Merit System Numbers too high to achieve - A Suggestion

Manalhala

newbie

Activity: 51

Merit: 0

Quote from: Tyrantt on January 28, 2018, 01:49:28 PM

It's actually not that hard and those numbers are way, way too low. You'd have to change a lot more than just those numbers because Every hero member can give out 50 and if you reduce the sMerit number monthly, you'd pretty much get the same ratio. It's still slow because it is new and people still aren't used to giving it out. Give it some time to catch on.

The new system, unfortunately, gave a powerful impetus to speculation in the sale and purchase of merits. Today more than 10 people suffered from an impudent liar, who sold Meriti. On the one hand it can be called a lesson, on the other hand many beginners, not understanding the system , simply fall into the trap of the liar. A huge negative is that these innovations, introduced just before penerangan and to many, it is not to their liking. Although its advantages are not yet clear)

Tyrantt

hero member

Activity: 1022

Merit: 564

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It's actually not that hard and those numbers are way, way too low. You'd have to change a lot more than just those numbers because Every hero member can give out 50 and if you reduce the sMerit number monthly, you'd pretty much get the same ratio. It's still slow because it is new and people still aren't used to giving it out. Give it some time to catch on.

ImHash

hero member

Activity: 924

Merit: 506

Interestingly people are posting essays in every post, Someone got 1000 merits in a single thread for repeating one thing for a million times, Of course someone with the ability to post high quality, Would keep doing it, Just like a doctor would keep doing what he can do best, Now you want everyone to be or act like a doctor Cheesy

DAOfan

member

Activity: 126

Merit: 10

Quote from: hilariousetc on January 27, 2018, 09:52:12 AM

Quote from: cho99 on January 27, 2018, 09:27:33 AM

I never been against the system and even if I dislike some of the points about this new merit system , I still believe that moderators are trying their best to get this forum much better than it is now , but what I'm sure about is that people will try anyway to cheat to get this Merit and rank up , and other people who really posting a high quality posts will be stuck for ever in the bottom of this forum and never get merit for what they are doing because of some folks who doesn't care about giving merit for who really deserve it

People will cheat this system just like they do feedback or ranks, but that doesn't make them useless or not important for you to achieve genuinely. It's not going to be easy to achieve ranks now but I don't think it should be and this was part of the problem of the ranking system in the first place, but if you're a quality contributor over time you'll be recognised as such and rewarded eventually.

Quote from: DAOfan on January 27, 2018, 09:38:59 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on January 25, 2018, 07:24:50 AM

If it's that easy to get points then it defeats the whole purpose of the system and it makes it much easier to farm/sell points.

The legendary crowd doesn't understand because they get (5!) fricken merit for a shitpost like this. You literally spent 10 seconds writing that post and got merited by (guess who?) other legendary members. You created an exclusive club - I'm sure that makes you feel very proud of yourself - you can just tell everyone else to F*Off if they don't like it, because you're in and they are out.

IMO people who decide to create exclusive clubs are compensating for something...

And what about all my other 'constructive' posts that I've made that got absolutely no merit at all by the so called legendary crowd? I think you shouldn't take yourself so serious. It can't have been a shitpost if people gave it merit and appreciated it, but I'm guessing they found it funny more than anything which a little humour is needed around here. If I hadn't of posted the image then I doubt it would have gotten everything at all and I think if anyone else would have made that post they would have likely got the merit regardless of rank.

I'm sorry you didn't get merit for your constructive posts, that is part of the problem. A successful strategy right now is to agree with the people who have the merit and make them laugh - exactly like pledging a frat or joining a country club. It looks to me that you got 500 merit for the 750ish posts you made. That is a great ratio! You might even be one of the few with the intelligence and humor to keep it up, maybe even exceed it.

Nevertheless, when I see posts like yours being merited so highly because of your wit and political stance, rather than because of your experience, technical knowledge or philosophical views, I feel scared and threatened that I will have to change who I am to be taken seriously on this forum. I've already read dozens of posts telling me if I didn't like it I could leave. I never saw that kind of coercion just a few weeks ago. It is frightening to new members like me to know that I am not welcome here.

Quote from: TMAN on January 27, 2018, 09:44:52 AM

Compensating for forgetting more about bitcoin than you will ever know? Compensating for being on these boards for 1000+ days? Posting, questioning, learning....

Need I say more?

Can you please point me to some technical or insightful posts you've made? I can't find any of your posts with more than 10 words, and none of them lead me to believe you know anything about bitcoin.

I do think it is strange and hilarious that you decided my comment was about you - personally -

The Sceptical Chymist

legendary

Activity: 3528

Merit: 7005

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Quote from: cho99 on January 27, 2018, 01:57:18 AM

I believe this post dose not deserve merit points but you know people always love licking ass .

What the fuck does it matter if legendaries form huge chains of merit circle-jerks or pass the merit around like a joint? They're still not gonna give it to all of you shitposters, so it shouldn't matter to you anyway! I hear people bitching about merit points being "wasted" because they're going from Vod--->hilariousandco--->Lauda--->actmyname--->etc., but this just isn't true. None of those legendary members are likely to go around rewarding some ignorant twattus with merit points for telling us all the wonderful ways we can earn bitcoin. Not gonna happen, sir.

ilpipita

newbie

Activity: 101

Merit: 0

Quote from: Shamie1002 on January 27, 2018, 09:11:35 PM

Quote from: yojodojo21 on January 25, 2018, 10:06:46 PM

I have one and a half month to be a sr.member

Merit challenge accepted.

Well I have at least a day to become a SR. Member and haven't got anything against the new system because I know it is for a greater good.
I will try to earn my merits in a good way too.
I am not rushing things though it's awesome to be a SR. Member upon waiting.

Well I am accepting the challenge too. I just hope many are reviewing posts.

Me too. Accepted new system, new rules, deposited of the fact that I am a little bit disappointed about this one. I will be a Member next week, but this new one change the game and my case too.

Shamie1002

full member

Activity: 406

Merit: 102

Quote from: yojodojo21 on January 25, 2018, 10:06:46 PM

I have one and a half month to be a sr.member

Merit challenge accepted.

Well I have at least a day to become a SR. Member and haven't got anything against the new system because I know it is for a greater good.
I will try to earn my merits in a good way too.
I am not rushing things though it's awesome to be a SR. Member upon waiting.

Well I am accepting the challenge too. I just hope many are reviewing posts.

nhathongkehoc

member

Activity: 106

Merit: 12

Quote from: lobcmt2 on January 27, 2018, 10:17:42 AM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on January 25, 2018, 07:27:41 AM

The merit system is there to encourage you to make quality posts. Contribute something positive to a topic by saying more then I agree. You can get multiple merit points for your replies if users deem it a quality post.

I want to see the numbers doubled or tripled honestly. Users have 35 weeks to start from newbie to sr member and 70 weeks to get to hero. That is plenty of time to get the merit points required in order to rank up.

All these users that troll the bitcoin discussion section, trading discussion, altcoin discussion, economy, and speculation sections are going to need to start making better posts or they'll be stuck at their current rank for a long time.

It's meant to be a little tough but not impossible.

Agree. At the start of merit system, I cannot imagine that I can get merit points from other users in the forum. By now, I have got 8 merits for my contributive posts from other generous users. I think that is the way merit system will truly work and improve our forum to be a cleaner, more knowledgeable one.

It's good to hear from your experience, even my rank is higher than you. I would like to make contributive posts and see when I collect enough merit points for upgrading to Full Member. Thanks for the merit system which highly correlated with user ranking system, which will help us to have less contributors in the future. Spammers will give up, spamming posts will decrease significantly over time, cleaner forum.

lobcmt2

full member

Activity: 462

Merit: 155

Quote from: yahoo62278 on January 25, 2018, 07:27:41 AM

The merit system is there to encourage you to make quality posts. Contribute something positive to a topic by saying more then I agree. You can get multiple merit points for your replies if users deem it a quality post.

I want to see the numbers doubled or tripled honestly. Users have 35 weeks to start from newbie to sr member and 70 weeks to get to hero. That is plenty of time to get the merit points required in order to rank up.

All these users that troll the bitcoin discussion section, trading discussion, altcoin discussion, economy, and speculation sections are going to need to start making better posts or they'll be stuck at their current rank for a long time.

It's meant to be a little tough but not impossible.

Agree. At the start of merit system, I cannot imagine that I can get merit points from other users in the forum. By now, I have got 8 merits for my contributive posts from other generous users. I think that is the way merit system will truly work and improve our forum to be a cleaner, more knowledgeable one.

hilariousetc

legendary

Activity: 2968

Merit: 3061

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Quote from: cho99 on January 27, 2018, 09:27:33 AM

I never been against the system and even if I dislike some of the points about this new merit system , I still believe that moderators are trying their best to get this forum much better than it is now , but what I'm sure about is that people will try anyway to cheat to get this Merit and rank up , and other people who really posting a high quality posts will be stuck for ever in the bottom of this forum and never get merit for what they are doing because of some folks who doesn't care about giving merit for who really deserve it

People will cheat this system just like they do feedback or ranks, but that doesn't make them useless or not important for you to achieve genuinely. It's not going to be easy to achieve ranks now but I don't think it should be and this was part of the problem of the ranking system in the first place, but if you're a quality contributor over time you'll be recognised as such and rewarded eventually.

Quote from: DAOfan on January 27, 2018, 09:38:59 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on January 25, 2018, 07:24:50 AM

If it's that easy to get points then it defeats the whole purpose of the system and it makes it much easier to farm/sell points.

The legendary crowd doesn't understand because they get (5!) fricken merit for a shitpost like this. You literally spent 10 seconds writing that post and got merited by (guess who?) other legendary members. You created an exclusive club - I'm sure that makes you feel very proud of yourself - you can just tell everyone else to F*Off if they don't like it, because you're in and they are out.

IMO people who decide to create exclusive clubs are compensating for something...

And what about all my other 'constructive' posts that I've made that got absolutely no merit at all by the so called legendary crowd? I think you shouldn't take yourself so serious. It can't have been a shitpost if people gave it merit and appreciated it, but I'm guessing they found it funny more than anything which a little humour is needed around here. If I hadn't of posted the image then I doubt it would have gotten everything at all and I think if anyone else would have made that post they would have likely got the merit regardless of rank.

TMAN

legendary

Activity: 1414

Merit: 1808

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Quote from: DAOfan on January 27, 2018, 09:38:59 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on January 25, 2018, 07:24:50 AM

If it's that easy to get points then it defeats the whole purpose of the system and it makes it much easier to farm/sell points.

The legendary crowd doesn't understand because they get (5!) fricken merit for a shitpost like this. You literally spent 10 seconds writing that post and got merited by (guess who?) other legendary members. You created an exclusive club - I'm sure that makes you feel very proud of yourself - you can just tell everyone else to F*Off if they don't like it, because you're in and they are out.

IMO people who decide to create exclusive clubs are compensating for something..

Compensating for forgetting more about bitcoin than you will ever know? Compensating for being on these boards for 1000+ days? Posting, questioning, learning....

Need I say more?

DAOfan

member

Activity: 126

Merit: 10

Quote from: hilariousandco on January 25, 2018, 07:24:50 AM

If it's that easy to get points then it defeats the whole purpose of the system and it makes it much easier to farm/sell points.

The legendary crowd doesn't understand because they get (5!) fricken merit for a shitpost like this. You literally spent 10 seconds writing that post and got merited by (guess who?) other legendary members. You created an exclusive club - I'm sure that makes you feel very proud of yourself - you can just tell everyone else to F*Off if they don't like it, because you're in and they are out.

IMO people who decide to create exclusive clubs are compensating for something...

cho99

member

Activity: 224

Merit: 61

Quote from: hilariousetc on January 27, 2018, 07:00:55 AM

Quote from: cho99 on January 27, 2018, 01:57:18 AM

you were just replaying with this post , you didn't come up with something new , something constructive but you still get merit points !!! just ask your self why ? Because you're famous , your a moderator a legendary member . Off course I'm not complaining about you high quality post but I believe this post dose not deserve merit points but you know people always love licking ass . What I'm trying to say is that this not the best idea for improving the posts quality in here . I don't expect to get merit for this post because I don't deserve it . Because only high quality posts are allowed to get it . Do not feel offended because I do have a lot of respect for you

Giving members such as me merit points is pretty much useless and I really don't care about accumulating them, but people are free to give points as they wish and they will reward posts they deem thoughtful, informative, entertaining or they just down right agree with it. I think higher ranked members will give them out quite liberally if one of these criterias are met regardless or rank or reputation, because they ultimately want the forum to be a better place and to improve and currently this is the best way to encourage it. You may disagree with what posts others give merit out for but I think you are likely more biased due to your dislike of the system than somebody who you think may be giving them out just to 'lick ass'.

I never been against the system and even if I dislike some of the points about this new merit system , I still believe that moderators are trying their best to get this forum much better than it is now , but what I'm sure about is that people will try anyway to cheat to get this Merit and rank up , and other people who really posting a high quality posts will be stuck for ever in the bottom of this forum and never get merit for what they are doing because of some folks who doesn't care about giving merit for who really deserve it

hilariousetc

legendary

Activity: 2968

Merit: 3061

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Quote from: cho99 on January 27, 2018, 01:57:18 AM

you were just replaying with this post , you didn't come up with something new , something constructive but you still get merit points !!! just ask your self why ? Because you're famous , your a moderator a legendary member . Off course I'm not complaining about you high quality post but I believe this post dose not deserve merit points but you know people always love licking ass . What I'm trying to say is that this not the best idea for improving the posts quality in here . I don't expect to get merit for this post because I don't deserve it . Because only high quality posts are allowed to get it . Do not feel offended because I do have a lot of respect for you

Giving members such as me merit points is pretty much useless and I really don't care about accumulating them, but people are free to give points as they wish and they will reward posts they deem thoughtful, informative, entertaining or they just down right agree with it. I think higher ranked members will give them out quite liberally if one of these criterias are met regardless or rank or reputation, because they ultimately want the forum to be a better place and to improve and currently this is the best way to encourage it. You may disagree with what posts others give merit out for but I think you are likely more biased due to your dislike of the system than somebody who you think may be giving them out just to 'lick ass'.

speedy1987

sr. member

Activity: 462

Merit: 250

Quote from: MGmahesh on January 26, 2018, 07:08:10 AM

Quote from: 2girls on January 25, 2018, 07:21:02 AM

The system is great and if implemented in true sense without favourism can only benefit for everyone.

Prediction:
Its Just the first day of this system but come back here after a month or so and you will see Jr Member and all other ranks will stuck at where they are and all those Selfish DT Members (Lunda / Pharmist / Actmyname etc) + Not Selfish DT Members + few good friends of them will have buckets full of merits and bitcointalk will be for those only 500 to 600 Users. Grin

Now you see a spam by the Selffish DT members that "Improve your post quality" And we will still tag you Shit Poster Grin

So no need to debate on this, just come back after a month on this and check the merits of everyone Cheesy

Anyways now coming for the help of Ordinary public of bitcointalk, I have just one suggestion , Can we lower the number of the merits in order to achieve Ranks.

I mean if a Member needs 10 then why not

Full Member    20
Sr. Member    30
Hero Member    40
Legand 50

Of course only a good poster will first get 10 points to become member and time it take to achieve Hero to Leg. is still that same 1.3 to 2 years.

sorry, I think it's a good policy to improve the quality of users in bitcoin forums, and many more benefits for the progress and existence of the world of bitcoin crypto in the future. so that will be born shades of thought and ideas that brilliant as a driver of bitcoin future.

Merits will show out the high quality posters to the manager if wanna join in campaign and want to involved translations or other projects. Hence, I believe this good implementation in this forum. Newbies and guys who are all lesser than full member will buthurt because this. Lol.
Forum standard will increase like all cannot be use and make everything in the forum.

cho99

member

Activity: 224

Merit: 61

Quote from: hilariousetc on January 26, 2018, 06:31:32 AM

Quote from: Durr_1412 on January 26, 2018, 01:03:23 AM

Lmao.
Do you understand what are you saying?
BTW I don't want to talk with another Legendary who get benefit from this system.
Good luck with your happiness.
One day no one care about this forum if this Merit score isn't changed, and don't react with my prediction yet.
Keep this Merit system going on and don't change anything, and remember my prediction.
King will be rotated.
You are not unique in this crypto-world.

I think a more pertinent question is do you understand what you're saying? This forum is pretty unique just by the fact that you can earn here and that's why you're here and won't be leaving anytime soon just as the hordes of shitposters wont be either. They'll kick and scream for a bit like you're doing because they now can't rank up easy by shitposting but they'll quieten down once they realise it's futile and this change is for the better.

Quote from: arthur25 on January 26, 2018, 03:32:44 AM

Merit is favored to all. This will serve as a gas to move properly with this kind of terms.
Yes, I really aspire you guys (Member-Legendary). But the merit system seems unfair to us as jr. I am not so good with regards in Engligh language and I try my best to improve.
My point is this not all full members - legendary are doing their best to promote a good constructive quality post. Why those communities are favored too.? Is that a token of respect for being here for a long time.?

Stick to your local board if you're not fluent in English. There'll be plenty of other users there who will leave merit for posts they deem worthy but people shouldn't be allowed to farm accounts by spamming poor, practically unintelligible posts and this system is trying to prevent that.

Quote from: tokeweed on January 26, 2018, 06:05:53 AM

Quote from: yojodojo21 on January 25, 2018, 10:06:46 PM

Meta section is crowded with threads that has a topic about merits, well this is a new feature where somebody can consider it as a blessing and while other consider it as a bad timing. 1 day of implementing merits and still counting.

I have one and a half month to be a sr.member but I'm not expecting to achieve that rank because of this merit thing.

However, i will try my best.

Merit challenge accepted.

That's the thing tho. Does ranking up really matter? What if theymos got rid of it entirely...? Would that still interest you to keep posting even if you didn't feel like it? No, right?

Of course it matters. 99% of users who sign up to this forum do so just because of signature campaigns and achieving a higher rank is essential to them earning more. If signature campaigns were banned or stopped most would instantly leave and never return.

you were just replaying with this post , you didn't come up with something new , something constructive but you still get merit points !!! just ask your self why ? Because you're famous , your a moderator a legendary member . Off course I'm not complaining about you high quality post but I believe this post dose not deserve merit points but you know people always love licking ass . What I'm trying to say is that this not the best idea for improving the posts quality in here . I don't expect to get merit for this post because I don't deserve it . Because only high quality posts are allowed to get it . Do not feel offended because I do have a lot of respect for you

audaciousbeing

hero member

Activity: 1330

Merit: 569

I won't say the merit system is perfect but its not too high and you don't know who is watching. Today I just noticed my merit increased and I was wondering what I did or who found it worthy only to discover that it was not even a recent post, it was not all epistle post, it was just an expression of opinion on certain matter and it was from someone who I never had contact with on the forum and don't even care about reciprocating it.

What I fear is for people who are likely to be impatient with the whole process and wanted to rank up by all means because there is a huge gap between one level and the other. Again, let all work together because its possible to gather 50 merit in a day but not 50 activities so with proper intelligent posts one might even get the merit to be a Hero Member while still a Senior Member.

Soke

member

Activity: 101

Merit: 16

Quote from: tokeweed on January 26, 2018, 06:05:53 AM

Quote from: yojodojo21 on January 25, 2018, 10:06:46 PM

Meta section is crowded with threads that has a topic about merits, well this is a new feature where somebody can consider it as a blessing and while other consider it as a bad timing. 1 day of implementing merits and still counting.

I have one and a half month to be a sr.member but I'm not expecting to achieve that rank because of this merit thing.

However, i will try my best.

Merit challenge accepted.

That's the thing tho. Does ranking up really matter? What if theymos got rid of it entirely...? Would that still interest you to keep posting even if you didn't feel like it? No, right?

Ranking matters if you participate in bounty campaigns and you receive a larger stake if your rank is higher. Other than that reason, ranks doesn't mean much. I've seen high ranking members act like they are newbies.

MGmahesh

newbie

Activity: 98

Merit: 0

Quote from: 2girls on January 25, 2018, 07:21:02 AM

The system is great and if implemented in true sense without favourism can only benefit for everyone.

Prediction:
Its Just the first day of this system but come back here after a month or so and you will see Jr Member and all other ranks will stuck at where they are and all those Selfish DT Members (Lunda / Pharmist / Actmyname etc) + Not Selfish DT Members + few good friends of them will have buckets full of merits and bitcointalk will be for those only 500 to 600 Users. Grin

Now you see a spam by the Selffish DT members that "Improve your post quality" And we will still tag you Shit Poster Grin

So no need to debate on this, just come back after a month on this and check the merits of everyone Cheesy

Anyways now coming for the help of Ordinary public of bitcointalk, I have just one suggestion , Can we lower the number of the merits in order to achieve Ranks.

I mean if a Member needs 10 then why not

Full Member    20
Sr. Member    30
Hero Member    40
Legand 50

Of course only a good poster will first get 10 points to become member and time it take to achieve Hero to Leg. is still that same 1.3 to 2 years.

sorry, I think it's a good policy to improve the quality of users in bitcoin forums, and many more benefits for the progress and existence of the world of bitcoin crypto in the future. so that will be born shades of thought and ideas that brilliant as a driver of bitcoin future.

tokeweed

legendary

Activity: 3976

Merit: 1421

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^ Lmao. I almost replied then I saw it was you.

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