Topic: Meriting Your Alt is allowed? - page 2. (Read 578 times)

Seriously?!
We are not talking about trained monkey who is using keyboard to make multiple ''mistakes'' like this to his alt accounts, and add them to his trust list.



Meriting your alt accounts and including them in your trust list is crazy and immoral behavior, but OP why don't you use your main account if you wanted to talk about this?
Most of philipma1957 alt accounts are inactive for years, however, problem is that he continues to do the same thing with his new alt accounts now.
I see no reason why DT member in his position should be able to do something like this all the time without any explanation.

@philipma1957 you have something to say about this?

I dislike users making accusations or trying to sling mud from a newbie account. Basically a chickenshit scared they will get tagged. Have some balls, it's not illegal to ask a question even if it might piss off a DT user.

With that being said, I do not think it's right to merit am alt account. If the OP were to do it, I'm sure some DT would tag him/her for it. I don't feel like Philipma sent merit to abuse the system as it was only 1 merit. Maybe so when he hit Jr he could post images, who knows.

I also think it's wrong to include your alt in DT/trust lists but there are multiple DT users that have done so I think. Hilariousandco is the only 1 I specifically remember.

Whether I feel any of these actions are right or wrong, it does come down to a case by case thing. Older established members with nothing to gain will not get tagged, whereas newbie or lower ranked members will likely not get the benefit of doubt.

Well, you did create this topic and have tried to put some sort of "guilty" tag on his back.
So no matter what you claim/declare afterwards, some harm (and drama) is done.

Even more, I find your "innocent" (lol) question rather insulting. You have too much of politician material.

Why do you think I created this drama while I already said:

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No, I didn't check. It's not the point here. I just wanted to see the community reaction.


Where did I say five Active accounts? No matter if they are active or not. The accounts are counted.

Have you looked at the latest activity?
Can this be called five active accounts?

When a newbie does this, he's doing it for farming accounts, for using multiple users in whatever bounties or campaigns (usually against their rules) or for conducting scams.
Also in most cases those are not newbies, are established users' new accounts (btw, I guess that this is not your main account also, so you should know this kind of details).

On the other hand philipma1957 has proven already well enough that he's not interested in scams and these accounts have a clear purpose (you will see that at least Philipma1957cellphone is inactive now).
Plus his alts are clearly stated they're alts.


So it's by far an exception, in the good way. I would have not done that in his place (and if I would have had alts) even if that would have been meaning that for example I would not be able to post images, but being harsh on him for this would be really silly.
Hence I don't know why you are so keen to create this unnecessary drama.

I agree with that.


Well, While some reputed well-known members used their alt and they informed the community that- This is my alt, At the same time a lot more people using their alt and maybe they also meriting their alts. But we don't know until they get exposed. I am not accusing him of merit abuse, and I am not expecting a harsh reply. I want to see how the community react when it varies from person to person.

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I guess most of them are exposed by others.

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While I am not accusing him of merit abuse, I also don't understand why he needs to merit his alts since he is not participating in any signature campaign.

Show me the account of the person who gave merit to their alt and, in the meantime, told everyone that it was his alternate account.

Everyone probably understands this. Someone who passes merit to their alt is unlikely to admit to managing two or more accounts. And it immediately becomes clear that a person is lying for some personal purpose.

Your example is a completely different case. I think that Philipma1957 is often in different places, but because of his love of the forum, he tries to always be in touch with different devices. For me, this is normal. I don't see a problem here.

No matter what your excuse is (which is likely going to be a bullshit excuse), you shouldn't merit your own alts imo. Maybe he didn't get any benefits from doing so but it is still not right.

On the other hand, who knows how many others lurking around with multiple accounts, creating fake threads, boosting his army of shills... When you think about it, Philip's mistake looks innocent. It is only 3 merits if I see it right, pretty much nothing.

On a few occasions I forgot which page I am on, and merited the wrong post/user. Maybe he did that.

This should be handled case by case and not only looking by "merit sharing" only, you're correct meriting your own alt is merit abuse, but you need to look more deeper, does he got benefit after meriting his own alt? I find nothing.

1. AFAIK he's never joining any signature campaign, usually most users meriting his own alt to make his alt merit history is high, so his alt will high likely to get accepted.
2. He's also not a scammer and high likely wouldn't become a scammer based on his record.
3. He didn't give merit to his newbie alt to rank up to jr.member to avoid cost of copper membership.

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However what I find interesting he's "self scratching" his own alt


Although he did on a purpose

But he is still using his main account to give positive feedback, this user got three positive feedbacks from his main account and his alt. I don't think this is correct use of trustlist and trust feedback from my understanding so far.

I saw a lot of drama in this forum regarding meriting alt accounts. I saw some people also got tagged because they merited their alt accounts. Forum members believe this is not a good practice. I can gather up a lot of harsh replies from the community when someone merited their alt account. But, I will not spend my time there since almost everyone thinks the same. As I also noticed, Meriting alt is not a merit abuse according to forum rules. But, Moderators discourage users not to doing this.

When you check Bitcointalk Stats From Here,

You will see that philipma1957 Is the Number 1 Top poster on this forum. He has made over 39241+ Posts in this forum since his registration date (With this account only). He is an DT1 Member. He is Top 2 in the Most Recognized Member. He is Number 21 On the Most Trusted Member list. He is number 17 in both Most Activity and Most Merited members.

He already has four accounts (5 from now)

• philipma1957 DT1
• Philipma1957cellphone DT2
• Philipma1957onvacation
• philipma1957laptop
  

With the philipma1957 account, He included his cellphone account on his trust list which makes his cellphone account DT2 (I guess it's allowed).

philipma1957 Trusts these users' judgement:
26. Philipma1957cellphone (Trust: neutral) (125 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

He also merited his cellphone account from his main account.

Merit received by Philipma1957cellphone (Trust list) from January 24, 2018 until May 27, 2022 (source)

   21. Fri Aug 28 14:51:58 2020: 1 (44) from philipma1957 (Trust list) (history) for Re: WTS S 17 pro ASIC -
   10. Tue Nov 26 19:00:45 2019: 2 (28) from philipma1957 (Trust list) (history) for Re: Well the 2018 btc diff jumps are over so what will 2019 bring us?

That was too old Story.
Today, I noticed he created another account named: a1 Hashrate LLC2022 and self-verified -


A few minutes later he made another post and Merited his this alts too.

With due respect, I know He is a great contributor to this forum. Almost 40K posts are no joke.
But, My question is- When a low ranked user gets caught by others meriting his alts, I see DT members give harsh replies and expose them in a toxic way. Some of them Added them to the Distrust list and also some DT members tag them.

No offence to philipma1957. But, I want to see how they react when it comes to the Top Contributor of this forum.