Topic: Merit source application by Daniel91 (Read 1239 times)

I just got message from theymos that I'm new merit source!
I'm really grateful for all your suport here, and I promise to continue my mission to support new members on local croatian section to rank up on this forum, by giving merits for good quality posts.
Thank you guys, I really appreciate all your kind words and support here.
You are the best!

I will lock topic now since my applicatio for merit source is accepted, so there is no reason to continue discussion here.

Ok but if this is the case he could add some new ones dont you agree. Think that every Local section should have more then just one. Ok for the small ones with less then 50 pages if there is some but for some its not so good.



On this think that it should be with at least some simple answer or at least some new topic in meta with 3, 5, 7 or more candidates for new merit sources and we could have some sort of voting on this topic and believe we could think or consider about this.

Daniel91 as member of this forum deserve this.

I'm not complaining on admin's right to choose new merit sources when and how they want. I'm just surprised that there is no official answer for months. A simple "Yes", "No", or "Not now, submit you application in two months" would be enough.

Yeah, but Theymos added a bunch of new merit sources in September, some of whom (like me) didn't even apply.  I'm not sure if he's even looking at applications right now or what the deal is as far as adding more sources.  I think we do need some more, especially on the local boards but that's up to Theymos.

I don't quite agree with you there.  I think there would be much less merit-begging attempts in Meta if there were more merit sources  in the local sections, but I honestly don't know how good the coverage is there since it isn't quite clear who all the merit sources are.

Any update on this? Daniel91 applied over a month ago. It would be nice to see some feedback from admins.

Merit is being distributed properly. If you take a look at the ranked up members, you will learn.
Those who are not good at English, the forum has local boards too. Afaik, we doo have some merit sources from various local section and they are active in the local boards too. So, people who are not good at English can post on their respective local board. I do think they will get merit if they become active and post quality content in local.

It is a good thing to add more merit source because we had needed it also because the merit is not being distribtued properly as there is something a littlr bit problem with it for now. I mean the focus of awarding the merit is not yet that good or establish. Probably only those users who had a good English skill can get merit and those probably will be awarded in this section. Yet, I doubt also that theymos will consider adding merit source on local boards for the users there can cheat on giving merit especially if the merit source is not a trusted one.

For what it's worth I can also add my assurances regarding Daniel91 distribution of Merit at Croatian local board. He is giving merit to only for good posts (I intentionally wrote good not excellent). And he is usually awarding them with only 1 merit each. This way he actually helps a lot of junior members to get some merit for good, contributing posts and that members doesn't feel pressured to write over elaborate/long/repetitive posts in order to get some extra attention (merit). I believe he helped to make a Croatian board a better place with his service and would love to see him as one of merit sources.

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You can exchange admins with theymos. And he will not answer. If Daniel gets accepted he will receive a notice, the rest of us will not know if he doesen't share the news with us. I am expecting quite a long wait since theymos recently added new merit sources. He will probably give it few months before next batch gets promoted/demoted.

I know, I know, patience is a virtue, but I'm just curious and need to ask Will admins announce their decision even if it's negative, or will just leave thread without answer? Daniel91 really deserve do become merit source.

As someone who frequents the Croatian board on a regular basis, I can vouch for Daniel given that he has made a real effort to distribute merits to all users who enriched the forum with their quality posts, regardless of seniority, join date or personal connections - just pure post quality.


If there's anybody who deserves to become a merit sourcer, it is Daniel in my opinion. 

Well, in my view it is an advantage as far as his application goes, since it shows he's willing to distribute merits--especially on the local boards where I think merit sources are badly needed.  You don't want a merit source who's going to be stingy with his sMerits, right?

And you are correct about this.  Unfortunately I have no way of judging whether the posts he merited were of high quality or not, since I don't speak the language(s) on the boards he frequents.  As long as he's not giving merits for shitposts and doesn't look like he's sending merits to buddies or selling them, that's also to his advantage.

As I said, it might be a while before Theymos decides to add more merit sources, but I do hope he does anoint some members who give out merits on boards that are "underserved" (for lack of a better term).

The fact that the OP has handed out that number of merits to users in some local(croatian)board doesn't qualify him for the post of a merit source,neither does it disqualify him though(also)

The most important thing is the quality of the posts being merited
And also scrutinizing the ten posts gathered by the OP to make sure they are merit worthy posts..

Your reputation on the forum as well as positive ratings and rank play a part or two also

OP has given over 100 merits to members in the Croatian forum in the last few months. He deserves a chance to become an official merit source.
Good luck Daniel.

Thank you very much guys for your kind words and encouragement.
I'm really overwhelmed and grateful for such great support and promise that I will continue to help and support you on this forum as much as I can, doesn't matter if I will become merit source or not.
I know that for some of you is difficult to get merit on this forum because your English is not good enough and you don't feel confident to post in English sections of the forum.
I will continue to rewards your efforts to write good quality posts in the local section until the end.
When I spend all my merits I hope that someone else will continue my mission.


 

ROFL

That having been said; I too think Daniel91 would be a great addition to BCT as a merit sourcer, especially having seen his work in the local Croatian section...

Yes, that's it--thank you.  I have my own custom trust list, so TMAN doesn't show up as tagged in red anyway.

You're probably right, but when someone is applying to be a merit source--which has the potential for abuse--I think it's appropriate to have a discussion about how trusted the applicant is.  Now I don't know all the details of what went on between you and iluvbitcoins, but you've both presented your arguments, and I don't think the issue should be enough to disqualify you from being a merit source.  That's just my opinion, however, and as I said previously it doesn't come down to a vote when merit sources get selected.  Hell, Theymos made me one when not only did I not apply to be a merit source but stated multiple times that I did not want to be one.

And I'll reiterate that I'm not sure when Theymos is going to start looking for new merit sources again.  It might be a while, so be patient.

Daniel91 has already done a great job in our local Croatian board, I am grateful
Wish him all the best with this application, cause I believe that becoming a merit sourcer, users from our local board will be rewarded for their hard work on this forum, helping newbies and other users solving daily issues
Our local board deserves this

Best regards

What could YOU possibly forgive me?
What have I done that has in any way harmed you??

You’re not going to ask for a refund from me! HA!
A refund for what??

I was sending money, not receiving it!
What the hell are you even talking about?

Daniel91 definitely deserves to become a Merit source. In the past few months he has proven that he cares about the local community. Yes, he had some issues with iluvbitcoins in the past, but if we start digging in everyone's past, it would be very hard to find anyone without issues.

I just removed negative trust from iluvbitcoins and gave him positive trust.
I don't have desire any more to continue conflict with iluvbitcoins.
I wish him all the best in his life and business.
I'm sorry that our common business project in the past failed but it's time to leave past behind and move on with life.

Thank you very much for your kind words.
I just felt that this new members need help and support and I did it, in the best way I could.
If I become merit source, I will continue to help and support them by rewarding quality posts on this forum.
Regarding issue with iluvbitcoins I don't hate him or want to harm him.
He helped me a lot in the past and I'm grateful for everything.
I had to explain my position here and I'm sorry that he feel dissatisfied.
It was tragic business story for all of us. We all lost a lot money and time in our former business.
It's nothing we can do it about it now or change it.
It's nature of any business.
Some businesses prosper and some don't.
I already said in this topic that I forgive iluvbitcoins, that I don't ask any refund from him and I believe that soon or later we will meet somewhere and laugh about this story one day. 

With his topic "Merits for quality posts" in the Croatian subforum Daniel has already been an unofficial merit source to the local community for months. He deserves a chance to be an official merit source as well.
His topic has and is still helping members who post quality posts to get some merits that otherwise they wouldn't get. Especially the lower ranks get the needed incentives when they see members like Daniel around because they know they have an unselfish person who is close and ready to award those that deserve to be awarded and doesn't expect anything in return.

Regarding the issue with iluvbitcoins. I am sorry things went down the way they did. I certainly dont have the right to meddle since it is a personal issue with the two of you. I do hope though that you can get together and find a gentleman's agreement and resolve the conflict in a peaceful way with a few beers and tequila shots. Good luck to the both of you and I hope Daniel becomes an Official Merit Source.

Daniel91 has been a shining example of a quality member of this forum. I have a good knowledge of English, but prefer my local forum as many posts are of high quality and valuable advice. I think that Daniel91 is one of the reasons why the quality of the local board is increasing and with his help he has made it an undoubtedly better place. If anyone should be a merit source, it is him.

I'm not interested in UK ltd laws.

You took money from 3 people you kicked out without reimbursement.
You used their money to purchase something.
You never intended to give them dividends if the product makes money.
2 new people PAID to get in, and you still didn't reimburse the old investors.

That's a scam no matter how the law defines it.

And the new guys got out because they realized DD was unstable  
The money though, where did it go o.o

It would be best for you to stop wasting my time because this is an argument you can't win.
All you can achieve is get on my nerves so hard that I actually dig up the group screenshots and make a scam accusation against you.

I suggest you to control your emotions and to ask legal advice from the lawyers and company house office.
We did everything (all legal decisions) according to the legal advice received in the UK.
I send you info that we started company dissolution process.
You had 3 months to file an official complaint to the Company house and stop company dissolution but you didn't send any complain.
It's all I can say here.
I don't think that others are interesting in discussion about laws in UK for ltd companies, so I suggest you not to waste their and our time any more.

How come you used company #1 script in company #2 then?


Are you high?

Only one more post and I will stop this useless discussion here.
According to the law, all property belongs to the company, not individuals.
All money invested also belong to the company and majority of the owners decide how to use it or spend it.
All decisions was made after we got legal advice from the authorities.
All decisions was confirmed by the authorities.
At this point, I just wanted to explain whole situation to the public.
All other matters I don't care, really.
I'm here because I want to help others and it's all.
You started this subject and I felt that public had to hear what really happened.
Still, I don't have anything against you and will not ask you to refund money spend for the trip to UK.
I forgive you everything.


p.s. also your negative trust is visible now but you gave it a few years ago, as I remember.
I don't care about trust or anything else but care about real facts and truth.

All you care about is that you don't get in trouble?

Step 1 - Take money from investors to buy something online
Step 2 - Dissolve the company
Step 3 - Start a new company
Step 4 - Use the item you bought with their money
Step 5 -
Step 6 - Profit

I did contact a lawyer about it, but I deemed it to be a waste of my time since the project was a ticking time bomb already.
And it did self-destruct as I warned you.

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On a side note, I was considering removing the feedback in 3 months or so, to teach you a lesson but you have showed 0 remorse for what you have done! 0.
You have written false statements that don't even have any relation at all with what actually happened (in the other thread), and because of that condemned yourself to that feedback forever.

I think it's time to stop this useless discussion.
Majority of the owners of the company have right to make any legal decision connected with the company and trade, according to UK trade law.
Majority of the owners of the company have right to decide also what to do with the company property.
Before all decisions was made, we asked legal advice from the UK accounting company and they confirmed everything.
Also, Company house confirmed that all decisions was legal and accepted our request to dissolve the company.
All co owners, not content with the decision from the majority could file an official complaint to the Company house and in such case, they will check and decide if our legal decisions was made according to the law.
Also, if anything illegal, they will not dissolve company.
iluvbitcoins never filed an official complaint to the Company house about any decision made by the majority of the company owners.
With this, I think that legally everything is clear here.

I don't think Daniel is a serial scammer.

But he wanted to kick out the 'rebels' and voted to form a new company and use the script the previous shareholders paid for.

I think you are looking for [TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits
From this list, TMAN is the only merit source with negative trust from DT. Some others negative tagged members are also there but OP didn't confirm those user as merit source.

No, I don't think all the merit sources are known, but many have been "outed" based on the math of their merit-giving history.  There's a thread in Meta (I just searched for it and couldn't find it, as I forgot the title) where many merit sources were identified--and I know who some of them are and the ones I'm aware of don't have red trust from DT members. 

Then again, I have a custom trust list so it's kind of hard for me to say that with certainty since I don't even know who's on DT anymore.  I only became aware of iluvbitcoins getting on DT because someone made me aware of my own trust getting a color change due to the neg he left on me--which has since been amicably resolved, I might add.

Glad you chimed in on this and explained your side of the story.  It doesn't sound like Daniel91 is some sort of serial scammer, though the question is whether Theymos would consider the stain on his bitcointalk reputation as grounds for denying his merit source application.  In this case, I tend to think it would be worth giving him a shot at being a merit source especially since he can merit some local board posts.  The great thing about the merit system is that it's all public, so if any shenanigans take place, it's caught pretty quickly.

Everything I wanted to say about this subject is here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/negative-trust-2833560
So, nothing more to say really.
I don't think anybody is interesting in this any more, it's old, ancient history now, without any connection with activity on this forum or crypto.
Any way, I'm still grateful to you that you introduced me to the bitcoin and this forum.
We had great fun together and shared a lot things.
At that time we had dreams how to change the world and our lives.
Because of your hot temper you had a lot problems with other co owners in our business project, specially the creator
I tried to protect you as much as I could.
I'm sorry that our business didn't succeed but it's life.
I wish you well in your life and still hope that once we will enjoy pizza at bosso
I forgive you everything. 

We paid for a script (1000$), after 4 of us weren't happy with where the company was going and wanted changes, Daniel91 together with 5 other investors dissolved the company (50%+1 votes [6/10]).

After the dissolvment they formed a new company and wanted to use the script we paid for.

Although this was pushed by another person, Daniel91 was a very intense advocate of his actions and supported them throughoutly.

Although the website never came to fruition, the intention was to use the same script that was purchased with the money of other investors.

And also, you weren't 'naive' to tell me your account name because I told you about bitcointalk and then you signed up  

I could write a lot more about this, but since it's off-topic, I'll just leave it at this.

Thank you very much guys!
I'm overwhelmed with your support here, inspiration and encouragement.
I promise you that I will continue to support you on this forum, in any possible way.
I will always use my merits to support good quality posts in non English languages, because such forum members are often invisible for English speaking members here and have difficulties to get deserved award for their contribution on the forum.
Since I almost spend all my merits as legendary member, only way to continue my mission is to become merit source.

Regarding negative trust from iluvbitcoins, I can say following:
It's a pure act of revenge and nothing else.
1. We participated together in one common business project which failed. It's long story but basically all investors lost money there, including me.
2. It happened 3-4 years ago.
3. Company also dissolved 2 years ago.
3. No connection with bitcoin.
4. We never finished project so we never used any script in public.
4. No trading of any kind.
5. No connection with any activity on this forum or crypto.


Obviously, it's nothing I can do it about it.
Some people on the forum suggested me to start a thread about it but I feel it will be useless and just waste of my time and energy.
I will rather focus my time to help and support others, as much as I can.
I was just naive in the beginning and shared with this person that I will open account on this forum (and my nickname) so because of this he know my real name.
I could simple close this btc account and start new one but felt that in such way I will confess some kind of guilt and allow the injustice to win what I did not want.
It's all I can say about this subject.

Believe that we need him with high words. I also believe that local community need one good and quality merit sourcer that can be good for community. He made very good contributions to must say Balkan community cuz there are not just Croatian native language speakers but as well as all former republic. Whit this all together please consider this cuz it can be very good for not just local community section but as well all all othes where merit is most given.

Hopefully his apply will pass and he will become merit sources and maybe we will have after that another user who will aply to be merit sourcer.

I don't think there is any public list of merit sources, and maybe it is better so to avoid unnecessary pressure to them.

As far as Daniel91 application goes I support him because in 1 year now of me being member of this forum, Daniel91 was nothing but helpful specially to new users.

He also had very popular topic on local section "Merit for quality posts" where he merited high quality articles until he spent all his merit.

That being said I fully support his application to be merit source.

I don't think there is any red trusted merit source, I am not sure because we don't know all the merit source. Correct me if I am wrong. As far as I know previous applicant wasn't with red tag those application approved. After be a merit source if someone get red tag that's different case. But form begain of application if someone have red tag, I believe it will prevent him from become merit source. OP should convince iluvbitcoins to remove red tag. I don't think theymos going to consider it if applicant's is untrusted by default trust. It's just my opinion, who know about admin mind.


However I always welcome new merit source  application, so same for OP also. Best of luck with your application.

Hi, I'm from local board as well. My English is decent but I prefer local boards and have found my place within this one.

We are not an especially large community but I feel the quality of posts there is really good. Daniel91 has helped many new members settle in and get their first merits (for quality posts, I must add), and it feels good to be rewarded for writing quality content. I know he deserves the role, I just hope the person deciding will think that as well. It is really hard to progress on local boards without merit sources and Daniel91 is a prime example of how a merit source should behave.

I would like to emphasize one think that Daniel91 mentioned in the first post. Part of the title of the topic he started in the local board is "...merits for quality posts". And he really mean it. I believe he did a great job and deserves to become a Merit source.

I just wanna say that Daniel91 is doing great job in giving Merits for the local Croatian community. I don't read other local borads (because I speak only Croatian and English), but the Croatian local board is full of very good posts that would never get Merit if it weren't for Daniel91.

Unfortunately, the number of his sMerits is running low and he won't be able to Meirt posts in Croatian language. I really hope he will become a Merit sourcer because our community really needs it.

I don't know exactly what Theymos has for criteria as far as merit source selection goes, but I'm assuming negative trust from a DT member doesn't factor into it?  I can't think of all the known merit sources I'm aware of and whether they're generally trusted.  I'm only bringing this up because Daniel91 has a neg from iluvbitcoins.

But I'll tell ya, I fully support more merit sources who tend to frequent the local boards--I think some very well-though out posts might not have earned merit because they were written by people not expressing their ideas in their native tongue.  Not that my opinion matters here or that it comes down to a community vote anyway, but I'd be cool with giving this guy (Daniel91) a shot.

On the other hand, after Theymos added those 36 new merit sources in September, I'm not sure if he's looking at new applications right now--but it's better to create the application thread and post it.  Whether Theymos sees it/considers it or not, you can always bump it in the future. 

Good luck to you, bro.

1. Not on high priority, but you should make your thread more neat.
2. You might want check other member's application as inspiration.
3. IMO You should add short-info/comment on quoted posts with non-english language.

Good luck with your merit source application

OK, according to your suggestion, I replaced also last post with new one.
I hope now is ok.
If anything else please let me know.

OK thank you for your suggestion.
I just removed second post and replaced with other post.
Sorry, my mistake guys.

If ANN thread can receive lots of merit, why not bounty threads 
DeepOnion ANN
Viacoin
BYTEBALL
HoweyCoin----Deserve to be merited
And more here- Most merited topics (SUM of OP + posts) (Fixed!)

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@OP, good luck with your application. I think you should remove the 2nd post, although it depends on you.

OK, here are 2 more posts.
I hope it's fine now.
If needed, I can add more posts.
Please let me know.

Second post is bounty thread and last one is blatant plagiarism (source: https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-best-altcoins-to-invest-in-2019).

You are 2 posts short  

Good luck for your application, but don't you think a bounty should not be on your list for "deserve more merits"?

Hi, it is better to use quotes. I was told that when I applied and I followed the advice, otherwise it looks too messy. Also, could you throw a couple of lines explaining why you think they deserve (more) merit? I'm especially curious about the bounty one, and the ones in your language people won't understand.