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Topic: Merit Overflow of ltcrstrbrt - page 4. (Read 1928 times)

legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1057
December 31, 2022, 08:20:02 AM
#19
 Another "suspicious" activity:

What's the point of giving merits to a Signature Manager after accepting someone in their campaigns ? Only because someone manage a bounty campaign can get tons of merit points? Is it that valuable for this forum? it can make that user more trustworthy? No! But that's a human behavior! and it doesn't affect me with nothing!! It's a free world and free forum ( Thanks Theymos and... for this)
""I make you a favor you return me the favor "" and vice versa.

I'm not saying that here, especialy here, does not exist scammers! And I'm not talking about cryptoworld !!  I lost more then 100k usdt  in 2021 in one scam generated by mechbeth arena  via BSC chain...  and even to this day I have not recovered my money.. But making accusations based on ""who gave it to who "" it doesn't make any sense.

When you make accusation you should have some proofs  and " I thing that.." is not a proof.

hero member
Activity: 1050
Merit: 681
December 31, 2022, 08:09:14 AM
#18
First of all, You should not make false accusations based on thin air,
Imo, Its not out of thin air and no coincidence that all those accounts mentioned by OP are connected.

secondly I didn't asked you for a loan! I asked how many can you lend and for what time!!!
Lol, both the sentences have the same meaning, isnt it?. Indirectly, you did ask for a loan but let the amount be decided by the lender.

Searching for a loan  among community members starting to be a crime?
Here, your way of presenting yourself makes it look like a potential scam attempt. Let me tell you, even I have an active non-collateral loan from @shasan and its not a crime ;P

BTW, you asked me how I got these merits ...contacts etc... bare in mind that in 2016 (ie.) in my town ( 40k res) where around 25 BitcoinTalk users and more than 40 miners ... Also 3 Icos started from my town... people are talking each others they meeting etc... I'm not living in the jungle...
Now you sound like a (potential) scammer, merit abuser and troll all in one lmao..


Therefore, it is better to put a neutral trust to remind the possibility that these accounts are alts and to take this topic as a reference if any additional evidence is found, and then a negative trust can be given.
If the user tried joining in a camp. (with merit abuse) managed by @yahoo, he would've gotten a red mark straight away by now.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 3098
December 31, 2022, 08:08:03 AM
#17
It is verified too. That means this account has not changed ownership. But what about merit abuse??? Would you like to say anything about merit abuse?

this doesn't have to mean anything. there is nothing significant at this address except useless shit tokens. the last transaction was a year ago, and then all Ethereum was withdrawn, the only thing worth there. very possible right before the sale.
scammers and account resellers know about this type of check and there is no reason to give a private key from some useless bounty address, just as they give access to the email address to which the account is registered.
I wouldn't trust this account for a more serious trade, especially not after dubious merit transactions.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1057
December 31, 2022, 07:48:01 AM
#16
everyone can ask for merits ( sending and giving between users, that's the point of merit/smerit system ).. there are many users sending merits to each others even that posts doesn't deserve anything... That's a weakness of it. But that's not the question here... I can receive merits from unknown users and also from relatives/friends etc .
The point is that you woke up several years ago and all the 3 users also came here several years later. Changed the email and/or password and then sent you merits and went away once again. Do you not think there is obviously something misuse??? There is no one who could find out your valuable posts and these 3 users came and found your posts valuable and sent merit?Huh? Or you have asked them to send merit. If it is the point then how are you contacted? You sent a message via the forum and they saw the message then came back on the forum and merited your post/posts??

Therefore, it is better to put a neutral trust to remind the possibility that these accounts are alts and to take this topic as a reference if any additional evidence is found, and then a negative trust can be given.
More important thing is that trying to show more merit to receive a loan. Aked a loan via private message, I don't know how many messages were sent. I can confirm that I have received the loan request via private message. And these posts were created mainly for making aware of the activity to lender/campaign manager.
First of all, You should not make false accusations based on thin air, secondly I didn't asked you for a loan! I asked how many can you lend and for what time!!! There was a short PM ( I'll not post here ).. Trying to be so aggressive doesn't make you better, don't you? I see that you are quite new on BitcoinTalk ( from 2018) wondering where have you been when this forum needed you? When this forum needed to grow up... It doesn't matter!

Everyone has good and bad periods of time...I was lucky when in the 2015-2017 and unlucky starting  from 2019 until now...but thats about my personal life!!
Searching for a loan  among community members starting to be a crime?

BTW, you asked me how I got these merits ...contacts etc... bare in mind that in 2016 (ie.) in my town ( 40k res) where around 25 BitcoinTalk users and more than 40 miners ... Also 3 Icos started from my town... people are talking each others they meeting etc... I'm not living in the jungle...
copper member
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1241
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December 31, 2022, 07:19:25 AM
#15
everyone can ask for merits ( sending and giving between users, that's the point of merit/smerit system ).. there are many users sending merits to each others even that posts doesn't deserve anything... That's a weakness of it. But that's not the question here... I can receive merits from unknown users and also from relatives/friends etc .
The point is that you woke up several years ago and all the 3 users also came here several years later. Changed the email and/or password and then sent you merits and went away once again. Do you not think there is obviously something misuse??? There is no one who could find out your valuable posts and these 3 users came and found your posts valuable and sent merit?Huh? Or you have asked them to send merit. If it is the point then how are you contacted? You sent a message via the forum and they saw the message then came back on the forum and merited your post/posts??

Therefore, it is better to put a neutral trust to remind the possibility that these accounts are alts and to take this topic as a reference if any additional evidence is found, and then a negative trust can be given.
More important thing is that trying to show more merit to receive a loan. Aked a loan via private message, I don't know how many messages were sent. I can confirm that I have received the loan request via private message. And these posts were created mainly for making aware of the activity to lender/campaign manager.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 3548
Buy/Sell crypto at BestChange
December 31, 2022, 07:17:33 AM
#14
It is verified too. That means this account has not changed ownership. But what about merit abuse??? Would you like to say anything about merit abuse?
I will quote @theymos here:
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Merit sales, transfers to aliases, back-and-forth trading, etc. are not much of an issue. All illegitimate merit will decay, and will account for a tiny and very expensive fraction of the total merit economy. It's basically a rounding error; fight it where convenient, but waste no sleep over it.


So I think unless with these a Merit source it is difficult for them to continue to get more free merits and therefore no one will hire them, which means that they are forced to create high-quality posts.

Therefore, it is better to put a neutral trust to remind the possibility that these accounts are alts and to take this topic as a reference if any additional evidence is found, and then a negative trust can be given.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1057
December 31, 2022, 07:11:45 AM
#13

It is verified too. That means this account has not changed ownership. But what about merit abuse??? Would you like to say anything about merit abuse?

There is a possibility that the account was sold with the private key. I have seen such offers in Telegram groups and on fiverr.

The facts still stand, the user in question recently woke up (after two years of inactivity) and applied for a loan and a sig campaign, and at the same time received merits from the accounts with a suspicious history and also long inactivity. This raises suspicions of merit abuse and potential loan scams.


@ltcrstrbrt, it seems to me that there are only two possible explanations for the merits you received on your account. Either the accounts that gave you merits are controlled by you (alt accounts) or you acquired the merits through some sort of purchase. Is there any other explanation that I'm not considering?

everyone can ask for merits ( sending and giving between users, that's the point of merit/smerit system ).. there are many users sending merits to each others even that posts doesn't deserve anything... That's a weakness of it. But that's not the question here... I can receive merits from unknown users and also from relatives/friends etc .. So where is the problem? As I've posted few years ago ( her: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28873887 ) about this system. Only selling and buying merits  is prohibited. Guys, do you have other points of view?
hero member
Activity: 1358
Merit: 888
🇺🇦 Glory to Ukraine!
December 31, 2022, 06:41:10 AM
#12

It is verified too. That means this account has not changed ownership. But what about merit abuse??? Would you like to say anything about merit abuse?

There is a possibility that the account was sold with the private key. I have seen such offers in Telegram groups and on fiverr.

The facts still stand, the user in question recently woke up (after two years of inactivity) and applied for a loan and a sig campaign, and at the same time received merits from the accounts with a suspicious history and also long inactivity. This raises suspicions of merit abuse and potential loan scams.


@ltcrstrbrt, it seems to me that there are only two possible explanations for the merits you received on your account. Either the accounts that gave you merits are controlled by you (alt accounts) or you acquired the merits through some sort of purchase. Is there any other explanation that I'm not considering?
copper member
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1241
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December 31, 2022, 05:57:26 AM
#11

  "address": "0x0984274936f54ab6d34b6e4c1a8aaa92416e5cfe",
  "msg":
  "0x4c746372737472627274206973206d7920426974636f696e54616b206163636f756e7420616e6 4204927276d20696e2066756c6c20636f6e74726f6c206f662069742e",
  "sig": "a933df93b754b9e1f94395540dc775d1fc9c60ea64e9f5fc6cb9f9d361baa7cc3a499a2a6f49d2f 0e3aa4cb5c85f5bea174e3cffe27844c80f7fc8456c859a121c",
  "version": "3",
  "signer": "MEW"

I can't verify using etherscan, is anyone else is able to do it?!
Anyway even if you prove the ownership of your account, your acts are still questionable regarding merit overflow (i.e. giving fake merits to self without any positive contribution in the forum just for getting accepted into a sig. campaign) and not acceptable.
Verified https://etherscan.io/verifySig/13131
You were not able to verify for three reasons.
1. S/he not added 0x at the beginning of the signature code
2. Used breakdown on the message while copy paste
3. Used breakdown on the signature while copy paste



  "address": "0x0984274936f54ab6d34b6e4c1a8aaa92416e5cfe",
  "msg": "0x496d204c7463727374726272742066726f6d20426974636f696e74616c6b20616e6420496d206 96e2066756c6c20636f6e74726f6c20206f662074686973206163636f756e74",
  "sig": "56dba2e191be4e3b0b823a6b89b060463401c63ba565873f1110761e886fa8f550cdb181e6bf308 d1a645a39d474f30f8e48aeb9254c16f32d4e1c7c2b7d44e51b",
  "version": "3",
  "signer": "MEW"


When you verify a MEW signed msg via Etherscan you should add "0x" before entering signature hash into the field.

https://etherscan.io/verifySig/13131
It is verified too. That means this account has not changed ownership. But what about merit abuse??? Would you like to say anything about merit abuse?
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1057
December 31, 2022, 05:42:28 AM
#10

  "address": "0x0984274936f54ab6d34b6e4c1a8aaa92416e5cfe",
  "msg":
  "0x4c746372737472627274206973206d7920426974636f696e54616b206163636f756e7420616e6 4204927276d20696e2066756c6c20636f6e74726f6c206f662069742e",
  "sig": "a933df93b754b9e1f94395540dc775d1fc9c60ea64e9f5fc6cb9f9d361baa7cc3a499a2a6f49d2f 0e3aa4cb5c85f5bea174e3cffe27844c80f7fc8456c859a121c",
  "version": "3",
  "signer": "MEW"

I can't verify using etherscan, is anyone else is able to do it?!
Anyway even if you prove the ownership of your account, your acts are still questionable regarding merit overflow (i.e. giving fake merits to self without any positive contribution in the forum just for getting accepted into a sig. campaign) and not acceptable.
another one:

  "address": "0x0984274936f54ab6d34b6e4c1a8aaa92416e5cfe",
  "msg": "0x496d204c7463727374726272742066726f6d20426974636f696e74616c6b20616e6420496d206 96e2066756c6c20636f6e74726f6c20206f662074686973206163636f756e74",
  "sig": "56dba2e191be4e3b0b823a6b89b060463401c63ba565873f1110761e886fa8f550cdb181e6bf308 d1a645a39d474f30f8e48aeb9254c16f32d4e1c7c2b7d44e51b",
  "version": "3",
  "signer": "MEW"


When you verify a MEW signed msg via Etherscan you should add "0x" before entering signature hash into the field.

https://etherscan.io/verifySig/13131
hero member
Activity: 1050
Merit: 681
December 31, 2022, 03:59:47 AM
#9

  "address": "0x0984274936f54ab6d34b6e4c1a8aaa92416e5cfe",
  "msg":
  "0x4c746372737472627274206973206d7920426974636f696e54616b206163636f756e7420616e6 4204927276d20696e2066756c6c20636f6e74726f6c206f662069742e",
  "sig": "a933df93b754b9e1f94395540dc775d1fc9c60ea64e9f5fc6cb9f9d361baa7cc3a499a2a6f49d2f 0e3aa4cb5c85f5bea174e3cffe27844c80f7fc8456c859a121c",
  "version": "3",
  "signer": "MEW"

I can't verify using etherscan, is anyone else is able to do it?!
Anyway even if you prove the ownership of your account, your acts are still questionable regarding merit overflow (i.e. giving fake merits to self without any positive contribution in the forum just for getting accepted into a sig. campaign) and not acceptable.
legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1057
December 31, 2022, 03:38:26 AM
#8


Just relax and stay calm. It's so easy to make false accusations nowadays.

You've posted the ETH address 0x0984274936F54ab6D34B6E4c1A8aAA92416e5cfe quite a few times in the past. At the very least, can you sign a message from it to show that your account hasn't been hacked? There's also quite a few other addresses that would work too.



  "address": "0x0984274936f54ab6d34b6e4c1a8aaa92416e5cfe",
  "msg":
  "0x4c746372737472627274206973206d7920426974636f696e54616b206163636f756e7420616e6 4204927276d20696e2066756c6c20636f6e74726f6c206f662069742e",
  "sig": "a933df93b754b9e1f94395540dc775d1fc9c60ea64e9f5fc6cb9f9d361baa7cc3a499a2a6f49d2f 0e3aa4cb5c85f5bea174e3cffe27844c80f7fc8456c859a121c",
  "version": "3",
  "signer": "MEW"
copper member
Activity: 2688
Merit: 1145
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December 31, 2022, 12:56:55 AM
#7
Just relax and stay calm. It's so easy to make false accusations nowadays.

Said by a user that woke up just to apply for a loan and received merits at the same time from same account that recently woke up.

Clearly your account is compromised either sold to you or just hacked. Proving ownership to this account still shady due to the recent behavior towards merit abuse and potential loan scam. There’s a chance that the account is sold with private key so dealing with this user is extremely dangerous.
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 3282
December 31, 2022, 12:52:37 AM
#6
I think all the account is operated by the same person and have done merit abuse to take the loan and/or take part on a signature. If can gain a loan then there is no chance of repayment. So, we (the community) should be aware of being scammed by ltcrstrbrt.

I agree with this. They also tried asking me for a loan and kept trying to convince me that they are the original owner of the account.


Just relax and stay calm. It's so easy to make false accusations nowadays.

You've posted the ETH address 0x0984274936F54ab6D34B6E4c1A8aAA92416e5cfe quite a few times in the past. At the very least, can you sign a message from it to show that your account hasn't been hacked? There's also quite a few other addresses that would work too.
hero member
Activity: 966
Merit: 801
December 31, 2022, 12:34:14 AM
#5
All of the 4 accounts never make post before 29 December 2022 to 2020 which is the gap is really far, woke up from long period activity, all of them are Romanian, giving sMerit after a long period inactivity, how can those coincidence make sense if it's come from 4 different peoples?

I'm going to give a red tag because there's a chance they will scam which is high risk of losing money, gladly @OP didn't give him no collateral loans and warn to the other users.
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 2025
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
December 30, 2022, 11:35:12 PM
#4
I would like to add a couple of interesting facts about this accusation, the accounts themselves performed these merit transactions almost at the day and time, also they seemed to try to cover their tracks by giving merits to reputable and well known members of this community. The only merited user which appears in the three merit histories is ltcrstrbrt and GazetaBitcoin appearing in two of them.

In my personal opinion, the fact these accounts woke up/changed credentials to merit this way some post this antique is fairly suspicious, for now I will only step aside and wait for further evidence and statements from people who are better getting such evidence.

Good catch Shasan.

https://ninjastic.space/user/id/214323?merits






legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1057
December 30, 2022, 08:55:14 PM
#3
I am posting here as there is a chance of losing funds from a lender. I think ltcrstrbrt gained merit in an unethical way and now ltcrstrbrt is trying to take a loan which might be scammed.


bluedeep gave 14 merits to a post which has been posted about 3 years ago. And bluedeep was inactive in 2018 and just came on the forum to provide merit to ltcrstrbrt. bluedeep Not only woke up but also email changed to give merit. They Might be alt accounts too.

speeder gave 16 merit to ltcrstrbrt in the post which has been created about more than 3 years ago. speeder is a negatively trusted user and the trust is for accounts sold/hacked. This account is also changed email and become active for only to give merit to ltcrstrbrt.

Averim gave 2 merits to a post which has been created about 3 years ago. This user also wakes up from a long time of inactivity to give the merit.


I think all the account is operated by the same person and have done merit abuse to take the loan and/or take part on a signature. If can gain a loan then there is no chance of repayment. So, we (the community) should be aware of being scammed by ltcrstrbrt.
Just relax and stay calm. It's so easy to make false accusations nowadays.
copper member
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1241
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December 30, 2022, 08:04:51 PM
#2
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copper member
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December 30, 2022, 08:03:59 PM
#1
I am posting here as there is a chance of losing funds from a lender. I think ltcrstrbrt gained merit in an unethical way and now ltcrstrbrt is trying to take a loan which might be scammed.


bluedeep gave 14 merits to a post which has been posted about 3 years ago. And bluedeep was inactive in 2018 and just came on the forum to provide merit to ltcrstrbrt. bluedeep Not only woke up but also email changed to give merit. They Might be alt accounts too.

speeder gave 16 merit to ltcrstrbrt in the post which has been created about more than 3 years ago. speeder is a negatively trusted user and the trust is for accounts sold/hacked. This account is also changed email and become active for only to give merit to ltcrstrbrt.

Averim gave 2 merits to a post which has been created about 3 years ago. This user also wakes up from a long time of inactivity to give the merit.


I think all the account is operated by the same person and have done merit abuse to take the loan and/or take part on a signature. If can gain a loan then there is no chance of repayment. So, we (the community) should be aware of being scammed by ltcrstrbrt.
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