#MeritBrokeMyLife AGAIN - A Message To theymos

philipma1957

legendary

Activity: 4116

Merit: 7849

'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: cabalism13 on February 21, 2020, 12:12:18 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on February 21, 2020, 11:24:25 AM

...

The list is above your post. And will keep editing...
I think with these I can apply for another application...
Beverage Sauce ✌😂

TIA for helping our Community.

I did some of them. I have now spent my source merits and will be taking a merit break for a bit.

cabalism13

legendary

Activity: 1428

Merit: 1165

🤩Finally Married🤩

Quote from: philipma1957 on February 21, 2020, 11:24:25 AM

...

The list is above your post. And will keep editing...
I think with these I can apply for another application...
Beverage Sauce ✌😂

TIA for helping our Community.

philipma1957

legendary

Activity: 4116

Merit: 7849

'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: cabalism13 on February 21, 2020, 10:50:57 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on February 21, 2020, 10:47:41 AM

Quote from: cabalism13 on February 21, 2020, 01:30:37 AM

Bump.
Need More sMerits
#MeritContinuouslyBreakingMyLife

Sent you 8 merits spend them on good posts.

Thanks But could you please... well, I might be rude enough but I would like you to give them atleast 1 maybe:

Editing...

Give me a list of some posts.

I was in the USN and had a lot of good friends from the P.I.

still keep in touch with some of them.

cabalism13

legendary

Activity: 1428

Merit: 1165

🤩Finally Married🤩

Quote from: philipma1957 on February 21, 2020, 10:47:41 AM

Quote from: cabalism13 on February 21, 2020, 01:30:37 AM

Bump.
Need More sMerits
#MeritContinuouslyBreakingMyLife

Sent you 8 merits spend them on good posts.

Thanks But could you please... well, I might be rude enough but I would like you to give them atleast 1 maybe:

philipma1957

legendary

Activity: 4116

Merit: 7849

'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: cabalism13 on February 21, 2020, 01:30:37 AM

Bump.
Need More sMerits
#MeritContinuouslyBreakingMyLife

Sent you 8 merits spend them on good posts.

cryptoaddictchie

legendary

Activity: 2072

Merit: 1315

Quote from: cabalism13 on February 21, 2020, 01:30:37 AM

Bump.
Need More sMerits
#MeritContinuouslyBreakingMyLife

Just a wait a bit mate. Those smerits will come as refill is on the way. Maybe you will be surprised to see if the allocations were doubled. Grin

and theymos listen to the need of more smerits. Many in our Local users are probably waiting for you too. Lots of good posts are stuck with 0 merits. Hope some merit sources go there for some quick visit. ( I have also lots of local post without merits) Anyway, I will also spend some again if merit spree comes underway.
#MeritChristmasAgain

cabalism13

legendary

Activity: 1428

Merit: 1165

🤩Finally Married🤩

Bump.
Need More sMerits
#MeritContinuouslyBreakingMyLife

tranthidung

legendary

Activity: 2170

Merit: 3858

Farewell o_e_l_e_o

Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 19, 2020, 09:14:40 AM

If I were you, I would not do that, giving away merit is an objective matter for every person, whenever we see a worthy article, we can ~~post it~~ send merit, it may be random. However, it may be one, maybe 10, it doesn't matter, it should not be restricted Wink

There are always special cases when you give more than your max daily cap (if you set yours) but I still believe it is better to have a max daily cap.

Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 19, 2020, 07:54:22 AM

To be honest, I didn't understand how we could calculate the amount of sMerit we get

There are two available services for you:

[TELEGRAM BOT] Merit, Trust List, etc. [INFORMATION]
Unofficial service to get your total merits in the last 120 days (I am not a bot, so you do need me online to fill your request).

But it is unnecessary to use those services just to know how many sMerits you have left. Let's click on the merit button and you will be directed to a page, on which you will find your available sMerits. Cheesy

ChuckBuck

hero member

Activity: 1372

Merit: 783

better everyday ♥

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on February 19, 2020, 08:07:02 AM

skip

I don't really understand either Cheesy

Quote from: tranthidung on February 19, 2020, 09:00:17 AM

Setting up a max cap of daily smerits will be given away.
Filling the gaps of un-used sMerits of previous days (if you don't find good posts to give away)
Never pre-use your self-allocated sMerits.

I could be wrong but obeying these rules will help you lifting up the level of quality of posts you will give your sMerits on. For example, if I set up my daily cap at 5, I must find only 5 best posts each day to send my 5 sMerits to. There are days you find many good posts (more than 5, and you will have to choose the best 5) and days you did not find a single good post.

If I were you, I would not do that, giving away merit is an objective matter for every person, whenever we see a worthy article, we can ~~post it~~ send merit, it may be random. However, it may be one, maybe 10, it doesn't matter, it should not be restricted Wink

I don't mean to be rude to you

But look, you act like a pre-programmed robot Roll Eyes

whenever I see posts from you, it will be statistics, analysis, calculations and data, ... WHY??? Huh

We are human, let's act based on our emotions and thoughts, don't work like a robot, figures are not everything, there are no rules here.

tranthidung

legendary

Activity: 2170

Merit: 3858

Farewell o_e_l_e_o

I am not a merit source (I planned to make my source application on the beautiful day 02/02/2020 but I did not finish it as consequence of something unexpected) but I have my strategies to do if I am a source:

Setting up a max cap of daily smerits will be given away.
Filling the gaps of un-used sMerits of previous days (if you don't find good posts to give away)
Never pre-use your self-allocated sMerits.

I could be wrong but obeying these rules will help you lifting up the level of quality of posts you will give your sMerits on. For example, if I set up my daily cap at 5, I must find only 5 best posts each day to send my 5 sMerits to. There are days you find many good posts (more than 5, and you will have to choose the best 5) and days you did not find a single good post.

I have some statistics for your local (all outdated ones).
Your local is the sixth most actively local boards on the forum, based on statistics. Wink

Quote from: tranthidung on November 28, 2019, 10:59:46 PM

Based on the criteria, the top 5 active local boards are:

Russian: 1505 posts/day
Indonesian: 545 posts/day
Turkish: 376 posts/day
Chinese: 213 posts/day
Pilipinas: 174 posts/day

There are two sets of criteria but I would like to choose the rankpost. There is no reasons for now to combine two criteria sets.

Details:

Code:

 +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
     | rankpost   ranktopic      boardname   npost_daily   ntopics_daily     npost   ntopics   daysbetween    birthday       today |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
  1. |        1           1        Russian        1356.2            36.3   4626017    123808          3411   28jul2010   29nov2019 |
  2. |        2           5     Indonesian           545             6.5   1049600     12574          1926   21aug2014   29nov2019 |
  3. |        3           3        Turkish         375.2              16    889951     38038          2372   01jun2013   29nov2019 |
  4. |        4           2        Chinese         212.9            28.9    658643     89330          3093   11jun2011   29nov2019 |
  5. |        5           6      Pilipinas         173.4             5.5    241878      7642          1395   03feb2016   29nov2019 |

Ranks in total posts per day (ntopics_daily):

Code:

     +------------------------------------------+
     | ranktopic      boardname   ntopics_daily |
     |------------------------------------------|
  1. |         1        Russian            36.3 |
  2. |         2        Chinese            28.9 |
  3. |         3        Turkish              16 |
  4. |         4         German             7.8 |
  5. |         5     Indonesian             6.5 |
     |------------------------------------------|
  6. |         6      Pilipinas             5.5 |

Quote from: tranthidung on December 23, 2019, 09:34:01 AM

In median, there are 7 merits distributed daily on your board (it is an outdate figure, and I guess the statistics has been risen recent months, but not too significantly).

Quote from: tranthidung on December 23, 2019, 10:51:30 PM

6. Pilipinas

Code:

    variable |         N      mean        sd       p50       p25       p75       min       max
-------------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
       merit |     555.0      11.8      18.9       7.0       3.0      15.0       1.0     331.0
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Outliers are days have intra-day merits above 33.

Code:

. di 15-3
12

. di 12*1.5
18

. di 15 + 18
33

Most of outliers occured since the April of 2019. Lots of effects from merit sources in that board, definitely.

Code:

     +-------------------+
     |      date   merit |
     |-------------------|
  2. | 26jan2018      48 |
  3. | 27jan2018      46 |
  5. | 29jan2018      33 |
  6. | 30jan2018      51 |
 72. | 08apr2018      52 |
 75. | 12apr2018      55 |
 85. | 24apr2018      46 |
133. | 19jun2018      64 |
155. | 11jul2018      83 |
     |-------------------|
329. | 26apr2019      36 |
347. | 15may2019      61 |
352. | 20may2019      37 |
370. | 07jun2019      40 |
372. | 09jun2019     331 |
375. | 12jun2019      51 |
376. | 13jun2019      40 |
377. | 14jun2019      48 |
378. | 15jun2019      47 |
383. | 20jun2019      34 |
409. | 17jul2019      39 |
413. | 21jul2019      84 |
420. | 28jul2019      36 |
421. | 29jul2019      65 |
441. | 18aug2019      90 |
478. | 26sep2019      92 |
482. | 30sep2019      33 |
483. | 01oct2019      38 |
488. | 06oct2019      61 |
495. | 13oct2019      34 |
497. | 15oct2019      40 |
500. | 18oct2019      41 |
514. | 01nov2019      55 |
520. | 07nov2019      38 |
522. | 09nov2019      33 |
539. | 26nov2019      61 |
540. | 27nov2019      53 |
     +-------------------+

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2310

Merit: 10758

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 19, 2020, 07:54:22 AM

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The ratio has always been that of getting 1 sMerit in your balance for every 2 earned Merits. That is the same for everyone, but additionally Merits Sources get an extra monthly supply (different sMerit inner counter, but sMerit just the same).

When the system kicked-off, you had some onetime airdropped sMerits in your account, based on your rank and activity over the prior year. In your case, that allowed you to send more than you received over the first few months, and may have led to the 1:1 perception somehow.

See: https://public.tableau.com/shared/565356JPQ?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

TheBeardedBaby

legendary

Activity: 2184

Merit: 3134

₿uy / $ell

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on February 19, 2020, 07:50:01 AM

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on February 19, 2020, 06:43:59 AM

Seems like i have to re-open my sMeirt begging thread again? Any other sources that need more smerit out there?

Keep me on the list, but it's a global scandal that you aren't a merit source yet. We should focus on that first.

The craziest thing I get refill almost all the time, so whenever I run out of sMerit takes around 2-3 days and there I have again enough for a week. I doesn't really matter if I post " don't send merit " they keep sending, here a fresh example from today so I really gave up on that.

Now we have two persons asking for more merit,so it's time to ~~release the Kraken~~ unlock the thread, for a second round

o_e_l_e_o

legendary

Activity: 2268

Merit: 18509

Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 19, 2020, 07:54:22 AM

I remember the time when the merit system was launched, then, every time I received 1 merit, I would have 1 sMerit (pretty sure about it, because when the merit system came into being, I was quite interested about my merit). But now it is calculated differently, the rate is now 2 merit for 1 sMerit Cheesy

Maybe this rate depends on each user, right?

That's incorrect. It has always been 1 sMerit per 2 earned merit, for all users. Here it is in the merit announcement post from theymos:

Quote from: theymos on January 24, 2018, 07:00:11 PM

Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Quote from: ChuckBuck on February 19, 2020, 07:54:22 AM

EDIT: Want to ask a little more, how can I become a source of merit?

See below:

Quote from: theymos on January 24, 2018, 07:00:11 PM

If you want to be a merit source:

1. Be a somewhat established member.
2. Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months by other people that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread. The point of this is to demonstrate your ability to give out merit usefully.
3. We will take a look at your history and maybe make you a source.

ChuckBuck

hero member

Activity: 1372

Merit: 783

better everyday ♥

Quote from: YOSHIE on February 19, 2020, 02:28:45 AM

division:
My guess if other members, in receiving sMerit and Merit (2; 1) I think TMAN gets an additional sMerit 1; 4.77.
Namely: if a member sends 1 Merit to TMAN he gets 4.77 sMerit - Maybe more or less - if it is matched with an expenditure of 276 sMerit.

To be honest, I didn't understand how we could calculate the amount of sMerit we get, I don't know if there's any rule there. I remember the time when the merit system was launched, then, every time I received 1 merit, I would have 1 sMerit (pretty sure about it, because when the merit system came into being, I was quite interested about my merit). But now it is calculated differently, the rate is now 2 merit for 1 sMerit Cheesy

Maybe this rate depends on each user, right?
Anyway, I am still fine with the current merit system, although it is difficult for me to get some merit Cheesy

EDIT: Want to ask a little more, how can I become a source of merit? In fact, I have very few merit now Grin

o_e_l_e_o

legendary

Activity: 2268

Merit: 18509

Quote from: skarais on February 19, 2020, 06:56:18 AM

But I dont know what sMerit generation is for every MS because I am not MS Cheesy

, but at least I can find out from other MS experiences shared here.

Only theymos knows exactly the monthly allocation of sMerit for each merit source. It's very difficult to work out exactly just by observing sent merits since you don't know which merits sent were from source sMerits and which were from personal sMerits, and how much of a pool of personal sMerits the source in question has to dip in to. You can get a rough idea of who the biggest sources are by looking at this list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsendat

Quote from: skarais on February 19, 2020, 06:56:18 AM

The number of sMerit obtained by MS can increase or decrease depending on the number of sMerit sent in that month.

Sort of correct. Source merit is replenished exactly 30 days after it is spent. If I had an allocation of 50 source merits, then I would be able to spend 50 source merits every month. If I spent them all one month, they would replenish and I would have 50 to spend next month. If I didn't spend any in one month, I'd still have 50 to spend next month. So the number of sMerit which replenishes is based upon how many you sent last month, but the amount you can award in a single month is always the same as your allocation.

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on February 19, 2020, 06:43:59 AM

Seems like i have to re-open my sMeirt begging thread again? Any other sources that need more smerit out there?

Keep me on the list, but it's a global scandal that you aren't a merit source yet. We should focus on that first.

cabalism13

legendary

Activity: 1428

Merit: 1165

🤩Finally Married🤩

Quote from: skarais on February 19, 2020, 06:56:18 AM

Snip

LoL. Another MATH.
Guys please refrain from sending MATHS, I'm having a headache reading those posts ✌😂

Quote from: LoyceV on February 19, 2020, 06:10:50 AM

I'd say: "Don't spend them all at once" Tongue

I tried 😰😓😢

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on February 19, 2020, 06:43:59 AM

Seems like i have to re-open my sMeirt begging thread again?

Oh right, Beefing for more Sauces...
Yeah, I think you should. Besides you already got your application

Good Luck.

skarais

legendary

Activity: 2464

Merit: 2094

Quote from: YOSHIE on February 19, 2020, 02:28:45 AM

division:
My guess if other members, in receiving sMerit and Merit (2; 1) I think TMAN gets an additional sMerit 1; 4.77.
Namely: if a member sends 1 Merit to TMAN he gets 4.77 sMerit - Maybe more or less - if it is matched with an expenditure of 276 sMerit.

I think the number of merit that is obtained by each MS will not affect the number of generation of sMerit for the source and sMerit obtained will remain by the formula 2:1

Sample case:
- If X as MS gets sMerit from Theymos 200 in one month and X gets 50 merit from other users, the number of sMerit that can be sent by X in that month is 225.
The calculation is:

Code:

- 200 sMerit as MS
- 25 sMerit self-generated
- 225 sMerit is the total that can be sent

IMO, sMerit obtained by MS will vary "very likely" and is determined by how actively they spend sMerit available for each month.

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on February 19, 2020, 05:13:46 AM

This is incorrect. Any source sMerit that a merit source has is complete independent from how much merit they earn themselves. I could earn 0 merit or 200 merit in a month, and my source sMerit allocation wouldn't change.

I agree with you and that makes sense. But I dont know what sMerit generation is for every MS because I am not MS Cheesy

, but at least I can find out from other MS experiences shared here.

The number of sMerit obtained by MS can increase or decrease depending on the number of sMerit sent in that month. So the point is not on the merit received, but the sMerit that is spent. Please correct me if its wrong.

TheBeardedBaby

legendary

Activity: 2184

Merit: 3134

₿uy / $ell

Seems like i have to re-open my sMeirt begging thread again? Any other sources that need more smerit out there?
To all those who cannot spend all their allocated smerit maybe you can follow the example of TMAN, and rank up some good old should-be-a-legendary heroes, so they won't be lost with the time

LoyceV

legendary

Activity: 3290

Merit: 16489

Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021

This is your Merit sending graph with 5 days per column:
Graph loading...

I'd say: "Don't spend them all at once" Tongue

If you spend your source Merits evenly during the first 30 days, they'll also replenish regularly, so it'll never take long to get a few new ones.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on February 19, 2020, 01:30:14 AM

Anyway, props to you for running out of sMerits--that means you're probably doing a good job as a merit source. I need to step it up myself.

Easy: just give more per post, theymos prefers when Merit sources empty their source:

Quote from: theymos on October 21, 2018, 10:28:55 AM

It's best if sources try to exhaust their source allocations, even if it means giving posts higher amounts than is typical.

o_e_l_e_o

legendary

Activity: 2268

Merit: 18509

Quote from: cabalism13 on February 19, 2020, 01:02:30 AM

I wonder if the admin can be more considerate about increasing again our allocations EVERY 6 MONTHS ( Same Computations like on November ) then Inactive Sauces will be removed again on that time.

I wouldn't make this an automatic process every 6 months, as the only possible long-term outcome from it is centralization of the merit system. Sources who send a lot of merit will get more sMerits to send, and sources who have been lax for a few months will see their sMerits reduce and eventually disappear. Sources who lose a large part of their sMerit allocation will find it difficult to work back up again, and few new merit sources are being appointed. I agree that periodic readjustment is good, as is reviewing for new sources, but committing to the same change every x months is probably not the way to go.

Quote from: YOSHIE on February 19, 2020, 02:28:45 AM

My guess if other members, in receiving sMerit and Merit (2; 1) I think TMAN gets an additional sMerit 1; 4.77.
Namely: if a member sends 1 Merit to TMAN he gets 4.77 sMerit - Maybe more or less - if it is matched with an expenditure of 276 sMerit.

This is incorrect. Any source sMerit that a merit source has is complete independent from how much merit they earn themselves. I could earn 0 merit or 200 merit in a month, and my source sMerit allocation wouldn't change.

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