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Topic: Merit became a business. What to do? - page 3. (Read 1598 times)

full member
Activity: 244
Merit: 100
May 02, 2018, 02:23:08 PM
#64
Nowadays many people are using their merit as a business, but merit isn't business Bitcointalk start this system for others who help  everyone who have a general knowledge, so I hope Bitcointalk can find who sends his merit for business,
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 3061
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May 01, 2018, 04:57:57 AM
#63
The problem of selling merits is very acute. At the forum this is not so noticeable, but in Telegram, just tons of groups offering such services. Of course the merit system is still far from perfect, but in the end it will benefit the forum and the community.

There are probably lots of people offering bitcointalk accounts and feedback too outside of the forum. As I said before, many of them will likely just be scammers taking chances but any sort of restrictions that you put in place that can be earned y doing something is going to be gamed/exploited. The only way I can think to stop it completely is to remove signatures completely and charge people a substantial fee for them. At least nobody can farm accounts in any capacity then. I think the merit system should stay though.
member
Activity: 147
Merit: 10
May 01, 2018, 03:07:39 AM
#62
The problem of selling merits is very acute. At the forum this is not so noticeable, but in Telegram, just tons of groups offering such services. Of course the merit system is still far from perfect, but in the end it will benefit the forum and the community.
I hope to see list of those groups, which will help me out abusement hunters join and scan around to find abusers, which in turn will contribute to clean up our forum.
Of course, there are side effects that more account farmers will fall into merit trading. Nevertheless, due to merit system tracking specifications and lots of radars in the forum, they will be catched someday.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 501
April 30, 2018, 08:25:16 AM
#61
The problem of selling merits is very acute. At the forum this is not so noticeable, but in Telegram, just tons of groups offering such services. Of course the merit system is still far from perfect, but in the end it will benefit the forum and the community.
full member
Activity: 1442
Merit: 108
April 29, 2018, 08:45:10 AM
#60
Theymos said not to worry from the point of running out sMerits not from the point of open buying/selling IMO.

This statement is consistent with the Forum's stance that they don't ban the promotion of fraudulent or questionable activity. The proper course of action is to post a scam accusation thread in the Reputation or Scam Accusation board.

You could also post negative trust for anyone selling or buying merit in such public fashion it can't be questioned. But this approach reeks of witch hunting.

Would be interesting to see how much tolerance is allowed for merit use ?

Repeated merit abuse should result in permanent ban in my opinion. Some people are not concerned about negative trust on their account simply because they are not using the account for signature campaign. Also, there are members buying accounts with negative trust here as well.
legendary
Activity: 2814
Merit: 2472
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April 29, 2018, 05:48:33 AM
#59

Thank you for the response. And no it's not too much to ask for quality, the problem that I'm seeing is that the merit system is not enough because most people do not care to give merit for quality posts. It basically just leaves it for a lot of abusers.

I'm so tired of reading this type of comment. I dropped my standards from 'quality' to 'good', and I still have trouble finding posts that I like, and when I do, it's often a legendary.

Most posts suffer from foot and mouth disease. Don't engage brain, open mouth, and put your foot in it.
full member
Activity: 519
Merit: 122
April 29, 2018, 05:39:20 AM
#58
thats why me gets no merits till now even after good suggestive and usefull posts
No, you're getting no merits because your grasp of English is so bad that you even screwed up your username.

I can't believe how utterly moronic these people are, that they really think that because they "workhard" that they're somehow entitled to get merits, and that they see nothing wrong with garbage shitposts like

me too afraid to invest my BTC was thinking and thinking to invest but  slowly slowly btc going down and im in loss so do as much as quick and correct discussion as soon as possible ...

I can't even understand the first fucking 6 words of that post, so there's no way I would even continue reading it, much less actually award merits for it.  This guy is probably a 12 year old Filipino kid, picking his nose and wheedling his mother for pocket change.  Even worse, it's probably family who introduced him to bitcointalk.
thanks) laughed from souls
jr. member
Activity: 65
Merit: 2
April 29, 2018, 01:03:43 AM
#57
This might be a stupid question, but really what's the point of merit? To show that one is a good poster? Are signature campaign really affected by this?

You are not alone asking this questions so don't worry not a stupid question, here is quote from the thyemos, bitcointalk's owner and administrator. He is hoping to achieve two simple tasks out this merit crap.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

So is it too much to ask for a quality?

Thank you for the response. And no it's not too much to ask for quality, the problem that I'm seeing is that the merit system is not enough because most people do not care to give merit for quality posts. It basically just leaves it for a lot of abusers.
copper member
Activity: 1526
Merit: 2890
April 29, 2018, 12:59:29 AM
#56
This might be a stupid question, but really what's the point of merit? To show that one is a good poster? Are signature campaign really affected by this?

You are not alone asking this questions so don't worry not a stupid question, here is a quote from thyemos, bitcointalk's owner and administrator. He is hoping to achieve two simple tasks out this merit crap.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

So is it too much to ask for a quality?
jr. member
Activity: 65
Merit: 2
April 28, 2018, 11:48:57 PM
#55
This might be a stupid question, but really what's the point of merit? To show that one is a good poster? Are signature campaign really affected by this?
full member
Activity: 350
Merit: 100
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April 28, 2018, 05:35:20 PM
#54
Thanks for your answers. Today i seen two thread with sell accounts :

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/one-legendary-account-with-positive-trust-3044231
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-legendary-member-account-2736633

Its bad , forum  shouldn't became in market.

Are you kidding me 500$ for legendary account??
Really shame on you who ever was the the owner this account.. this is the price you giving to your TIME you spent on this account??

Edit: Oops my bad... there is good chance that account might be the hacked one.

Stealing an account and selling it is one possibility, and it's one reason why it's probably not worth buying them. It will probably be detected before you can get your money back.

Selling a genuine account might be worth it if you are giving up on Bitcoin Talk. I think we are at the start of a new period of growth, so now is not the time to quit.
selling a legendary account for 500$ is no way possible the owner is not that crazy to do so.
It surely a stolen account,and if it is a stolen one then it will be detected and be banned by the moderators.
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Activity: 350
Merit: 100
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April 28, 2018, 05:31:09 PM
#53
members like us have to report them in forum so that moderators can see what are they doing and take further action for the good of this forum.
I dont know there is any section/thread for report merit sellers/buyers. If there is any please kindly drop the link anyone.
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 251
April 28, 2018, 03:55:24 PM
#52
Be careful, it could be a hacked account, preferably using escrow services to transact, but the price is for a legendary account, is quite cheap.
legendary
Activity: 2814
Merit: 2472
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April 28, 2018, 03:37:41 AM
#51
Thanks for your answers. Today i seen two thread with sell accounts :

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/one-legendary-account-with-positive-trust-3044231
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-legendary-member-account-2736633

Its bad , forum  shouldn't became in market.

Are you kidding me 500$ for legendary account??
Really shame on you who ever was the the owner this account.. this is the price you giving to your TIME you spent on this account??

Edit: Oops my bad... there is good chance that account might be the hacked one.

Stealing an account and selling it is one possibility, and it's one reason why it's probably not worth buying them. It will probably be detected before you can get your money back.

Selling a genuine account might be worth it if you are giving up on Bitcoin Talk. I think we are at the start of a new period of growth, so now is not the time to quit.
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1253
So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
April 28, 2018, 03:27:12 AM
#50
People just care with merit. Whereas the real purpose of this forum is to share knowledge about Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency. I don't think this forum will be like this. Just care about Bounty and Merit.

The forum was not like this a few years back when there were people who used to talk about differenet crypto and their trading methods and how they are facing problems or coping up with them. With the number of shittoken bounties coming up every other child born in the bottomfeeder vomitposter world countries is learning to "hunt" these bounties and not try to earn a living by conventional means. Merit stopped them like a huge stone wall which is why people are whining about it now..

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Activity: 2576
Merit: 883
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April 27, 2018, 11:41:52 PM
#49
Edit: Oops my bad... there is good chance that account might be the hacked one.

There is also a greater chance the seller doesn't even have the account and somebody will get scammed.

Anatomy of an BitcoinTalk.org account purchase SCAM.

That's equally likely in any Merit trade as well.
copper member
Activity: 1526
Merit: 2890
April 27, 2018, 03:09:01 PM
#48
Thanks for your answers. Today i seen two thread with sell accounts :

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/one-legendary-account-with-positive-trust-3044231
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-legendary-member-account-2736633

Its bad , forum  shouldn't became in market.

Are you kidding me 500$ for legendary account??
Really shame on you who ever was the the owner this account.. this is the price you giving to your TIME you spent on this account??

Edit: Oops my bad... there is good chance that account might be the hacked one.
sr. member
Activity: 1148
Merit: 307
April 27, 2018, 01:31:11 PM
#47
thats why me gets no merits till now even after good suggestive and usefull posts
No, you're getting no merits because your grasp of English is so bad that you even screwed up your username.

I can't believe how utterly moronic these people are, that they really think that because they "workhard" that they're somehow entitled to get merits, and that they see nothing wrong with garbage shitposts like

me too afraid to invest my BTC was thinking and thinking to invest but  slowly slowly btc going down and im in loss so do as much as quick and correct discussion as soon as possible ...

I can't even understand the first fucking 6 words of that post, so there's no way I would even continue reading it, much less actually award merits for it.  This guy is probably a 12 year old Filipino kid, picking his nose and wheedling his mother for pocket change.  Even worse, it's probably family who introduced him to bitcointalk.

OK, now I had my 5 minutes of true laughing Cheesy The guy performing the Dance of Merit while being even unable not to screw up his username - that's hilarious. Not to speak of his cryptic expressionistic statement quoted below. LoL. But this leads me to a big question: if he makes us laugh so much, even though unintentionally, isn't he in the end paradoxically worth a little bit of Merit?
newbie
Activity: 126
Merit: 0
April 27, 2018, 10:04:35 AM
#46
People just care with merit. Whereas the real purpose of this forum is to share knowledge about Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency. I don't think this forum will be like this. Just care about Bounty and Merit.
legendary
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1253
So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
April 27, 2018, 09:49:13 AM
#45
I dont care about the ranks,merits and etc, i do care about the spam that these signatures has caused.
You know that signatures wont be removed because they generate a huge amount of traffic to the forum? Stop being toxic for no reason whatsoever.

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Most of the DT members here are doing their shit things with the lower ranks and people who doesnt have the ability to write english,the inability to do that causing those people to get unmerciful red trusts.I know someone who has been here for 5years ,a good english speaker who does receive red trust for arguing to these godly DT members.
Specific cases have specific evidence to be proven. If there is evidence that the person is guilty of doing something illegal or against the rules or account sales then they will be negged. This has nothing to do with arguing with any DT member. Thats your imagination. Also why are you even interested in someone else's account so much? No wonder its your alt account itself.

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How is that fair ?That is purely bullshit,the pharmacist specifically is giving away red trust to those people who got him irrate,who moderate these people? and who moderate those people who put this idiot DT members?
Possibly The Pharmacist gets 100+ PMs per day. He is a human after all and thus its possible he has disabled PMs. But he would not give trust for no reason. Stop making up BS stories.
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