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June 05, 2017, 06:23:43 PM
#29
I was sent the 0.2 Bitcoin first, without escrow. What kind of scammer would send the PayPal, when they have already received the BTC? I returned 0.5 BTC to a user after a trade failed to go through as well, and these amounts are among the smaller amounts I've been trusted with.

One that is wanting to scam more via the same methods or do a chargeback at a later date which you have plenty of time to initiate. You also only sent it after he opened a scam accusation against you. There's enough red flags here for me to warrant the negative feedback but I'll happily remove it if you can provide reasonable proof that this is your account, but it looks to me like it very likely isn't.

No, I did not send it because he opened a scam accusation. I was PM'ing him before that saying I was on my way home, but he opened one anyways. If you noticed, I didn't send it instantly after he opened the accusation either. Please do not be like the OP here and jump to crazy conclusions like these.

I am not a PayPal scammer, if I am, prove it? My account is not hacked, if it is, prove it? There are absolutely no red flags. You are jumping a long way into these conclusions. I can call a trusted exchanger such as "sardasa" a PayPal scammer because he is able to chargeback at a later date. I can call a random member "hacked" and leave him a negative trust until he signs a message. But is that what anyone in their right mind does? Absolutely not. It's completely unfair to call me any names without a single piece of evidence. I am honestly shocked to see a member like myself have orange trust, it really is shocking that someone so respectable would do such a thing.


Sign that freaking message or another red tag from me.



Your red tag means nothing, you come on here every day to give red tags that do nothing. Wonder why you're trying to police the forum when you don't get paid, or even give insightful comments.
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June 05, 2017, 06:16:04 PM
#28
I was sent the 0.2 Bitcoin first, without escrow. What kind of scammer would send the PayPal, when they have already received the BTC? I returned 0.5 BTC to a user after a trade failed to go through as well, and these amounts are among the smaller amounts I've been trusted with.

One that is wanting to scam more via the same methods or do a chargeback at a later date which you have plenty of time to initiate. You also only sent it after he opened a scam accusation against you. There's enough red flags here for me to warrant the negative feedback but I'll happily remove it if you can provide reasonable proof that this is your account, but it looks to me like it very likely isn't.

No, I did not send it because he opened a scam accusation. I was PM'ing him before that saying I was on my way home, but he opened one anyways. If you noticed, I didn't send it instantly after he opened the accusation either. Please do not be like the OP here and jump to crazy conclusions like these.

I am not a PayPal scammer, if I am, prove it? My account is not hacked, if it is, prove it? There are absolutely no red flags. You are jumping a long way into these conclusions. I can call a trusted exchanger such as "sardasa" a PayPal scammer because he is able to chargeback at a later date. I can call a random member "hacked" and leave him a negative trust until he signs a message. But is that what anyone in their right mind does? Absolutely not. It's completely unfair to call me any names without a single piece of evidence. I am honestly shocked to see a member like myself have orange trust, it really is shocking that someone so respectable would do such a thing.


Sign that freaking message or another red tag from me.

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June 05, 2017, 04:55:23 PM
#27
I am almost 100% positive that this account is compromised. Unless proven otherwise, I will not be removing my rating (regardless of the validity of this accusation). Do not PM me again unless you have conclusive proof of being the same user as the one in 2014.

This is a complete joke.

I will be opening a thread shortly. How can you be almost 100% positive, with absolutely zero evidence?  Huh Lauda, corrupting the user-base like a poison, user by user.

There's quite enough evidence against you to arouse suspicion. The fact that you haven't posted since 2015 and then come back trying to do trades straight away and can't prove the account is yours is good enough for the feedback as a warning. If you can prove otherwise then people will remove the feedback but it really doesn't look good for you.

You have an address posted here:



Hope this helps!  If this works for you, I would gladly accept a belated Christmas present from you.  Grin 1vYG6NVr9nGqqyRL78jQXKLHqPcVX5NKS



Can you sign a message from it?

That address is not a part of my wallet it must have been a single-off deposit address for a website
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June 05, 2017, 03:39:35 PM
#26
I am almost 100% positive that this account is compromised. Unless proven otherwise, I will not be removing my rating (regardless of the validity of this accusation). Do not PM me again unless you have conclusive proof of being the same user as the one in 2014.

This is a complete joke.

I will be opening a thread shortly. How can you be almost 100% positive, with absolutely zero evidence?  Huh Lauda, corrupting the user-base like a poison, user by user.

There's quite enough evidence against you to arouse suspicion. The fact that you haven't posted since 2015 and then come back trying to do trades straight away and can't prove the account is yours is good enough for the feedback as a warning. If you can prove otherwise then people will remove the feedback but it really doesn't look good for you.

You have an address posted here:



Hope this helps!  If this works for you, I would gladly accept a belated Christmas present from you.  Grin 1vYG6NVr9nGqqyRL78jQXKLHqPcVX5NKS



Can you sign a message from it?
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June 05, 2017, 01:48:14 PM
#25
This is a complete joke.

I will be opening a thread shortly. How can you be almost 100% positive, with absolutely zero evidence?  Huh Lauda, corrupting the user-base like a poison, user by user.
You are playing on the presumption of innocence, but this isn't a court of law. In cases like these, the burden of proof is on the accused and not the accuser (although the opposing situation is also not uncommon). You can open countless threads, but that won't help you [1]. Without the proof that you're the original owner of this account, you are only going to dig your own hole.

[1] - There are over a dozen threads about me, and zero in which the accusers have made a valid case. Good luck. Roll Eyes
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June 05, 2017, 01:43:41 PM
#24
I am almost 100% positive that this account is compromised. Unless proven otherwise, I will not be removing my rating (regardless of the validity of this accusation). Do not PM me again unless you have conclusive proof of being the same user as the one in 2014.

This is a complete joke.

I will be opening a thread shortly. How can you be almost 100% positive, with absolutely zero evidence?  Huh Lauda, corrupting the user-base like a poison, user by user.
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June 05, 2017, 01:40:13 PM
#23
I am almost 100% positive that this account is compromised. Unless proven otherwise, I will not be removing my rating (regardless of the validity of this accusation). Do not PM me again unless you have conclusive proof of being the same user as the one in 2014.
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June 05, 2017, 01:37:20 PM
#22
I was sent the 0.2 Bitcoin first, without escrow. What kind of scammer would send the PayPal, when they have already received the BTC? I returned 0.5 BTC to a user after a trade failed to go through as well, and these amounts are among the smaller amounts I've been trusted with.

One that is wanting to scam more via the same methods or do a chargeback at a later date which you have plenty of time to initiate. You also only sent it after he opened a scam accusation against you. There's enough red flags here for me to warrant the negative feedback but I'll happily remove it if you can provide reasonable proof that this is your account, but it looks to me like it very likely isn't.

No, I did not send it because he opened a scam accusation. I was PM'ing him before that saying I was on my way home, but he opened one anyways. If you noticed, I didn't send it instantly after he opened the accusation either. Please do not be like the OP here and jump to crazy conclusions like these.

I am not a PayPal scammer, if I am, prove it? My account is not hacked, if it is, prove it? There are absolutely no red flags. You are jumping a long way into these conclusions. I can call a trusted exchanger such as "sardasa" a PayPal scammer because he is able to chargeback at a later date. I can call a random member "hacked" and leave him a negative trust until he signs a message. But is that what anyone in their right mind does? Absolutely not. It's completely unfair to call me any names without a single piece of evidence. I am honestly shocked to see a member like myself have orange trust, it really is shocking that someone so respectable would do such a thing.
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June 05, 2017, 01:25:42 PM
#21
I was sent the 0.2 Bitcoin first, without escrow. What kind of scammer would send the PayPal, when they have already received the BTC? I returned 0.5 BTC to a user after a trade failed to go through as well, and these amounts are among the smaller amounts I've been trusted with.

One that is wanting to scam more via the same methods or do a chargeback at a later date which you have plenty of time to initiate. You also only sent it after he opened a scam accusation against you. There's enough red flags here for me to warrant the negative feedback but I'll happily remove it if you can provide reasonable proof that this is your account, but it looks to me like it very likely isn't.
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June 05, 2017, 01:25:03 PM
#20
Post proof or this story is total bullshit.  Got it?  You can come in here slinging mud without facts.  I don't believe you and no one else should either without proof.

hilariousandco has left me negative trust over this, which is surprising. I would not have thought such a member would fall for this thread. A scam accusation does not make anyone a scammer, it is simply an accusation. And this is the dumbest accusation I've ever seen, which makes me wonder how someone could leave a negative trust over this. I did not steal anything, I am always an honest trader.

There's a strong possibility that your account is hacked or looks to be that way. You have no posts from November 04, 2015 until 2017. You could still very likely scam via Paypal as well. Can you provide any reasonable proof that this account belongs to you? Can you sign a message from an address associated with it?



This is no reason to leave a negative trust, I estimate around ~50% of active users cannot sign a message. This account has always been completely under my control. It's *possible* that I can chargeback the PayPal, that my account is hacked, or that I created Bitcoin. But a possibility, especially not a high possibility at all, is not any fair reason from my view.

I was sent the 0.2 Bitcoin first, without escrow. What kind of scammer would send the PayPal, when they have already received the BTC? I returned 0.5 BTC to a user after a trade failed to go through as well, and these amounts are among the smaller amounts I've been trusted with. If any action should be done, the poster of this thread should receive a tag for making such an unstrustworthy claim, which actually turned out to ruin my name....  Undecided
Evading the question of whether you can sign a message doesn't help you, but I still say OP needs to post solid proof.   I agree with hilarious that it does seem suspicious and you could have hacked that account.   And you could be doing deals to lead up to a bigger scam.  So sign that message.
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June 05, 2017, 01:17:14 PM
#19
Post proof or this story is total bullshit.  Got it?  You can come in here slinging mud without facts.  I don't believe you and no one else should either without proof.

hilariousandco has left me negative trust over this, which is surprising. I would not have thought such a member would fall for this thread. A scam accusation does not make anyone a scammer, it is simply an accusation. And this is the dumbest accusation I've ever seen, which makes me wonder how someone could leave a negative trust over this. I did not steal anything, I am always an honest trader.

There's a strong possibility that your account is hacked or looks to be that way. You have no posts from November 04, 2015 until 2017. You could still very likely scam via Paypal as well. Can you provide any reasonable proof that this account belongs to you? Can you sign a message from an address associated with it?



This is no reason to leave a negative trust, I estimate around ~50% of active users cannot sign a message. This account has always been completely under my control. It's *possible* that I can chargeback the PayPal, that my account is hacked, or that I created Bitcoin. But a possibility, especially not a high possibility at all, is not any fair reason from my view.

I was sent the 0.2 Bitcoin first, without escrow. What kind of scammer would send the PayPal, when they have already received the BTC? I returned 0.5 BTC to a user after a trade failed to go through as well, and these amounts are among the smaller amounts I've been trusted with. If any action should be done, the poster of this thread should receive a tag for making such an unstrustworthy claim, which actually turned out to ruin my name....  Undecided
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June 05, 2017, 01:06:22 PM
#18
Post proof or this story is total bullshit.  Got it?  You can come in here slinging mud without facts.  I don't believe you and no one else should either without proof.

hilariousandco has left me negative trust over this, which is surprising. I would not have thought such a member would fall for this thread. A scam accusation does not make anyone a scammer, it is simply an accusation. And this is the dumbest accusation I've ever seen, which makes me wonder how someone could leave a negative trust over this. I did not steal anything, I am always an honest trader.

There's a strong possibility that your account is hacked or looks to be that way. You have no posts from November 04, 2015 until 2017. You could still very likely scam via Paypal as well. Can you provide any reasonable proof that this account belongs to you? Can you sign a message from an address associated with it?

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June 05, 2017, 12:23:39 PM
#17
Post proof or this story is total bullshit.  Got it?  You can come in here slinging mud without facts.  I don't believe you and no one else should either without proof.

hilariousandco has left me negative trust over this, which is surprising. I would not have thought such a member would fall for this thread. A scam accusation does not make anyone a scammer, it is simply an accusation. And this is the dumbest accusation I've ever seen, which makes me wonder how someone could leave a negative trust over this. I did not steal anything, I am always an honest trader.
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June 05, 2017, 12:15:29 PM
#16
Post proof or this story is total bullshit.  Got it?  You can come in here slinging mud without facts.  I don't believe you and no one else should either without proof.
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June 05, 2017, 12:02:38 PM
#15
https://gyazo.com/e32bee3de38415263b98ecc61e785b3d

Added me, and never sent me a single bit of information that could be used to steal his money. He never sent me a wallet file, any backups, or anything. This is ridiculous. If anyone believes this guy, I will honestly be in awe of stupidity. Why would I scam, when I was just trusted with 0.2 BTC in an exchange last night, and 0.5 BTC yesterday. Of course I paid up. You really think I stole your 0.1? This has got to be the worst assumption I've ever seen.
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June 05, 2017, 11:57:00 AM
#14
Wait, what? You never sent me a single bit of info. Why are you blaming this on me?

This is a joke.
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June 05, 2017, 10:40:48 AM
#13
and All i was trying to do is get some help... make $9 an hour doign clerical work as this is to me is no bubble.. the thing .1 is around 500 dollars now.. that's not chump change to me..i even remembered the pw right after and our pm log will confirm..anyways not to panhandle but any amount ($00.1 will be appreciated) I have a lot of bills and dont live on a lot
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June 05, 2017, 10:38:54 AM
#12
thanks for the advice? moderators can i get some help?

I will say this ETC is the only wave of the future. It's systemic originality and robust active of the market (especially in the future through more well-run accurate exchanges) will beat out fiat currency any day. As far as I understand it (i know i'm a nub) crypocurrency is unique and the faith and value of such a product will never go away since it helps make function certain parts of the internet as opposed to a fiat or even gold/precious metal backed currency
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June 05, 2017, 10:20:58 AM
#11
so recently i've stated been trying to figure out my PW on here... well this person named mchu168 told me to get on skype and wanted to know all my info including mesending my .wallet file, next thing I know all my funds are gone...

this has to be made up - no one could be into BTC and really be that stupid

I would suggest the OP to make a thread in scam accusations or move this one to that section and post the accusation in proper format as Sir. Lauda has explained. It will be a warning for all the other newbies as well as members who may get scammed by that person in the future.
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June 05, 2017, 10:13:18 AM
#10
so recently i've stated been trying to figure out my PW on here... well this person named mchu168 told me to get on skype and wanted to know all my info including mesending my .wallet file, next thing I know all my funds are gone...

this has to be made up - no one could be into BTC and really be that stupid
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