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Topic: Merits for posters not making redundant quotes. (Read 583 times)

hero member
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Merit: 629
Vires in Numeris
November 04, 2018, 05:39:18 PM
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Those are quoting the full OP, most of them are lazy (give benefit of doubt to few as ignorant)
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Might be qouting OP make them feels that they are relevant or on the topic .
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I usually think that some kind of signature spammers use this technique to make their post look more "natural" like they are involved in a conversation and not just spamming out one liners in various topics randomly. If they are in a kind of signature campaign where the manager cares about quality, they use this trick to make their post quality better (or at least looking better).
sr. member
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I am alive but in hibernation.
Those are quoting the full OP, most of them are lazy (give benefit of doubt to few as ignorant)
For replying the post , they are supposed to read every post (or at least traverse through all the post ).
Might be qouting OP make them feels that they are relevant or on the topic .
I generally quote OP when in thread discussion start about 2-3  streams simultaneously with very little relevance to actual OP posted.
newbie
Activity: 280
Merit: 0
I believe that people receiving merits should have actually made a comment that is not redundant as compared to some of the other participants and it should have been original that is within the topic. Redundant post could either be just people reading the previous comments and just pick up the most common lines and rephrasing some of the topic contents.
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Quote is absolutely unnecessary for members seriously taking part in discussion.  Because that person reads each and every post / reply carefully.  He need not any quote to understand the replies.  
 
legendary
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Merit: 2226
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This is a lesson for them who made redundant quote on the thread. Although you have merited few spambie but redundant quoted users should learn from it why they have not received merit. Especially quote full thread is annoying for me also.  I don't think need quote If someone reply on main thread unless answer isn't for any specific sentences. Quote could be use for if need answer to others replied but only specific part.
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legendary
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Merit: 1491
I forgot more than you will ever know.
Fit to Talk translation project.

I've seen the mention to the fit to talk forum in your signature but never heard of it...

Got a link or something?
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 2037
To be fair they both are "spambies".

That's why I knew where to find them, lol. 1 from each of the discussion boards, I literally opened 1 thread on each, kinda sad how easy it was to find "Legendary" accounts to fit the bill. That speaks more to the fact that there is no reason to assume based on rank the quality of a member. You actually have to look beyond the rank to see their worth, goes both ways.

The worst case I've come across (and I don't have a link) was one where a person was applying for a position in a signature campaign and quoted the entire OP of the campaign thread.  And I'm sure the example I'm thinking of isn't the only time someone has done that.

I wonder if they got accepted.  Roll Eyes

I always enjoy that when it's an ANN thread or a long OP review or guide in the mining sections. Generally ends in cramping of the finger trying to scroll through.

We know that the OP revisited the thread, but I wonder how many of the posters that I merited have checked back.

I'm sure a couple of them will be delighted as I do believe it was the first merit for at least one of them, and for 3 others it's a large percentage of their merit received to date. If even 1 of them learned to format posts better I'd call it a win.

I used to use the -snip- a lot and do sometimes, but I generally don't bother anymore. I just cut the quote to what I need and assume people will have read it or can follow the quote back like a link.

legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1655
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Quoting entire op is just disgusting. But sometime need to quote entire op especially for currency exchange thread. Still quoting image should be avoided.

I think that the problem with long quoted text areas could be solved technically by the automatic reduction of quoted text.

To see the full quote you'll need "Click to expand" button on some forums:



https://xenforo.com/community/threads/133426/post-1195340
legendary
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Merit: 2472
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There seem to be a few methods for abbreviating a quote. The symbols for replacing the whole quote I've seen used are  ~ or ~~, <..>, and my personal favourite - the meow >..<  Alternatives for abbreviated posts are snip or , and the typesetters continuation mark /..

We know that the OP revisited the thread, but I wonder how many of the posters that I merited have checked back.
member
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Merit: 27
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Quoting the post is okay, but not the entire context.

Like this one. 
For example. 

~

Cheers.
legendary
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Oh that's been a long standing pet peeve of mine, I really hate it when people quote the entire OP.
Mine too, and sometimes I call people out on it when I happen to be making a post in a thread when I see members doing it.  It doesn't make sense to me why they hit the "quote" button instead of just the "reply" button--or at the very least, why they don't snip out the parts of the quote that aren't relevant, like I just did with your post I quoted.

I was also part of the long line of people that quote entire content
I'm sure I've been guilty of it as well, especially in my early days on the forum.  Quoting huge blocks of text is something I've learned not to do, and I'm glad you've learned not to as well. 

I'm reaally fed up with these stupid repeated quotes, and in some cases it is being dine by legendaries, who really ought to know better.
Jet Cash, whether your "experiment" has any effect or not, I'm glad you made this thread and I hope people read it--especially members who are new to bitcointalk.  Yes, I too have seen Legendary members quoting posts unnecessarily but it seems to be a rampant problem with newer members. 

The worst case I've come across (and I don't have a link) was one where a person was applying for a position in a signature campaign and quoted the entire OP of the campaign thread.  And I'm sure the example I'm thinking of isn't the only time someone has done that.
legendary
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Here is another one- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.47150149
This one is not logical to quote. s/he can simply quote one post while s/he has quoted his previous reply too.
if you quote yourself, you get even more red.. Roll Eyes
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29075690
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29013054
legendary
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Change is in your hands
@Steamtyme To be fair they both are "spambies". I mean just look at their posting styles.
legendary
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I'm just so glad you were able to find a way to merit low rank members, I know it was getting tough.

Well my recent burst of meriting posts has got my merit bag down to 197 available smerits to award. If only some of those new members would stop compaining, and take advantage of the Fit to Talk translation project. That would give me a chance to reduce the total a bit more. The bag keeps getting refilled, so there is plenty available for good posters who support the forum.

Zimbabwe has just announced the Golden - a gold backed token based on the ERC20 chain. Surely there must be some new members who could start a thread about that.
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1828
What annoys me is when I find pictures or codes in it

I admit it, I am guilty of over-quoting. However, I still like to retain the pictures at times. In that case I make it a habit to use the following code.
Code:
[img height=100]stupid.jpg[/img]

I agree that there is nothing more irritating than someone quoting an entire picture that takes up half the page.
jr. member
Activity: 48
Merit: 6
True, quoting has to be controlled and managed. I was also part of the long line of people that quote entire content but over time, I developed this tired feeling whenever I try to quote when it is not necessary but mostly, I pick out my point of interest from the whole content or OP rather than quote it all. What annoys me is when I find pictures or codes in it
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 280
P.S Do you have any references for how legendaries are using redundant quotes?
Here is another one- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.47150149
This one is not logical to quote. s/he can simply quote one post while s/he has quoted his previous reply too.
member
Activity: 434
Merit: 10
Oh that's been a long standing pet peeve of mine, I really hate it when people quote the entire OP.
Quoting entire op is just disgusting. But sometime need to quote entire op especially for currency exchange thread. Still quoting image should be avoided.
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 2037
P.S Do you have any references for how legendaries are using redundant quotes?

Here is 1 I found in a couple seconds. It's not the best example but the post is directly above theirs. They could have easily snipped part/all of it or not quoted it all and used something like this ^^ to indicate a direct reply above. This is also an example of a post that is using a quote to hide their own generic post and prop it up so to speak. I see a lot of this in the discussion board, a quote for no other purpose than to falsely portray a discussion.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43485450

Edit here's another: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45900022
No need for the full quoted OP. They didn't specifically address anything just a general discussion which is fine; just shows there was no need for the quote

In this instance I wanted to make a point, so I thought it would be stronger if I awarded everybody who hadn't quoted.

Makes sense, I'm sure the thread will stick out for some. I may link that to my posting tips guide to show there are benefits to preventing bloody eyeballs.

I'm just so glad you were able to find a way to merit low rank members, I know it was getting tough.
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