outcome when you trade on it. Also, engaging in futures trading for non-pros or non-professionals in trading will highly end up like gambling. For safer option, avoid futures trading when you think you are not that capable and skillful enough.

Future trade and gambling are both risky but they are different, future trading is more risky than regular trading. Maybe you're just confused because they're really the same, especially with bigger leverage, the bigger the leverage, the bigger the risk.

yes, to get a edge, the trader need to learn many things about the specific financial instrument.
Like in stocks, the trader needs to analyze overall market trends, company's performance, financial indicators, and relevant news to make right decisions.
Also, in crypto and commodities or any other financial instrument, a thorough understanding of market dynamics, technological developments, and global economic factors is essential for profitable trading.
So it should not be considered as gambling, but if the trader is just speculating by seeing the price movements on charts and doing nothing and taking trades then he is gambling.

Does it mean that there is no difference in risky crypto investment with high returns can be considered gambling?
Then investing in low-risk gold is not gambling?

I would not consider futures trading as gambling especially if you say the luck factor of price prediction, still it is not a tool in analyzing prices they need several things to analyze the market or a coin that is being traded then the chances of profit will be greater.

If for example beginners do futures trading, then they do not understand then they can consider this future as gambling.

I don’t agree with you mate completely. Where there is high risk and high return, it can be considered as gambling. In futures, similar concept is used where you need to trade and make profit in each and everyday. Yes knowledge is also important, but market and luck also plays an important factor also. You need to be lucky to do the correct market predictions and make profits from it. So yes in short futures can be considered as gambling only.

At what particular age? most of the children who engage early in bitcoin without their own money is quite risky because once they earn a good amount of profit sure they will think that the crypto is a haven to create more money and become an instant millionaire, even me I didn't have those number of money and imagine makes use those to have an investment and get all burn those assets, I don't sure but seems like he made into a one pot those investments and get liquidated due to market volatility. Better if he makes and build his money first so the people around him will not be burdened again with their mistakes. Futures trading is not a gambling if you know already the background and how to execute properly the trend of the market, still there's a risk but you are not blank to the outcome of the market.

the real gambling is option trading. there is just guessing the price goes down or the price goes up. and if the guess is wrong all the funds that are paired, aka at stake, are exhausted, aka there is no remainder at all. well that's really called gambling. while in futures it's not like that there is SL there is TP and if the wrong direction does not immediately run out of funds owned.
example binary option, iq option and more. and option trading license use gambling license

I like your answer, gambling have nothing to do with trading or rather future trading but basically all are risky. However, future trading is very risky because it might get to the date of agreement and you found out that the price of the commodity you wish to buy have increased therefore you may still need to pay extra amount regardless of the agreement you both had earlier so as days goes by that's how the price of goods and commodity increases so reaching and agreement on buying a commodity at a current price in the future may not really be ascertained.

Futures trading or any trading which can people do online is gambling for those who doesn't understand how to trade and just speculate and trade without analysing anything and seeing the charts. And after losing the trade we know what happens they tend to take more risk to regain that lost amount same as gambling. But if the person learned about trading and know to stop when he is wrong. And if he is wrong most of the time then he should learn more about that. If someone knew about this and what your brother is doing then they should had stopped him.

Futures trading a gamble? No I really don't think so, I feel that it's a craft that is more risky, which you must master before venturing into it. futures trading is more rewarding to those that knows the craft while gambling is mainly base on luck, so they aren't the same.

Many will percept the trading as a gambling because of its definition "Gambling is a risky action wanting for a desired result" both of these requires money to do so but not necessarily mean that both are in the same category, that's why we have a term for it. Although this is in, the nature of money similar, we can argue that these things required different skills to have and not just with luck.  

Yes it is. Leverage is not designed only for the traders to make more profitable, it gives more risky positions on both end. Traders should know how to leverage their trade especially when they are more than 50% see how the market will behave for a couple or days, weeks or months getting multipliers and turning to higher profits. Can we call that a gamble? given the risky side of it? No, simply because they aren't basing it on luck.

For professional traders, futures trading is a big opportunity to gain instant wealth but for beginners, it requires specific knowledge and skills first, hence beginners when they tend to do futures trade, they mostly end up gambling knowing they have less or no experiences in futures trading.

Trading with high leverage will add more risks but the rewards are also worth the trades that’s why a lot of traders suicide to do futures trading but still end up losing because they lack the skills and experiences to succeed.

I agree that trading is a complex fighting between us and the market, fighting inside ourselves as well.

It's hard to beat the market and very few traders can beat the market. I don't think I belong to those genius traders so I decided to be a Bitcoin investor, hodler. The market grows, Bitcoin grows in price, I get benefit from the trend and get profit by holding.

Trading with Sport is risky but it is less risky than trading with leverages, futures. Trading with Futures, Leverages is more likely gambling and risk to lose is bigger a lot.

Trading is somewhat like a competition between ourselves and the market. If we can't trade good and the level of our trading knowledge is low, no way we can beat the market, we only just fail. Even though we have a lot of trading experience, we can't still guarantee that we never lose nor do we think that it all ends with a profit. If we have this kind of situation (whether it is spot or futures trading) we're not just gambling but we are doing this for loss. And I can't blame someone who would say that it was gambling and now relying on luck because that is the only thing he can do unless he enhances his trading knowledge and market approach.

Futures trading may only turn gambling if you actually trade without knowledge and experience. That way, regardless if it's spot or futures, everything will definitely end up with gambling. And once you trade with high leverage, without being good experiences in futures trading, you will only end up trading like gambling.

Hence, I don't suggest for everyone here who is starting to trade to engage in futures trading as it's highly risky and has a high danger of losing if you trade without sufficient skills and strategies.

That is what those people do not get, at least when it comes to gambling if that day was your lucky day you can score a big win, but when it comes to futures trading what matters the most is your skill level, and someone that does not know much about the markets will get trashed by the other expert traders in a relatively short amount of time, so regardless of what those people have read on social media, futures trading is a form of trading in which they should not engage.

Well said but when people are risking something in expectation of a higher reward with not the result not in their control, it's a gamble.
In simple trading or investment, you can hold the coin that has lost its value in anticipation of it getting its ath on the next  bull run. But in future, there's no hope if things turned out a bit different than you predicted. Another similarity between futures trading and gambling is you lose all when things go wrong. There are variations on both where you get something back but it's minute.

Trading and gambling are two different things. In gambling you depend on your luck. It's no chance of you winning or losing, which you don't know. But if you invest in trading you may get a good profit. But futures trade is a game of leverage. If you start trading with excess leverage without doing a good analysis and understanding about leverage, then you will surely lose. The calculation of futures trade is that the more leverage, the more risk.

It's hard to give a general answer here, but futures trading is definitely not gambling. Gambling is a complete game of chance where you play against the house, that has an advantage over you through the house edge. With futures trading you have a contract to buy a particular asset at a later stage in time, where you make a profit if the spot price is higher than your future reference price, or a loss if the price is lower. The higher volatility of futures comes from the leverage involved, you only put down the money for the margin account that is much lower than the spot price of the coin. Assuming that your friend lost so much money in a very short amount of time, he must have gambled way above his means. Without proper risk management, futures trading can lead to large losses. A buy and hold strategy is not really advisable for futures, because prices can change quickly. We should react with the price change and sit through large swings. Getting wiped out with futures and being forced to liquidate is devastating and should be avoided at all cost.