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My BIN database shows:
I think the photo is just a mockup, not a real number. I did the same thing. lol Quote
Card Brand: MASTERCARD
Issuing Bank: HSBC BANK MALAYSIA BERHAD
Card Type (Credit/Debit):
Card Level:
ISO Country Name: MALAYSIA
ISO Country A2 Code: MY
ISO Country A3 Code: MYS
ISO Country Number: 458
Bank Website: http://HTTP://WWW.HSBC.COM.MY/
Bank Phone: 1300 88 0181
Issuing Bank: HSBC BANK MALAYSIA BERHAD
Card Type (Credit/Debit):
Card Level:
ISO Country Name: MALAYSIA
ISO Country A2 Code: MY
ISO Country A3 Code: MYS
ISO Country Number: 458
Bank Website: http://HTTP://WWW.HSBC.COM.MY/
Bank Phone: 1300 88 0181
My BIN database shows:
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Card Brand: MASTERCARD
Issuing Bank: HSBC BANK MALAYSIA BERHAD
Card Type (Credit/Debit):
Card Level:
ISO Country Name: MALAYSIA
ISO Country A2 Code: MY
ISO Country A3 Code: MYS
ISO Country Number: 458
Bank Website: http://HTTP://WWW.HSBC.COM.MY/
Bank Phone: 1300 88 0181
Issuing Bank: HSBC BANK MALAYSIA BERHAD
Card Type (Credit/Debit):
Card Level:
ISO Country Name: MALAYSIA
ISO Country A2 Code: MY
ISO Country A3 Code: MYS
ISO Country Number: 458
Bank Website: http://HTTP://WWW.HSBC.COM.MY/
Bank Phone: 1300 88 0181
Sweet!
Mistrust, but verify.
So when BFL releases some preliminary product renders and folks cry "fraud" you jump on their bandwagon and assert that when the crowd shouts "fraud" the burden of proof is on the manufacturer: "Prove to us you're NOT a fraud!"
Then when BitInstant releases a preliminary product pic and folks cry "fraud" your immediate response is "nono, that's not ok you guys, those making the claims of fraud bear the burden of proof, anything else would be fallacious!"
he's got you dead to rights there mucus
I would imagine the major difference is that bitinstant isn't run by a convicted fraudster and hasn't collected millions of dollars in pre-orders...
And now that we've begun repeating ourselves, I remember what futility it is to feed the trolls and return you to your regularly scheduled BitInstant MasterCard thread.
Sorry for the derailment, moving on with life.
You bite your fingernails, can't light a photo, and have a print out of a non working credit card. What's the announcement? 
LOL this ^
More vaporware from the BitInstant boys ... that is clearly a printout of a design, not a real card.
That's a bold claim, do you have any incises to give that credability?
In the mean time I call bullshit. It's real unless you can point out what's wrong with it.
I point gnomes and fairies are real until you can disprove me, you've seen the pictures online right .... flawless logic there
So do you accuse bitinstant of fabricating the photo? Then I suggest you get at it since the burnden of proof lies on you.
Mind you I am not claiming that this picture is absolute proof of the existence of the card but that it suggests it is valid more than your simple claim that it is not. You are engaging in the typical prove me wrong fallacious reasoning. Nobody will take you serious until you back up your accusations with something.
Waitwaitwait...
So when BFL releases some preliminary product renders and folks cry "fraud" you jump on their bandwagon and assert that when the crowd shouts "fraud" the burden of proof is on the manufacturer: "Prove to us you're NOT a fraud!"
Then when BitInstant releases a preliminary product pic and folks cry "fraud" your immediate response is "nono, that's not ok you guys, those making the claims of fraud bear the burden of proof, anything else would be fallacious!"
Inconsistent reasoning is inconsistent.
But seriously...
OMGZ BITINSTANT CARD!
Inconsistent reasoning is inconsistent.
No it's not the difference is no history of fraud and a sound business model.
I'm not saying that I am certain it will happen or this is really a sample card of the real thing. (the picture was posted without comment) What I can confidently say is that bitinstant is more transparent than BFL in their proceedings and I consider them more trustworthy.
It could turn out to be publicity stunt of some sort, at the worst. But until is see some indication that it is I maintain that it is a genuine product.
Reasoning: No preorder requirement no special commitment required no direct profit to gain from the company if it doesn't happen. Even if the product trurns out to hit a roadblock I think there is a genuine effort taken to bring it out.
Code:
Bin: 541275
Card Brand: MASTERCARD
Issuing Bank: HSCB BERMUDA (THE BANK OF BERMUDA LIMITED)
Card Type:
Card Level:
Iso Country Name: BERMUDA
Iso Country A2: BM
Iso Country A3: BMU
Iso Country Number: 060
Bank's website: www.bocfr.com
Edit: I'm not sure how accurate this is, the website points to bank of china in paris
Wikipedia supports that this # is associated with an HSBC MasterCard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Issuer_Identification_Numbers
Its a made up number for promotional cards in marketing material. It was a joke.
+1000 - when I worked at Verifone all our MasterCard "test cards" that had to have a valid BIN and checksum digit - but didn't actually exist or carry balances - were 5472 75XX XXXX XXXX numbers.
Plus, y'know the part where the rest of the card is 6789 012345 and the bit where they were willing to post the whole number on a random forum should've been a big big hint that it's a mockup.
Still, good mockup and glad to see progress!
Code:
Bin: 541275
Card Brand: MASTERCARD
Issuing Bank: HSCB BERMUDA (THE BANK OF BERMUDA LIMITED)
Card Type:
Card Level:
Iso Country Name: BERMUDA
Iso Country A2: BM
Iso Country A3: BMU
Iso Country Number: 060
Bank's website: www.bocfr.com
Edit: I'm not sure how accurate this is, the website points to bank of china in paris
Wikipedia supports that this # is associated with an HSBC MasterCard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Issuer_Identification_Numbers
Its a made up number for promotional cards in marketing material. It was a joke.
More vaporware from the BitInstant boys ... that is clearly a printout of a design, not a real card.
That's a bold claim, do you have any incises to give that credability?
In the mean time I call bullshit. It's real unless you can point out what's wrong with it.
I point gnomes and fairies are real until you can disprove me, you've seen the pictures online right .... flawless logic there
So do you accuse bitinstant of fabricating the photo? Then I suggest you get at it since the burnden of proof lies on you.
Mind you I am not claiming that this picture is absolute proof of the existence of the card but that it suggests it is valid more than your simple claim that it is not. You are engaging in the typical prove me wrong fallacious reasoning. Nobody will take you serious until you back up your accusations with something.
Waitwaitwait...
So when BFL releases some preliminary product renders and folks cry "fraud" you jump on their bandwagon and assert that when the crowd shouts "fraud" the burden of proof is on the manufacturer: "Prove to us you're NOT a fraud!"
Then when BitInstant releases a preliminary product pic and folks cry "fraud" your immediate response is "nono, that's not ok you guys, those making the claims of fraud bear the burden of proof, anything else would be fallacious!"
Inconsistent reasoning is inconsistent.
But seriously...
OMGZ BITINSTANT CARD!
More vaporware from the BitInstant boys ... that is clearly a printout of a design, not a real card.
That's a bold claim, do you have any incises to give that credability?
In the mean time I call bullshit. It's real unless you can point out what's wrong with it.
I point gnomes and fairies are real until you can disprove me, you've seen the pictures online right .... flawless logic there
So do you accuse bitinstant of fabricating the photo? Then I suggest you get at it since the burnden of proof lies on you.
Mind you I am not claiming that this picture is absolute proof of the existence of the card but that it suggests it is valid more than your simple claim that it is not. You are engaging in the typical prove me wrong fallacious reasoning. Nobody will take you serious until you back up your accusations with something.
Charlie, Are we allowed to post which bank owns that BIN/IIN, the first six digits of the card number? 
Why not? You can find it in 30s with Mr. Google.
Really? Who is it then?
Code:
Bin: 541275
Card Brand: MASTERCARD
Issuing Bank: HSCB BERMUDA (THE BANK OF BERMUDA LIMITED)
Card Type:
Card Level:
Iso Country Name: BERMUDA
Iso Country A2: BM
Iso Country A3: BMU
Iso Country Number: 060
Bank's website: www.bocfr.com
Edit: I'm not sure how accurate this is, the website points to bank of china in paris
Wikipedia supports that this # is associated with an HSBC MasterCard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Issuer_Identification_Numbers
i think i can smell the honey from here ... honey wheat beer is it?
... name, address, occupation, SSN , health-card, TBF rego, all rolled into one usuable bitcoin address ... tatto it onto your inner wrist and you're all good to go.
More vaporware from the BitInstant boys ... that is clearly a printout of a design, not a real card.
That's a bold claim, do you have any incises to give that credability?
In the mean time I call bullshit. It's real unless you can point out what's wrong with it.
I point gnomes and fairies are real until you can disprove me, you've seen the pictures online right .... flawless logic there
More vaporware from the BitInstant boys ... that is clearly a printout of a design, not a real card.
That's a bold claim, do you have any incises to give that credability?
In the mean time I call bullshit. It's real unless you can point out what's wrong with it.
More vaporware from the BitInstant boys ... that is clearly a printout of a design, not a real card. They have been promising the "first bitcoin card" since July, while in reality, other services had loadable cards that you could load with bitcoins (or MtGox vouchers) years before them...
Kudos to their marketing department though! They know how to stir a fuzz with not much and spin some facts!
Kudos to their marketing department though! They know how to stir a fuzz with not much and spin some facts!
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