Topic: Merit System hits me hard. (Read 992 times)

what is the relevance of merit system to ranking system? I tthought that only posting in the threads could help you rank up your account. Well if its for the good of this system then it should be implemented. I wonder how to get a merit system. This could be hard for the newbie like me. In fact I am already intimidated with merit system. I could not bare this to my mind that it is so obvious that geeting merit points would be so hard. And the possibilities also that those establish account had greater chance to get the merit system since they know already how the bitcoin system works. Meaning to say that they are more knowledgable and could hit the ideas of the threads to be posted.

That's that catch if this newly implemented merit system. Unlucky for some who are nearly to rank up to next level. However, this merit system really needs to be implemented to clean up and prevent this forum from being filled with useless posts.

Lol, but this forum was gift for legendaries  who did shit posts and today you should kiss in ass them for give you merits! If you will try to saying them something then you will be trust marked

Got your opinion bro, im not that greedy it just that I expected so much that ill become a sr member but that expectation leads to disappointment. and about that why i am anticipating for high pay lately is because i really need some money to fund my thesis project in school.-
Yup there are somepeople does it in a negative way, perfect example: shitposters, spammers, and especially account farmers.
but i know with this system it can lessen the one who pollutes this forum.

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I already moved on bro, and it is time for us to be more productive and be more informative for others to learn for us like how we learn in the experts here in bitcointalk community.

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just want to add something on my thread, I want to conclude something.

why i am sad in the past because i really expected to rank up since im so close to it and yet it didnt happened, expectation leads to disappointment. (But im okay now and back to normal)
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why i am seeking to rank?
Because to be able to receive high pay for bounties to fund my school needs and thesis.
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To everyone who shared thoughts in this thread thank you for your time and opinions it made me recover faster from disappointment.

It's a matter of all members with rankings below Sr. Member. Basically, this is not profitable for us, but it's also a nice change, if we just stay in the bounty section, we never get the reward for getting ranked, we have to learn something, contribute to this forum. Because, this forum not only has a part of the gift. There are many things that need to be learned in this forum. You can go to Altcoins, a Bitcoin discussion or a trading section to learn more, this is very useful. in the same state at the moment and I'm pretty sure Merit will not solve the problem they want to solve.

You have a mistake my friend.There are low ranked that like it (alt accounts of high ranked)

Oh bro!!I am able to understand your sorrows. Because,I was also expecting for my activity to increase so that my ranks up.Ranks up means high pays in bounties!!Well said.I loved your equation. But it's true.

I think merit system is a brilliant step.It can prevent unnecessary and shitposting.There are some people who does unexpected and such posts which are not related to the topic. They post on to increase their activity so that they can be ranked up and earn more and more bitcoin.You can tell this was injustice and we were lagging behind for them.But as the merit system comes,those persons cannot be ranked up so easily that they did before.They have to contribute to the forum and their posts cannot be worthless. If so,they won't be ranked up.

But for you,me and other like us have to suffer a little but I think if we can increase our post quality,we won't have to suffer anymore....

This makes me think that you are greedy. No offence though.


But I do understand because it gets harder and harder to earn bitcoins nowadays.
And I do believe that payments keep people and users attach to the forum but some does it in a negative way.

Well, I find it not necessary to bring this up for people who's  intention is for the development of the forum as well as bitcoin.
Suggesting that we should just be contented of what we are earning now and we will be still here in the future.

Well it easy for newbies here to rank up and earn the merit they deserve for the next ranks just by making an effort on each post and replies they make. I think the merit system is a good way for people to stop going on this forum just to earn money rather than sharing information about what happening each cryptos they held and about to buy. But I agree with you that this merit system won't me a long term solution since selling merit can be an choice for those greedy bastards.
Exactly this thing happened to all members especially those low ranks such as Full Member below. Anyway, since you are new here maybe try to make your English better because it's "Lose" not "Loose". I hope this is just a typographical error since there are a lot of DT out there that are strict about these stuffs.

This happened to all the members I guess and thus all are on same boat. I am new here so I think I got nothing to loose here. Hoping to reach desired merit points to reach next level.

Yea but how many give honor/commend? I mean, personally, I don't care too much as I am already high rank but it does seem a bit hard on newbies if they are genuinely trying to rank up. I always said the solution was to make all signature campaigns have a stricter manager, there were plenty of strict campaigns that had little to zero spammers. Now although it's going to be harder to rank up, people are still going to spam and post the same stupid shit, all the accounts that were already high rank are still high rank. I don't see it as a long term solution. Not to mention the possibility of selling merits.

Well ofcourse bro being negative wont get us anywhere, it will just cause pain in the head which is a stressful one. Making thesis and constant researching is a serious work and stressful so i dont want to add more stress in my mind. Goodluck on your thesis too!

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I almost misread the reply of The Pharmacist, i thought it was pertaining to me good thing i re-read the quote.
But for someone who whats to ask why Ranking up is important to me right now because

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This system is still in early stage wait for it to be introduced more in the future before we give regards about it. but im postive that it wont end up like the league of legends kind of thing.
Maybe if you play dota2 tho, commending someone is not mandatory yet there are still people who commend others for playing good, and here in forum Merit-ing someone is not mandatory but others give merit to those who post informative and constructive topics and/or relevant to the topic.
(want to use game as reference too for you)

I don't know if it's really going to work out very well. Sure it will slow down people trying to farm accounts but how slow is it gonna be? League of legends, a videogame, introduced a system that was almost like this called honor and at first people did give honor to players however after a while it became irrelevant and people didn't give honor anymore, they were forced to almost force you to give honor prompting a screen after each game to give honor. What I'm saying is that eventually less and less people are going to give merit unless you are forced to.

I guess you had and we all had to register way back and to be active to be able to be high ranks now. It ain't fair in a sense that everything is harder now, but this is the fact we have to face if you want to participate in the forum. I don't know either if spamming will change, we might see less of it. Who knows maybe those on top simply want to make it harder to climb the rank ladder due to many new accounts ranking. I guess we have to follow the rules there is not much that we can do about it. Yeah it sucks to be near next rank and this hits you in your face.

Even now sometimes when you put much effort in your post it could get unnoticed if people don't read it or even if they wanted to award you with merit, they don't have sMerit to give.

You still have your account creation date and activity which can show to others how long are you involved here on forum tho


There is nothing bad with earning money while you are contributing here on forum. Why not when you have that option. Marketing is where the money is. Even if you look without signatures forum itself have adds to be able to sustain and pay for mods/server hosting etc. There's nothing bad being involved in marketing. The problem now is you have to post more frequently with every post being the best it can be and hope that somebody will notice and give you merit if your goal is to reach higher ranks, this can be time consuming by its own. On the other hand signature campaigns could give you motivation to hang around this forum for some people.

And I would ask why it's so important for you to rank up, and why it's so disappointing to you that you didn't just yet.

It might not feel comfortable for a lot of people having to wait until they get enough merit points to rank up, but that's exactly how this system is supposed to work.  It's supposed to slow the process down so that people won't be able to farm 1000 accounts in a specified period of time.  Introducing a quality factor here is fucking brilliant.  Yeah it might be annoying to a certain class of farmer/shitposters, but you can cry me a river on that one.  If your posts are such that you're waiting forever to get those merit points, you likely didn't deserve to rank up anyway. 

Just want to share my feelings about merit system here, just a few days before I am supposed to rank up as Member is the time the merit system was introduced. I feel really disappointed because my rank will be screwed as Jr Member until some members will merit me. It seems so impossible to get a meit from high ranked members because they are not obliged to do it. But I will not say I am against with it because I totally understand why they are doing this. But I hope it not be unfair to the new comers who are religiously posting constructive, informative, and no fouls words in the forum.

Campaigns are about promotion. Social media marketing is massive. Infact marketing is where most of the money goes from companies. Not paying salaries, not paying for research or equipment or rent or any of those things, most money is spent on advertising. Campaigns are advertising. You say the campaigns won't be around forever. So you saying marketing will just disappear and noone will ever need it? Please explain to me exactly how any company can go without marketing? I would love to know.

Glad to see a newbie giving more importance to forum quality than his rank.

for me a beginner merit system really makes me sad, but no problem for the forum progress

Well it is hard to earn it because we are at the early stage of the merit point system. What you said is true that merit point is limited, but the circulatory amount of it will be increased in a fast rate. How come so? Let me break it for you.
If 'merit sources' can make maximum 200 smerit point out of nothing (I don't know the exact number of how many points a 'source' can make per month), then that 200 point can be used up to 397-398 point (200+100+25+12+6+3+1=397 points) and if we have  40 'merit sources' then it will be up to 16000 points of smerit to distribute to other members. It is only from 'merit sources', all member with high rank has smerit that can be given too even thought it wont be replenished per month basis like 'merit sources' do, and if the maximum number of smerit from 'sources' is increased, we can see even higher number to be distributed among all the worthy posters.