Topic: Merit is the best thing that happened to new users - page 2. (Read 1872 times)

Yes, this is true. Suppose a member made a reply in 50 words about some bitcoin exchange. Now it got 50 merits from another member. It is obvious that both accounts are operated by same person or they are friends. Many of such cases had been reported here. Some people are too dumb to make it evident I guess.


Of course, it is worst thing for shit posters. They needed this treatment for quite long. And OP mentioned that merit is the best thing for the "forum" but you obviously do not care about that and are worried about your own interests here only.

No never. its the worst thing. Now we have to work even harder to get promoted for bounty programs

I agree to disagree. First, you are right that they (most of shit-posters, spammers don't have ability to write good- (not high-) quality threads because they are lack of knowledge, skills, experience. Most of the time they spent in the forum till now is for spamming with shitty posts. They don't care about knowledge, skills, then that's why they are lack of them.

But you are wrong at the following point. Right atittude is the first thing to change so many things. It's Knowledge-Attitude-Practice relationship. Changing attitude first, then getting more knowledge, and finally changing their practices by composing high-quality, constructive threads.

Additionally, part of them have knowledge, skills, experience, by which I mean only small part of them are able to write high-quality posts, but they didnt' because they have no time to write such constructive posts (they are account-farmers so dont' have too much time for each account).

It doesn't depend so much on attitude as much as linguistic ability and how stupid and lazy these shitposters are.  Even if they're now extremely motivated to write very interesting, well-written posts, most of them just don't have the ability to do so. 

Instead they scream as loud as they can how they're writing posts made out of 24k gold and there's no one giving them merit!!  They just continually fail to realize how bad their writing is.  Most can't improve even if they wanted to. 

This is why I wish sig campaigns paid for local board posts, and that those boards had reliable merit sources.  I have no problem with these people ranking up, but in trying to do it in the main section, they're crapping all over everything.  They should soil their own house, not ours.

Still early days, but indications are indeed good. Only time will tell..

That depends upon their attitude. If they have positive attitude, they will change the way they write to better one, try to write better threads; and vice versa. Someone can change and adapt to new system will survive, evolve and move to next ranks.

merit system will make newbies to post good quality information to rank up in the chain

1) You are agreeing that newbie has less knowledge and thus it is justified if he does not get merits for initial posts. He can always learn and improve.

2) Upper ranked members do not much merits to give. Major portion will come from merit sources who are appointed by admin (and thus expected to be neutral or fair).

So, for me to understand this new merit system is that if your new, you need to really dig in and read what's happening in this community, once you, as a newbie, need to contribute to topics. I'm not quite sure if a "Newbie" will have the knowledge that, let say....A Hero Member has.
Newbies and those who do post quality posting, still are relying on the Peer's of this Forum (upper ranked) members who we giving Merits to give to those in this community. 
I dont see the logic? I've been with the community since September of last year and I've really started to involve myself into this community. I've been reading much on the Merits and how they are given and how a person can rank up. It does seem a bit unfair.

I'm sure that someone with Higher Merits will respond to this posting but the thing is. Even if this is a "Quality" post. I'll be pasted up. I gave my only Merit I could to the person who made this topic. I'm writing because I feel like it wont matter if I write a quality post or not. it's left up to the "Peers" of this community and I dont see them giving anyone much of anything.

So now I'll still continue to post and do other things like Bounty but I have and will still continue to post in here for my knowledge to the Newbies.

Based on the things I've said above....Newbies dont be discourage. If you truly believe in a topic then dont be afraid to post. Dont do it for a Merit but rather do it because you are contributing to the community. 
Thank you for this topic. I at least feel good that I posted a "Quality" Post but I'm not worries about this community. It's All Good.

It's the best update, now the new users will be able to learn more quickly and will post quality posts and that will help them get more merit points based upon their quality Post.

I think it's a good thing happen with all members in this forum , not only new members but theymos actually needs a tweak on reducing the requirement merit for Member and Full Member cause in my personality , it's quite high.

Indeed,As a newbie i admit that this makes a model for me,and do what i can to be a good member to the forum.

Perseverance,eagerness and attitude that the OP possess made him a great poster.This should be an example for all the people who keeps on complaining about the merit system.Besides, the system itself is not the problem but the people who can't accept it and makes this community worse.

Its a great post from Kaar. And I surely agree with him .It proves that really the merit system is working fine. One merit from me!

Yes and many beginners will learn the quickest way as possible with the use of merit system. Because there are many beginners that tend to post useless to rank up quickly.

Thats really cool. I dont have many merits but based on what you said I'll send you one. thats how we evolve.
 

Only for Hero Members with over 750 activty, my dear, and if you don't believe me look at my activity and compare it with my rank
Jokes apart, theymos has in fact mentioned once that also lower high ranking members who were about to grow in rank at the moment of the change of rules should eventually be given the missing merits after a rewiew of their posting history, or something like that, but I didn't see any traces on the forum of this having ever happened, at least no-one has mentioned cases in this meta area of the forum.

The admin made some adjustments for such unlucky members.

Great post I have been really not in favor in this merit system when I first saw it but when I read something about it I found out that this is a really good thing for all of us,
For all of the forum users this would really lessen those spammer,account farmers and other's who are abusing the forum.
These would make the forum much more informative I was here because one of my friends told me about this forum that I could learn somethings about crypto currencies by this forum,
And I learn how to trade what to do in crypto's and learn to be patient.

But what would you suggest? Moderators deleting the supposed useless posts and threads? I agree that it would probably be an easy decision in some cases, but this could be easily compared, or at least confused, with censorship. Mods already created the serious discussion board, and now they can try to promote a "subjective metric" (because it's still based on opinion, but there is no way to do it in any other way) on how good or valuable are the users contributions in terms of contents to this forum.