Highly agreed to this. For me, being helpful to other members of the community by giving them accurate suggestions or advice in specific subjects. It's a good thing for Bitcointalk to implement this system in order to make Bitcointalk forum a clean place for us to get quality questions, comments and opinions.
I have to be honest with you guys. My goal is not for the purpose of increasing rank and merits, but by simply giving value to the Bitcointalk community. They're just bonus for me, seriously. I don't pay attention to them, not even my number of posts.
I don't mind if I'll remain a Senior Member for a long time, I'm just happy to be here. I couldn't imagine my life without knowing this forum (especially the hidden gems that are airdrops/bounty programs that saved me from financial disaster).
Topic: Merit is Not Earned By Luck, But Because of Your Efforts! (Read 494 times)
There are a lot of lower ranks today wants to earn merit but the problem is they don't take any action this is the common misconceptions of them they think just comment and reply a thread does give them merit but no, this is very often if you are not a constructive poster you cannot get a large amount of merit like the others.
Sometimes you can get lucky if someone gives you.
Most of the time if you created a thread and this is a helpful and constructive post there is a higher chance that you will get merit, also most likely here on beginners and help there are a lot of good members giving merit to other users.
Sometimes you can get lucky if someone gives you.
Most of the time if you created a thread and this is a helpful and constructive post there is a higher chance that you will get merit, also most likely here on beginners and help there are a lot of good members giving merit to other users.
Also there are those that kept moaning there are insufficient Merit providers/ sources when so far, there's no lack.
Just like some making their rounds to Merit quality/ helpful posts, such as Ddmr (thanks for your contributions
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Nothing is clockwork though, and one is not always in the same mood or spirit when meriting. There are days that I find it easier than others, and not necessarily because of the content you’re reading. The same content may deem merit deserving after seeing it around for a couple of days, even if it did not the first time round.
Nevertheless, often timing is an important factor (you know, the early bird gets the worm thingy). The first few seemingly accurate respondents are more likely to get merited, than the fifth post stating a variation of the same thing, or the tenth post within the thread denoting, through its content, that its author has not read the prior replies. Timing and accuracy beat luck.
Nevertheless, often timing is an important factor (you know, the early bird gets the worm thingy). The first few seemingly accurate respondents are more likely to get merited, than the fifth post stating a variation of the same thing, or the tenth post within the thread denoting, through its content, that its author has not read the prior replies. Timing and accuracy beat luck.
There are a lot of lower ranks today wants to earn merit but the problem is they don't take any action this is the common misconceptions of them they think just comment and reply a thread does give them merit but no, this is very often if you are not a constructive poster you cannot get a large amount of merit like the others.
Sometimes you can get lucky if someone gives you.
Most of the time if you created a thread and this is a helpful and constructive post there is a higher chance that you will get merit, also most likely here on beginners and help there are a lot of good members giving merit to other users.
Sometimes you can get lucky if someone gives you.
Most of the time if you created a thread and this is a helpful and constructive post there is a higher chance that you will get merit, also most likely here on beginners and help there are a lot of good members giving merit to other users.
Maybe luck is when you make an "OKEY" content and still get some merit even if it is not good content like other members do. Or still, get 1 merit on a simple comment that you make.
For sure good topic that made in the forum sure get a lot of merits, but maybe there are times where good content do not receive merit or a lot of merit for some reason like if no one commented in your post, it is going to be in the last page of the section.
Also, there are some cases in a contest where you could easily get a lot of merits if you have a great thing to submit, we know that it gets a lot of merits compared to topics about cryptocurrency.
For sure good topic that made in the forum sure get a lot of merits, but maybe there are times where good content do not receive merit or a lot of merit for some reason like if no one commented in your post, it is going to be in the last page of the section.
Also, there are some cases in a contest where you could easily get a lot of merits if you have a great thing to submit, we know that it gets a lot of merits compared to topics about cryptocurrency.
see @rikafip i see him first time on Anniversary contest as new comers, and now he can be one of scam busters club members. He learn something analyze something and share what he know, now see how much his earned merit.
True, I was still relatively new member when I joined the anniversary contest, that was fun I must say, and I would like to see more of that. Sadly, some members even exploited that but that was kinda expected. I was not a newbie though when it comes to cryptocurrencies when I registered on the forum, and prior registering I was lurking for some time and just quietly observing what's going on. Another thing that helped me is the fact that I was active (and I still am) on other forums for many years, so environment was kinda familiar. As a matter of fact, forums even look similar (also old school type), except that it's not crypto related
But I was newbie when it comes to exposing scams ( my obsession with scammers comes from the bad experience few years ago when I lost approximately 90% of my portofolio) so I was looking up to more experienced members, and I didn't hesitate to send them PM and ask them questions every time I had some doubt how to proceed.
Pretending knowing more than they do is standard mistake, as newbies think that they have to know everything immediately in order to get merit so they plagiarize and do other dishonest stuff, while that's not really needed. All you have to do is to be active, genuinely curious and not hesitate to ask those that know more and merit will find your way.
This is hard to do. For beginners, heard if on bitcointalk they can make money.
see @rikafip i see him first time on Anniversary contest as new comers, and now he can be one of scam busters club members. He learn something analyze something and share what he know, now see how much his earned merit.
Same like you bro @aakzaki, when you are sharing your capability to make a TA, you get some merit. In other case, expert trader can came here within 2 days ago and will be shown as newbie, but
He can share his TA prediction to member and may he can get rank up faster than us because of his TA
, newbie just a rank in this forum, experience is a something that no needs a rank
That's right, I think merit is the result of an effort to create quality opinions...
I have noticed that those who get a lot of merits have quality or above-average opinions. I personally still have to learn to improve the quality of my posts so that I can attract more merit givers.
Right, even i needs to learn on how to create quality opinions to get merit. 100% effort should be put otherwise i wont get anything. But the my problem is my knowlegde in speaking in english is limited. I have noticed that those who get a lot of merits have quality or above-average opinions. I personally still have to learn to improve the quality of my posts so that I can attract more merit givers.
I remembered a story that could be called luck.
During the "10th anniversary art contest" one participant randomly sent 11 merits instead of 1 merit.
This happens when the page refreshes unexpectedly.
But subsequently, all the merit sent was returned, as the recipient realized that this was a mistake.
Just notified that I have been mentioned and come here. Yeah, I was using phone that time and wanted to send 1 merit but unfortunately, I sent the user 11 instead of 1. when I noticed it I just make a comment their that it was a mistake. Because generally I send 1-2 merits. But I never guessed that the user will sent back the merits. During the "10th anniversary art contest" one participant randomly sent 11 merits instead of 1 merit.
This happens when the page refreshes unexpectedly.
But subsequently, all the merit sent was returned, as the recipient realized that this was a mistake.
In this case what I send the user is called actually luck. But it also related to efforts. If the man don't give any effort to make the art I never try to send any merit to that posts. So always we have to make some good effort to earn merit.
Last July i received 10 merits for this post, then by checking the merit history of the sender, i concluded that it was by mistake as he usually send 1-2 points. Yes i was lucky and didn't what to do as the sender didn't even reply to that topic where i posted the merited reply and i didn't ever accumulate that number of sMerits. I won't forget that user and wish i will be able to send him total of 20 points in many times so he can get the 10 sMerits back. Whatever, i don't think it's a big deal
Somewhat it depends on luck, honestly to say. 
As said, there is a factor of luck BUT with luck, one poster can not get hundreds or thousands of merit. To receive such amount, that one needs to be a truly good poster. I agree with you but disagree with you if you totally eliminate the luck factor.
No matter how hard you tried to post so well if no one will see it seems to be nothing. And I find out that some merit is just for fun, "I'll give you some merits because as I was entertained by your post". Often to happen TBH.- Good posts need to have luck to be caught by the others (include merit sources). Bad posts are overwhelming good posts on the forum.
- After a good post is caught by the others, how many merit it will be rewarded in turn depends on luck again. If the others have more sMerits in their accounts, they can send more. If they have limited or dry out of sMerits, they might send less or zero merit for that post. For merit sources, they usually send more when their balance are topped up.
As said, there is a factor of luck BUT with luck, one poster can not get hundreds or thousands of merit. To receive such amount, that one needs to be a truly good poster. I agree with you but disagree with you if you totally eliminate the luck factor.
But anyway, that's their choice and it is not the case for me. To be honest, I'm not a good poster, not just like you and many other members here. A single merit that I receive is very encouraging to see that I was LUCKY to have someone got caught on my post (at least). And this also motivates me to improve my posting habit and to contribute more to the forum.
EFFORT + LUCK= MERIT
That's right, I think merit is the result of an effort to create quality opinions...
I have noticed that those who get a lot of merits have quality or above-average opinions. I personally still have to learn to improve the quality of my posts so that I can attract more merit givers.
I have noticed that those who get a lot of merits have quality or above-average opinions. I personally still have to learn to improve the quality of my posts so that I can attract more merit givers.
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2. Your willingness to be a knowledge-sharing member
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This is hard to do. For beginners, heard if on bitcointalk they can make money. But they don't know the process, they just aim at the results. But since this reward system was founded I have seen the effect is tremendous, this forum is getting better, many newbies are trying to be good writers and useful to others. 2. Your willingness to be a knowledge-sharing member
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I remembered a story that could be called luck.
During the "10th anniversary art contest" one participant randomly sent 11 merits instead of 1 merit.
This happens when the page refreshes unexpectedly.
But subsequently, all the merit sent was returned, as the recipient realized that this was a mistake.
Just notified that I have been mentioned and come here. Yeah, I was using phone that time and wanted to send 1 merit but unfortunately, I sent the user 11 instead of 1. when I noticed it I just make a comment their that it was a mistake. Because generally I send 1-2 merits. But I never guessed that the user will sent back the merits. During the "10th anniversary art contest" one participant randomly sent 11 merits instead of 1 merit.
This happens when the page refreshes unexpectedly.
But subsequently, all the merit sent was returned, as the recipient realized that this was a mistake.
In this case what I send the user is called actually luck. But it also related to efforts. If the man don't give any effort to make the art I never try to send any merit to that posts. So always we have to make some good effort to earn merit.
I remembered a story that could be called luck.
During the "10th anniversary art contest" one participant randomly sent 11 merits instead of 1 merit.
This happens when the page refreshes unexpectedly.
But subsequently, all the merit sent was returned, as the recipient realized that this was a mistake.
Therefore, you should not count on luck in obtaining merit. It is much easier to understand that the person who sent you the merit did so on purpose because they rated your post correctly.
During the "10th anniversary art contest" one participant randomly sent 11 merits instead of 1 merit.
This happens when the page refreshes unexpectedly.
But subsequently, all the merit sent was returned, as the recipient realized that this was a mistake.
Therefore, you should not count on luck in obtaining merit. It is much easier to understand that the person who sent you the merit did so on purpose because they rated your post correctly.
Merit is awarded whenever some members of this forum find your post(s) helpful. But that's not limited to any helpful posts, some merits are also awarded when the post makes the reader who has sMerits that can be send laugh, or something else, they liked it or they appreciated your post. But mostly, the merited posts are those that has a meaningful idea. If you are seeking for merits, then change yourself and make more meaningful and helpful contents, someone will surely appreciate your posts if they find them good.
If not for merit I would be a hero member now sad to say that I was a trying hard to become a full member. I did nkt regret and just make a way to rank up to full member with people users around that are generous in rewarding merits. Probably they see a user trying to give quality post then it is really possible to earn merit. The essence is not actually how to earn merit but by becoming a good user being helpful and contributed in the forum in such many way like creating quality and worth it to be shared posts for the common interest of the users here in the forum.
Why would someone give a merit if they dont deserve it. Deserving members will be awarded with merit which they can use to rank up thier account. A member should not base on pure luck to get merit but rather they must work for it.
[snip]that all they needed to do was to post and post and post in the hopes that someone would give them merit for their bland and uninformative posts...some even complain that they don't receive any merits but then you check their posts and all they do is post on bounty threads. 🤷♂️
Posting is a must, and no one can argue with that. And it's true what you say, I once got a message via PM asking me just one merit to go up in rank, when I tried to see the contents of the post he made was a social media bounty report from pages 1 - 8,Note: Mods have little to no saying in cases of Merit abuse per se, since sMerit awarding is not moderated. Historically, DTs have tagged accounts on either end for actions of the kind, but it’s rather controversial and subjective, and not strictly in line with the Trust core spirit (commerce related).
If indeed merit abuse for non-merit source users is not a matter for mods, of course we can still report via meta, at least the abuser gets a warning from the member who might make them stop doing this.Somewhat it depends on luck, honestly to say.
Yes, we have to distinguish between that, the luck when a good post is found, unlike the luck said by those who try to get merit but don't have a but posts that are made less worthy of being said to be deserving of merit. I agree with you some luck are happens, but from the perspective I've found in some of the posts from people who say that merit comes from luck, most of them are doesn't have a good posts as you mentioned. do they will get merit from luck if their posts habbit as @mk4 mentioned above "mostly in bounty report" except maybe as @Ddmrddmr caseQuote from: hatshepsut93 link=topic=5277734.msg55251301#msg55251301
This can easily be misinterpreted by newbies, since this statement is too general.
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Member who give you a merit, seeing of your posts quality not quantity. You want to pursue merit? It's okay, no problem. But that doesn't mean you have to chase the number of posts. The more posts you make, the more likely you will be considered as spamming.
I just don't get it when some users are making post that is not direct to the point and it is hard to understand.
Meaningless and not straightforward post really make people unable to read it much clearer. It doesn't matter if you posts with too much words, but the important thing is if it is easy to understand, you stated some facts, it is informative, and direct to the point. We should work for it and not rely on those people who are giving easy merits. Hoping that newbies will take time to read posts regarding earning merits, so that they know what to do in this forum.
Meaningless and not straightforward post really make people unable to read it much clearer. It doesn't matter if you posts with too much words, but the important thing is if it is easy to understand, you stated some facts, it is informative, and direct to the point. We should work for it and not rely on those people who are giving easy merits. Hoping that newbies will take time to read posts regarding earning merits, so that they know what to do in this forum.
There’s probably a clash of platform cultures here to factor in: The forum is more verbose prone, with posts that tend to be longer than a short one-liner, and this requires therefore more thought, than say, social network platforms such as Twitter and Telegram, where short dynamic answers are the grounds for communication. Those heavily into the latter may find it harder to earn merit here, unless they adapt their style.
In counter part, I hope that merit source will consider too the content of the post itself and not just the length of the post. In my case as merit sender, I sometimes feels like long post is too boring to read that's why I like the post that direct to the point without any sugar coating on there statement. If all post that worthy of receiving merit are only those who construct an essay type post then the majority or maybe half of the forum user here will never rank up because not all user here are good on creating an essay like statement especially on creating thread and replying on a very simple question which can be answer by a single statement.
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