Topic: 'Merit' System is a SLAP to the term 'Decentralisation' - page 3. (Read 927 times)
I was not bothered about merits but when I saw this post, it got me thinking a little. And why consider it a slap and say you are at the mercy of your mate just because of merits? I think its an option or a choice left to everyone. Why would you give a price or reward on something you think you dont like giving. Now if you are really after for more merits, maybe try to be more relevant or interesting to people reading. But again its your choice if you will rely what the others think of your posts.
It's very interesting to see most of the members praising this so called 'Merit' systems are the users who already got lot of 'Merit's by default. They did NOT have to earn it like all new users will have to now!! Because you guys already got the merits by default ( as per your current rank) it's easy for you to praise this crap system!!
It's also pretty interesting to see how all the shitposters are starting to rise and come to the meta to complain about this "crap" system. I see this as a good way for people to start posting constructively, at least and not just spam for the sake of farming accounts.I can guarantee most of the users who are blindly praising this crap system would not praise if they did not get the merit by default!! if for some reasons this 'merit' system is abolished then these same members will start praising that decision also...
Anyway, let's see how long this crappy merit 'system' can last long..
No shit sherlock. Those who genuinely care about the wellbeing of the forum is obviously praising the merit system. If you can, go on and suggest a better system to eliminate those spammers. The merit system doesn't necessarily make it impossible for people to rank up, I personally would merit someone if I find that their post is genuinely useful and not just something that has been repeated thousands of times. Anyway, let's see how long this crappy merit 'system' can last long..
It's very interesting to see most of the members praising this so called 'Merit' systems are the users who already got lot of 'Merit's by default. They did NOT have to earn it like all new users will have to now!! Because you guys already got the merits by default ( as per your current rank) it's easy for you to praise this crap system!!
I can guarantee most of the users who are blindly praising this crap system would not praise if they did not get the merit by default!! if for some reasons this 'merit' system is abolished then these same members will start praising that decision also...
Anyway, let's see how long this crappy merit 'system' can last long..
I can guarantee most of the users who are blindly praising this crap system would not praise if they did not get the merit by default!! if for some reasons this 'merit' system is abolished then these same members will start praising that decision also...
Anyway, let's see how long this crappy merit 'system' can last long..
This is a centralized, privately owned, forum. If you do not like it here, you are most welcome to go somewhere else. However, the new merit system is not centralized in my opinion since anyone can give everyone merit. Yes, there is one central source of authority (theymos), but someone, somewhere has to start the chain.
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First of all, this is just my Opinion. I think this new 'merit' system is just a new policy same as the capitalist government/bankers do in the name of quality, security bla bla.
Its not a policy at all, its the mandatory protocol which you should follow or otherwise you yourself will get slapped in the long wrong and you will be the one responsible for that.
Please! Its not just in the name of quality, its about the self-improvement and self-establishment in the forum itself. If you do your job best you get recognised surely and if you don't then there is another slap waiting for you!
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Now my rank in the forum depends on others! If some one thinks my post is merit worthy then they will give me merit. My rank now has to look for the mercy of others! absolutely Crap idea.
Its called as mutual growth and not the mercy my mate! You have no idea how crap you are thinking about the system itself, and you yourself making it corrupted. If you keep thinking like this then believe me you are out of merit.
There is thing called "self-awarness", if you know what are you thinking then you can achieve it in easy way.
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Whats happens if a post is good and still no one gives merit?? I am sure this what will happens. I believe many of users here do not bother about giving merit etc. They come here to learn, share information.
No mate that will work perfectly!
I am sure people will start meriting each other once they find themselves behind the race of quality poster and when they won't be able to get into different campaigns, reward programs just because of their Low Merit!
They do come here for sharing info, but if its shit info then its useless anyway.
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Yes there are spam posters, but you can't impose such as bad system as 'merit' to tackle the spam! This forum is about cryptocurrency whose main characteristic is 'decentralisation' . But this new 'Merit' system is a 'centralised' system which depends on the mercy of others and that is a BIG SLAP to the face of 'Decentralisation' 
Um, wait I can choose whom to give the merits?
Oh! Perfect that is decentralised system, I can control my merits publicly and so do they can :-)
These merits are shareable but some of the DTs are giving redtrusts because of another abuse created by the new merit system.
how are you going to rank up?if someone intended to give you a lot of merits,would it be called abuse?for example i have 10 hero accounts and i want you to get red trust i can simply give you 50merits at once and report you to these DTs,isnt that funny?
how are you going to rank up?if someone intended to give you a lot of merits,would it be called abuse?for example i have 10 hero accounts and i want you to get red trust i can simply give you 50merits at once and report you to these DTs,isnt that funny?
I suppose you are referring to this thread? -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-users-that-are-abusing-merit-system-2823221
What I see there is not a simple giving a lot of merits resulted in neg-trust, but about whether giving a lot of merits is understandable or not.
It is not about the number of merits that has been sent to some users, but to what post that merit is sent.
Do you think it is believable if a post like "good project", "joining you" and etc has 1 merit on them?
If you said no, I guess you can understand why DT users are tagging those users with neg-trust because their abuse on the merit system is quite clear.
First of all, this is just my Opinion. I think this new 'merit' system is just a new policy same as the capitalist government/bankers do in the name of quality, security bla bla.
You can always leave or find another forum.
Whats happens if a post is good and still no one gives merit?? I am sure this what will happens. I believe many of users here do not bother about giving merit etc. They come here to learn, share information.
Keep making quality contributions and you'll likely get noticed. It may not be easy or quick to get there but that's partly the point.
Yes there are spam posters, but you can't impose such as bad system as 'merit' to tackle the spam!
What do you suggest instead?
This forum is about cryptocurrency whose main characteristic is 'decentralisation' .
No, it's about bitcoin. Or at least it was, as it has now been taken over by shitposters and crapcoins which this merit system is now trying to curb the abuse of.
But this new 'Merit' system is a 'centralised' system which depends on the mercy of others and that is a BIG SLAP to the face of 'Decentralisation'
This is not a decentralised forum, as has been stated numerous times before. I really hope someone does create a decentralised forum at some point though just to show what an absolute mess and headache it would be to use when everyone is responsible for their own moderating.
These merits are shareable but some of the DTs are giving redtrusts because of another abuse created by the new merit system.
how are you going to rank up?if someone intended to give you a lot of merits,would it be called abuse?for example i have 10 hero accounts and i want you to get red trust i can simply give you 50merits at once and report you to these DTs,isnt that funny?
how are you going to rank up?if someone intended to give you a lot of merits,would it be called abuse?for example i have 10 hero accounts and i want you to get red trust i can simply give you 50merits at once and report you to these DTs,isnt that funny?
That is a genuine concern that I saw some others raising as well and there was no answer from an authority here about it. It is very much possible and hard to spot. May be they need to check in other aspects like past interactions in accounts before giving that negative trust.
So far as the selling of merit points is concerned even if they sell they will get exhausted of Smerits very soon. These will be mainly in hands of merit sources and i hope that the admin selects them carefully.
I agree with you and plenty here already said about the forum not being decentralize which is like opposite of the ideaa we support with the cryptocurrency and its decentralization. But you have to understand that we are joining a forum with admins & moderators. We have to respect the rules and the system they implement which I agree that it's like being controlled by government. I personally do not like it and want the way it was before. But I want to be a member here and engage more in the community so i will try my best to stay and embrace the system. You actually have the option to stay and try your best to post that contributes to the community or just walk away. You do not need to be high ranked to support the idea behind cryptocurrency and you also do not need to be a member here to learn and share about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. Now if you are here to rank up I think it is just right to follow the rules no one forces as to be here. Do not worry about your merit, there's already a lot of ways on how to earn merits. Few of the high ranked members already made threads that gives chances to us to get merits and there's also contests if you just read and search you'll find there's plenty out there.
These merits are shareable but some of the DTs are giving redtrusts because of another abuse created by the new merit system.
how are you going to rank up?if someone intended to give you a lot of merits,would it be called abuse?for example i have 10 hero accounts and i want you to get red trust i can simply give you 50merits at once and report you to these DTs,isnt that funny?
how are you going to rank up?if someone intended to give you a lot of merits,would it be called abuse?for example i have 10 hero accounts and i want you to get red trust i can simply give you 50merits at once and report you to these DTs,isnt that funny?
First of all, this is just my Opinion. I think this new 'merit' system is just a new policy same as the capitalist government/bankers do in the name of quality, security bla bla.
This is how the way things work and this is not some kind of democracy. This is a forum owned privately by someone and as a member you have to follow the rules of the forum.
Now my rank in the forum depends on others! If some one thinks my post is merit worthy then they will give me merit. My rank now has to look for the mercy of others! absolutely Crap idea.
So you want your rank to depend on the number the shit posts a member makes every month. It was leading us nowhere.
Whats happens if a post is good and still no one gives merit?? I am sure this what will happens. I believe many of users here do not bother about giving merit etc. They come here to learn, share information.
Yes there are spam posters, but you can't impose such as bad system as 'merit' to tackle the spam! This forum is about cryptocurrency whose main characteristic is 'decentralisation'
Sure some quality posts might get ignored but it is not possible that if you post 50 good posts all will get ignored. If you post good quality content, there are high chnaces people will read your other posts as well.
What do you suggest in place of merit system ?
"So you want your rank to depend on the number the shit posts a member makes every month. It was leading us nowhere. "--> This is the best forum running for years and you think for all these years we didn't go any where and all on a sudden this 'merit' system is the magic key??
The issue is not about getting ignored with good posts. The issue is people don't bother to give merit. Instead they will sell merit.. Just wait and see what happens... I can tell for sure this 'merit' system is a crap, shi** system.
Now my rank in the forum depends on others! If some one thinks my post is merit worthy then they will give me merit. My rank now has to look for the mercy of others!
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But this new 'Merit' system is a 'centralised' system which depends on the mercy of others and that is a BIG SLAP to the face of 'Decentralisation'
Let's sum up the two main points you have:~snip~
But this new 'Merit' system is a 'centralised' system which depends on the mercy of others and that is a BIG SLAP to the face of 'Decentralisation'
- Your rank depends on ratings given by the general public/many other people.
- Your rank is given by a centralized source.
First of all, this is just my Opinion. I think this new 'merit' system is just a new policy same as the capitalist government/bankers do in the name of quality, security bla bla.
This is how the way things work and this is not some kind of democracy. This is a forum owned privately by someone and as a member you have to follow the rules of the forum.
Now my rank in the forum depends on others! If some one thinks my post is merit worthy then they will give me merit. My rank now has to look for the mercy of others! absolutely Crap idea.
So you want your rank to depend on the number the shit posts a member makes every month. It was leading us nowhere.
Whats happens if a post is good and still no one gives merit?? I am sure this what will happens. I believe many of users here do not bother about giving merit etc. They come here to learn, share information.
Yes there are spam posters, but you can't impose such as bad system as 'merit' to tackle the spam! This forum is about cryptocurrency whose main characteristic is 'decentralisation'
Sure some quality posts might get ignored but it is not possible that if you post 50 good posts all will get ignored. If you post good quality content, there are high chnaces people will read your other posts as well.
What do you suggest in place of merit system ?
Hello Friends,
First of all, this is just my Opinion. I think this new 'merit' system is just a new policy same as the capitalist government/bankers do in the name of quality, security bla bla.
Now my rank in the forum depends on others! If some one thinks my post is merit worthy then they will give me merit. My rank now has to look for the mercy of others! absolutely Crap idea.
Whats happens if a post is good and still no one gives merit?? I am sure this what will happens. I believe many of users here do not bother about giving merit etc. They come here to learn, share information.
Yes there are spam posters, but you can't impose such as bad system as 'merit' to tackle the spam! This forum is about cryptocurrency whose main characteristic is 'decentralisation' . But this new 'Merit' system is a 'centralised' system which depends on the mercy of others and that is a BIG SLAP to the face of 'Decentralisation'
First of all, this is just my Opinion. I think this new 'merit' system is just a new policy same as the capitalist government/bankers do in the name of quality, security bla bla.
Now my rank in the forum depends on others! If some one thinks my post is merit worthy then they will give me merit. My rank now has to look for the mercy of others! absolutely Crap idea.
Whats happens if a post is good and still no one gives merit?? I am sure this what will happens. I believe many of users here do not bother about giving merit etc. They come here to learn, share information.
Yes there are spam posters, but you can't impose such as bad system as 'merit' to tackle the spam! This forum is about cryptocurrency whose main characteristic is 'decentralisation' . But this new 'Merit' system is a 'centralised' system which depends on the mercy of others and that is a BIG SLAP to the face of 'Decentralisation'
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