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Topic: Merit point giveaway for alt coin miners Question to mod of altcoin mining. (Read 982 times)

legendary
Activity: 4102
Merit: 7765
'The right to privacy matters'
sr. member
Activity: 2422
Merit: 318

Tell me again why you deserve to be ranked up. You shouldn't have even made it to Full Member.



Please stop lying, I never said I deserve it. I just said if purpose is to make it fair, it should
treat everyone equal, and current system doesn't do that. I don't see how purposefully
cherrypicking some of my posts to make me look bad contributes to the health of forum, either

Everyone is not equal.

Users in this community earn merit/respect/trust based on value they add to the community over time.

I'll be honest, I have no clue what "rank" I am. The users who know me know the value I add to the community.

EDIT: Just looked. I got a merit point! yay.


Yes, but thats the case only recently, since merit is introduced. And if you didn't know whats your rank, you would not know how
to choose DeepOnion signature Wink
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1123
I never said I deserve it.

Oh good, then we both agree that you do not deserve to rank-up.
Then there is no problem.

I just said if purpose is to make it fair, it should
treat everyone equal, and current system doesn't do that. I don't see how purposefully
cherrypicking some of my posts to make me look bad contributes to the health of forum, either

The purpose is not to make it "fair" or treat everyone equally; equity is not the goal. The goal is to discourage people like yourself from posting nonsense (because the primary benefit has been nullified), as I have referenced. The purpose was exactly the opposite of treating everyone equal; it was meant to separate people like you from people that contribute to the community and reward the people that actually contribute. That was not cherry-picking, that is representative of your posting as a whole.

Pointing out your flaws, bad-habits and harmful activity in hopes that you improve yourself, see the error of your ways or just get discouraged enough to leave the forum entirely would certainly be good for the forum.

I am not going to continue muddying philip's thread, by going back and forth with someone that doesn't deserve it. If you'd like to continue this conversation, send me a PM; not contributing anymore to your worthless attempt to farm merit/activity.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 251

Tell me again why you deserve to be ranked up. You shouldn't have even made it to Full Member.



Please stop lying, I never said I deserve it. I just said if purpose is to make it fair, it should
treat everyone equal, and current system doesn't do that. I don't see how purposefully
cherrypicking some of my posts to make me look bad contributes to the health of forum, either

Everyone is not equal.

Users in this community earn merit/respect/trust based on value they add to the community over time.

I'll be honest, I have no clue what "rank" I am. The users who know me know the value I add to the community.

EDIT: Just looked. I got a merit point! yay.
sr. member
Activity: 2422
Merit: 318

Tell me again why you deserve to be ranked up. You shouldn't have even made it to Full Member.



Please stop lying, I never said I deserve it. I just said if purpose is to make it fair, it should
treat everyone equal, and current system doesn't do that. I don't see how purposefully
cherrypicking some of my posts to make me look bad contributes to the health of forum, either
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1123
What you say doesn't make much sense, because you just told me that if my account was 10 days older, I would deserve to be Senior member, but because I didn't sign up 10 days earlier,
I deserve it to be postponed few years? Cheesy

Ranks mean a lot if you're into bounty campaigns

I never said that and I would highly recommend you stop lying. Please, where did I ever say that you deserved to be ranked up if you signed up 10-days earlier? You either have me confused with somebody else, you have no clue what I'm saying or you are blatantly lying.

If you cannot earn merit as intended, then you should be postponed indefinitely; you should never rank up if you are unable to earn merit.

You should be more into the health of the forum than you are about your own rank, but it appears you care more about your rank for signature campaigns then you care about the forum. This says a lot about you, so please stop purposefully twisting my words so that you can say something you believe to be witty and cute.


These represent 99% of your posts, they are not even a full sentence, they add nothing to the conversation, you regularly post in useless mega-threads. I see why you are upset, because you post nonsense all day.

Good list, but why you think Daneel doesn't have competition? What about one in my sig (Gimmer)?
Poor zombies
I concur
I think you have problem with math Smiley
What card?
Price just exploded

Starting to see a pattern? I could go all day with these type of posts from you. I haven't even edited these, this is your full post for each of these quotes.

Now tell me, do you think you deserve merit or a rank up for these posts? This is almost your entire post history, and I want to make it clear You should not rank up, at all, unless serious changes to your contributions and posting habits occur.

You even received merit for these two posts (which you should not have) :

...and I think we're bound to look for another signature campaign Smiley
$100 before end of February

Tell me again why you deserve to be ranked up. You shouldn't have even made it to Full Member.

sr. member
Activity: 2422
Merit: 318
While I agree with you, I also think default merit should be given in a better way...proportionally to days/posts maybe....
this way someone who just got Full member status and me, few days before reaching Senior member, got same starting merit points, so I'm actually slowed down lot more

I do not think the default merit should have been given in a different way. I'm not saying it's perfect, but "days/posts" would not have been a better way of doing things. It is unfortunate for the people that were about to rank up and deserve to be ranked up, but I'm going to be honest with you; most of the people complaining about this exact scenario are people who do not deserve to be ranked up and may never rank up with the current system. This tells me that merit is working exactly as it is intended to.

If you truly are deserving of that rank, you should earn the merit in no time, plus what's the rush? Ranks do not mean much, and won't mean much until the merit system has a chance to settle in and the older high-ranking accounts that don't belong are weeded out.

My main point, slowing you down has done no harm to your forum experience, but it has improved the overall health of the forum by stopping spammers in their tracks (in terms of ranking up).


What you say doesn't make much sense, because you just told me that if my account was 10 days older, I would deserve to be Senior member, but because I didn't sign up 10 days earlier,
I deserve it to be postponed few years? Cheesy

Ranks mean a lot if you're into bounty campaigns
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1123
While I agree with you, I also think default merit should be given in a better way...proportionally to days/posts maybe....
this way someone who just got Full member status and me, few days before reaching Senior member, got same starting merit points, so I'm actually slowed down lot more

I do not think the default merit should have been given in a different way. I'm not saying it's perfect, but "days/posts" would not have been a better way of doing things. It is unfortunate for the people that were about to rank up and deserve to be ranked up, but I'm going to be honest with you; most of the people complaining about this exact scenario are people who do not deserve to be ranked up and may never rank up with the current system. This tells me that merit is working exactly as it is intended to.

If you truly are deserving of that rank, you should earn the merit in no time, plus what's the rush? Ranks do not mean much, and won't mean much until the merit system has a chance to settle in and the older high-ranking accounts that don't belong are weeded out.

My main point, slowing you down has done no harm to your forum experience, but it has improved the overall health of the forum by stopping spammers in their tracks (in terms of ranking up).
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 251
Merit points are earned not given away.

Just like trust. It takes a LONG time to build trust on BCT.
sr. member
Activity: 2422
Merit: 318

The old system had flaws .

Post a few times a week and make rank.

Have multiple accounts create a few threads and in a year. Of posting to yourself and your alts you can have three or four good looking accounts.

In two years you would have hero accounts.

In three or four years you have legendary accounts .

You then can do some nice rip offs.  Yeah it would be long but if done correctly a lot could be stolen.

I escrow . I have a legendary account I have escrowed 50k in usd.


I think there is a fear of someone doing a long con with the old system.

All the senior guys now have a long delay to be a hero so maybe they will be stopped from scamming.

If 1 in 20 seniors are looking to reach hero to scam they will be slowed a lot.

While I agree with you, I also think default merit should be given in a better way...proportionally to days/posts maybe....
this way someone who just got Full member status and me, few days before reaching Senior member, got same starting merit points,
so I'm actually slowed down lot more
legendary
Activity: 4102
Merit: 7765
'The right to privacy matters'
If threads like this are required, doesn’t that mean that the merit system is kinda broken?

I don’t mean that the merit system is bad, it’s good in the sense that it encourages useleful posts. But the merit sources seems to be a little too strict as to the criteria in which merits are given.

Your thoughts?

The old system had flaws .

Post a few times a week and make rank.

Have multiple accounts create a few threads and in a year. Of posting to yourself and your alts you can have three or four good looking accounts.

In two years you would have hero accounts.

In three or four years you have legendary accounts .

You then can do some nice rip offs.  Yeah it would be long but if done correctly a lot could be stolen.

I escrow . I have a legendary account I have escrowed 50k in usd.


I think there is a fear of someone doing a long con with the old system.

All the senior guys now have a long delay to be a hero so maybe they will be stopped from scamming.

If 1 in 20 seniors are looking to reach hero to scam they will be slowed a lot.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1123
If threads like this are required, doesn’t that mean that the merit system is kinda broken?

I don’t mean that the merit system is bad, it’s good in the sense that it encourages useleful posts. But the merit sources seems to be a little too strict as to the criteria in which merits are given.

Your thoughts?

No. It does not mean that it is "kinda broken"; it means that it has just been implemented and everyone is figuring out the best way(s) to distribute merit to every section and sub-section of this forum without being too liberal or strict about it. There are 57 merit sources and millions of members; they will not get to you all. There are more sources being added constantly, and specifically in an attempt to target the sub-communities that don't get enough attention or merit.

How does a user giving out merit points in a thread to users that deserve it prove the merit system is broken?

Merit is meant to be hard to achieve, otherwise it would be meaningless.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
If threads like this are required, doesn’t that mean that the merit system is kinda broken?

I don’t mean that the merit system is bad, it’s good in the sense that it encourages useleful posts. But the merit sources seems to be a little too strict as to the criteria in which merits are given.

Your thoughts?
sr. member
Activity: 2422
Merit: 318
Bump.

So far I gave a merit point away.  I will give away 24 more.

I'm afraid I don't understand how this works, but good luck anyway Cheesy

And it sucks that merit system came into play like a week before I leveled to Senior member, lol
member
Activity: 392
Merit: 10
DeepOnion, a new dream.
I think this thread should be placed on off-topic as there has no perfect thread for this giveaway. However, I have seen one giveaway thread here on this board- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0
legendary
Activity: 4102
Merit: 7765
'The right to privacy matters'
Bump.

So far I gave a merit point away.  I will give away 24 more.
legendary
Activity: 4102
Merit: 7765
'The right to privacy matters'
Bump  looking for an answer  as to where to place this thread.

Fwiw, I feel like the altcoin mining community is somewhat distinct from the rest of the altcoin section (edit - so I would keep it in the altcoin mining sectoin). From what I see, many here don't necessarily care much about the specific coin they're mining, only that it gets them the best return (lately people talk more about $, but I think a lot of altcoin miners are doing it to trade them for btc - I fall in that camp).

In my case  I can fully control my power cost.  up to 13-15kwatts 24/7/365   Due to the solar array deal I have with forum member buysolar .

 So I am in gpu camp more then asic camp Simply due to long  warranties with good service.

which in turn  means more altcoin then  BTC.

I have a ratio of

coins to asic gear to gpus to cash to debt to power cap to heat cap to sales of gear

  that I juggle to earn profit.  
full member
Activity: 209
Merit: 100
Bump  looking for an answer  as to where to place this thread.

Fwiw, I feel like the altcoin mining community is somewhat distinct from the rest of the altcoin section (edit - so I would keep it in the altcoin mining sectoin). From what I see, many here don't necessarily care much about the specific coin they're mining, only that it gets them the best return (lately people talk more about $, but I think a lot of altcoin miners are doing it to trade them for btc - I fall in that camp).
legendary
Activity: 4102
Merit: 7765
'The right to privacy matters'
Bump  looking for an answer  as to where to place this thread.


@ Alyeska

 I gave you 1 point for your hotel mining comment

This is the first point given out

I will 25  in total

so there are 24 left.
jr. member
Activity: 50
Merit: 1
This is interesting, feel free to check my post history, and ask me alt coin questions, you are an extremely well respected member of the alt coin mining community, and you have helped many of us, (myself included) to understand this new paradigm, good luck on this new endeavor!
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