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Topic: Merits: Why some people grow fast on the forum (CHECK OUT) (Read 343 times)

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It's a matter of time and chances, there is always room for improvement if you decided to grown on the platform, we may all be born the same day but we can't get rich all at the same time, if you desire it then you can acquire it, compare your post to those ahead of you, even invite a third party to judge in accessing yours, work on yourself, improve your diction and post relevant things needed. To me I've just given you a check and balance principle for continuous development, if some are making progress where you are, that means they offer some quality service and sacrifice you don't know about, discover yours today and have a better smile tomorrow
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I can't mention the name of everyone, and that's why I decided to hand pick some few on the forum.

Please tell us how you hand-picked these five members? What methodology did you use? What metrics?

I don't want to be disrespectful towards our admins and mods, but obviously these are not "the top influential members on this bitcointalk community," as you claim. I mean, you chose someone who is no longer even active on the forum and doesn't have even one "earned" merit, so how exactly did you pick them?
jr. member
Activity: 62
Merit: 6
In fact, the significance of this post is not great. Many of us are studying on this forum.
Some people are used to reading all the time and never writing.
In this forum, merit should not be considered the most important.
Although I think merit is an affirmation of a person.
Everyone hopes that they have a lot of merit. But some people like to help others in obscurity. Observe silently and learn silently.
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Activity: 69
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While some are learning and gaining merits, we learnt that there are users like LoyceV sir and many more who are familiar with Sheets, Tables (in short, Excel work) and using their skills, managing database of the forum in various different ways, they have managed to gain those merits for all their hard work and dedication they have shown on this forum for the entire community. This does not mean that merits are limited to specific skill set only, we have also seen some users getting merited for memes, some for their graphics work while some for their humor, some in their local boards. Collectively, all these things serve as a way for newbies to learn and earn merits, just keep doing what you are doing and never let your efforts get down by the time, because only those succeed who never stop trying.
hero member
Activity: 1288
Merit: 504
I think OP missed the mark on what he was trying to present to the people. Instead of listing those that grew fast, you were centered on some of the famous people. Even at that, you can hardly say some of them are more famous than Lovesmayfamilis, her scam bursting amongst others proceeds her and Hhampuz for the Signature participants.

When it comes to those that were able to grow fast in the forum, you should have looked out for accounts that got created on the forum and were able to rank up in the least time after the introduction of the merit and activity system not before. Those users listed above existed before the merit and activity system which makes your theme of no value @OP.
legendary
Activity: 2422
Merit: 1083
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So listed below are the top influential bitcointalkers I will be  examinating, together with what similarities and characteristics do they have in common

1. MiningBuddy
2. mprep
3. Cyrus
4. Hilariousando
5. Theymos
...

MiningBuddy has not been active in this forum for over three years. His merit was airdropped by the administration on the basis of his forum rank at the time. Get your facts straight! Wink

I guess he didn't see that, lol, anyways, I will like to add that @op, next time you do this kind of comparison, please use ordinary members on this forum and not moderators, we all can not ignore that fact that moderators enjoy some kind of special privileges which the ordinary members don't, a moderator makes a post, whether post makes sense or not, other members will still merit the post cus its the moderators post, ordinarily members work harder to achieve that which they have, so please, next time, use ordinary members and not moderators... It's only fair on everyone.
hero member
Activity: 1666
Merit: 709
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It's hilariousandco, already reading half way into your post and I have seen some wrong search, why people won't grow fast is when they don't do well researched work, or ask questions on things they have no knowledge of before making a suggestive thread, you develop and when you do, you can suggest to others the value or personal experience you had developing, I don't think you can tell someone else's story to other people.
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Activity: 2128
Merit: 532
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Merit is implemented because of spam, low quality post and theymos implemented it to stop the spam but it didn't work yet it lessen the said issue. What you mentioned about a forum user's growth with the merit having a major role in it is not what it should be. Merit's major role is to rank up which is correct but for growth of knowledge and experience, merit is out of it since it is rewarded for those who made substantial post. The answer to your thread's title is read, learn, repeat and you'll received merits when you made a post as you can obviously create a thread which is of hi high quality or something like that.

Merits did a good job as a barrier to those chasing after signature campaigns. That's why we see those questions on how to work for companies or rank up from newbies. After receiving the answer that they didn't expect/ want, they leave.

Meanwhile the rest that do bounty jobs won't give a toss or two about Merits. But hey, not like we visit those Bounty sections anyway.
hero member
Activity: 2268
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Merit is implemented because of spam, low quality post and theymos implemented it to stop the spam but it didn't work yet it lessen the said issue. What you mentioned about a forum user's growth with the merit having a major role in it is not what it should be. Merit's major role is to rank up which is correct but for growth of knowledge and experience, merit is out of it since it is rewarded for those who made substantial post. The answer to your thread's title is read, learn, repeat and you'll received merits when you made a post as you can obviously create a thread which is of hi high quality or something like that.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 10802
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I wouldn’t say that those profiles are "obedient", and I’m pretty sure none of them consider themselves as such (with the exception of to their wife (or such) - perhaps). The highlighted profiles are admins and mods, so it’s pretty much implicit that they kind of comply with the forum rules.

The number of posts is not a measure of much in general terms. There are spammers that can make the 900 post mark in a quarter, so it isn’t really a measure that is objectively fitting to denote "hard work" (if work is the term to be used at all).

Dedicating time to the forum does not warrant merits. It’s not the time factor per se, but what you do with it that has, in any case, that potential. We could easily find spammers that are dedicated here, but are lacking merits due to the content they create being non-substantial.

In general, it’s ok to see what other profiles on the forum have managed to do here with their time, and it’s normally the content they create what speaks for them. We do have to bear in mind though that everybody is fortunately different, and what they do here is not just down to time (which is a major factor indeed), but also to the capabilities they have or develop over time.
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 4265
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OP, stop calling your "creativity" in this thread an article. Google the internet what is the difference between a post and an article before naming your post differently. For example:  https://www.makealivingwriting.com/writing-an-article-vs-writing-blog-post-differences/
Yes, of course, you can kiss the asses of people who have given you merits, but keep in mind it looks very pathetic. And seeing such topics, do not take them as an example, but just read what users write in response to such topics. Do you need such fame or reputation from the first steps on the forum? Make the right conclusions.
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Activity: 117
Merit: 28
This post is a bit misleading. For one, you got the facts of some of those members wrong. Secondly, singling out a few people (no disrespect to them and their contributions) to commend them for their contribution seems to be spite in the face of numerous other members who have been sweating to add quality and relevance to the growth of this forum.

It would have been better if you had referred to people that have influenced you personally. That would be a subjective opinion and no one (including this writer) would counter it.

This sounds more like praise-singing and chasing merit to me.

There are many such posts on the forum. What I want to say is, forget your merits, the more you want to get it, your performance will be obvious, and sometimes it will be clumsy. Let the flow take its course, do your own thing, and keep learning. Mindset, take a look at the posts in the novice section: Reading is greater than replying.
hero member
Activity: 1092
Merit: 747
. Yes, you are by creating this thread.


This is where you are getting it all wrong, I never wrote this article as an avenue to beg for merit, I only wrote this as a medium to express how I felt, which is not a crime, because everyone on this forum is free to express themselves, which I have seen many people done the same in previous post, and I decided to do mine with a view taking a look at those listed above in my article. But, thou I may be wrong on some facts stated, which most commenters has been able to correct my points and am grateful..
So in summary, this article was given birth as a medium to express myself. And to encourage my follow Newbie and Jr members. That in order to be successful, not only on this forum but in life. You have to follow the COHDAF principle. Which means to be Consistent, Obedient, Hardworking, Dedicated, Available and Focus.




. It doesn't mean moderators with less merit is bad,

I never said so, because everybody here is indeed trying their best for the growth of the platform, but just as you know, I can't mention the name of everyone, and that's why I decided to hand pick some few on the forum. Which the names I mentioned are the most popular on the forum which a "brand Newbie" who creates account  today, will still be able to identify them because they are virtually visible on the home page..

So, I stand a chance to be corrected, but I also have a right of expression, as long as it's not against the forum rules and regulation. Thanks



legendary
Activity: 3556
Merit: 9709
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So, we see a new generation of newcomers who are not just hunting for merit, which is at least honestly said but also striving to become moderators and even administrators of the forum.
Buddy, I'll tell you a quick way to become an administrator, open your forums, and voilà, you're already a commander.
But seriously, your "article" is a direct hunt that stings your eyes. First, achieve small milestones, and then you can stutter about big goals. Sometimes Remember that this forum is about bitcoin, not merits.

Agree with everything here, it’s a long post, disguised quite well but it’s clear merit begging imo. I’m seeing a lot of relatively new accounts making similar threads, listing respected members & blowing smoke up their ass. They probably see those users as likely merit senders.

I mean come on, imagine being such a cuckold, you start a thread praising people you’ve probably barely interacted with on here more than a couple of times, if ever.

I’ll file this under - Must try harder.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 2124

He is no longer the first.The one with the most earned merit is LoyceV:



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Yes LoyceV is now the member with most merits on the forum surpassing theymos few days back and at this time of writing LoyceV is already 44 merits ahead of theymos with 8630 merits and i also came across that thread where Ratimov made that post congratulating him.

But the fact is they have earned that much knowledge in these years and @OP is writing about the moderators and administrators of this forum who had implemented certain rules after Satoshi made this forum and are responsible for effective working of the forum.He should concentrate on working towards his goal rather than seeking merits with such posts and i recently came across such one or two posts where the newbies are trying to do the same thing like making remarks and sharing the profile of some esteemed members of this forum whom we already knows and what utility will it serve to others i don't know? You just make some useful contribution and provide and kickstart some good threads not like this.I am not being rude to @OP but just a friendly advice to him to work on these things.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 2017
Those who hunt for merits
Yes, you are by creating this thread.

This sounds more like praise-singing and chasing merit to me.

Yeah. Here we go again. A low-ranked member who creates a long post (which does not mean that it is of high quality) praising the merit system to try to fish some merit.

Get your facts straight! Wink

Take note Cyrus is not just a moderator here on the forum he is also the admin here on the forum.

This post is a bit misleading. For one, you got the facts of some of those members wrong.

Yes, for example, a claim that he has falsely made and that has not been mentioned:

5. Theymos:
.... (the man with the highest merit on the forum).

He is no longer the first.The one with the most earned merit is LoyceV:



https://bpip.org/
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Activity: 1008
Merit: 139
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So, we see a new generation of newcomers who are not just hunting for merit, which is at least honestly said but also striving to become moderators and even administrators of the forum.
Buddy, I'll tell you a quick way to become an administrator, open your forums, and voilà, you're already a commander.

Yeah, looks like it. I find it a bit ridiculous that "young" forum members strive for this goal without considering how much effort administrators and moderators put into running the forum. They probably wouldn't even consider accepting such a position if they were aware of that.

We live in a world where everybody wants to do something quickly, with as little effort and time as possible. It is unfortunate if this obsession with merits becomes the only motivation for new members of this community.
jr. member
Activity: 36
Merit: 7
This topic seems kinda unusual to me. I'd rather people try to strive for individuality, sure you perceive yourself to be like "the best" by mimicking them but you're going to trade off some authenticity for that.

If you're going to earn a lot of merit, you probably don't need telling how to. Whether you manage to earn a lot of merit, some merit or no merit at all, you're still someone and shouldn't really give up what you are just to be what you're told people want you to be...
I very much agree with the point of view.
Personality is very important, it is the soul of expressing opinions, so you still have to stick to your own style and personality.
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 4265
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So, we see a new generation of newcomers who are not just hunting for merit, which is at least honestly said but also striving to become moderators and even administrators of the forum.
Buddy, I'll tell you a quick way to become an administrator, open your forums, and voilà, you're already a commander.
But seriously, your "article" is a direct hunt that stings your eyes. First, achieve small milestones, and then you can stutter about big goals. Sometimes Remember that this forum is about bitcoin, not merits.
hero member
Activity: 2520
Merit: 952
It's not that deep tbh, they probably liked engaging with the community and everything else came naturally.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1208
Those who hunt for merits
Yes, you are by creating this thread.

What you discussed for? Are you describe about top merit earners? There're some people with 2K+ merits but you didn't include on your list.

It doesn't mean moderators with less merit is bad, this because they're mostly working on the backstage by delete, change, move, and locking the thread. Of course we can't merited their work, unless they create a post.

IMO low rank user with top merit earn is more appropriate about grow fast on this forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185736.180
hero member
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Basically we have different set of people in forum, some came because of finance and some are here because of knowledge, and it obvious that earning merit is necessary and but to earn Merit is very easy, actually to earn Merit is base on the post quality and creativity, innovation and Determination, some set of people are been fast in this community base on the nature of their search and articles been rendered here, so op don't be surprised of rapid growth of some forum users because some of them engaged fully to the community.
jr. member
Activity: 54
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This post is a bit misleading. For one, you got the facts of some of those members wrong. Secondly, singling out a few people (no disrespect to them and their contributions) to commend them for their contribution seems to be spite in the face of numerous other members who have been sweating to add quality and relevance to the growth of this forum.

It would have been better if you had referred to people that have influenced you personally. That would be a subjective opinion and no one (including this writer) would counter it.

This sounds more like praise-singing and chasing merit to me.
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This topic seems kinda unusual to me. I'd rather people try to strive for individuality, sure you perceive yourself to be like "the best" by mimicking them but you're going to trade off some authenticity for that.

If you're going to earn a lot of merit, you probably don't need telling how to. Whether you manage to earn a lot of merit, some merit or no merit at all, you're still someone and shouldn't really give up what you are just to be what you're told people want you to be...
legendary
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Take note Cyrus is not just a moderator here on the forum he is also the admin here on the forum.

If you don't know exactly who they are, or if you want to know all staff here on the forum then read this link below

- List of the forum's admins/ global moderators/ staffs

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Activity: 1008
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So listed below are the top influential bitcointalkers I will be  examinating, together with what similarities and characteristics do they have in common

1. MiningBuddy
2. mprep
3. Cyrus
4. Hilariousando
5. Theymos
...

MiningBuddy has not been active in this forum for over three years. His merit was airdropped by the administration on the basis of his forum rank at the time. Get your facts straight! Wink
hero member
Activity: 1092
Merit: 747
Frankly speaking, it has come to my notice that on this forum, there are actually two kinds of people who exist. Those who hunt for merits, and those who makes merit hunt for them through quality and educative post content. And that's why in this article I will be taking a closed examination on one of these people (i.e Those who make merit hunt for them through quality contents).

However, as we all know that the issue of merit on the forum can never be  overemphasized, not now, nor years to come, as it plays a major role in the growth of someone in this community of bitcoin lovers. Since for one to grow, there are two inseparable factors  which determines that, which are "Merit" and "Activity". Whereby one is giving base on the time spent on the forum (Activity), however, the other giving base on the value provided through consistent educative and informative post content.

So, in this article I have decided to take a closed detailed examination at the top influential members on this bitcointalk community, who has immersely contributed to it's growth and performance, with the mindset to know WHAT, WHY and HOW were they able to achieve such massive success, together with what similarities do they all have in common. So as to act as a guide to anyone who hope to someday be like them.

So listed below are the top influential bitcointalkers I will be  examinating, together with what similarities and characteristics do they have in common

1. MiningBuddy
2. mprep
3. Cyrus
4. Hilariousando
5. Theymos



1. MiningBuddy:

Who happens to be the moderator of "Beginners & Help" sub section of the forum, A citizen of United kingdom, who has been a member of bitcointalk since May 20th 2011, and now has over 927 post, 927 Activity and 1000 merit, making him rank up as a (Hero member). Who is always online actively moderating other peoples work.




2. mprep:  
Who is the Global moderator of bitcointalk, moderating several sub sections of the forum (Altcoin Discussion, Mining Altcoin and co..), who got registered on Feb, 4th 2012, and now having a rank of a "Diamond member", with over 6115 posts, 3024 Activity and 1953 merit. Who is a dedicated active member moderating several sub sections to ensure the forum is conducive for everyone.




3. Cyrus:
Who happens to be the moderator of "Trading Discussion" sub section of the forum, and many others, who got registered on Jan 16th 2013, but now having over 3734 post, 2856 activity and 1440 merits. A hard working member, always online to moderate our activities on the forum for fairness.




4. Hilariousandco:
Who happens to be the moderator of "Bitcoin Discussion" sub section of the forum, who lives in the United kingdom, but got registered on the forum on November 20th 2013, and now having over 20,909 post, 2814 activity and 1976 merits, who also happens to be one of the Global moderator who has worked tirelessly hard for the growth of the forum.





5. Theymos:
Who happens to be the administrator of the entire Bitcointalk forum, an active and hard working personality, who has worked tirelessly hard for the growth and betterment of the forum ever since. Who got registered on February 9th 2010, and now has over 9120 post, 4200 activity and 8577 merits (the man with the highest merit on the forum).





STATISTICAL SUMMARY REPRESENTATION

1. MiningBuddy
       Date reg: 20th May, 2011
       No of post:       927
       No of Activity:  927
       No of Merit:.     1000
       No of years on forum: 10yrs


2. Mprep
       Date reg: 4th Feb, 2012
       No of post:       6115
       No of Activity:  3024
       No of Merit:.     1953
       No of years on forum: 9yrs


3. Cyrus
       Date Reg: 16th Jan, 2013
       No of post:       3734
       No of Activity:  2856
       No of Merit:.     1440
       No of years on forum: 8yrs


4. Hilariousandco
       Date reg: 20th Nov, 2013
       No of post:       20,909
       No of Activity:  2814
       No of Merit:.     1976
       No of years on forum: 8yrs


5. Theymos
       Date reg: 9th Feb, 2010
       No of post:       9120
       No of Activity:  4200
       No of Merit:.     8577
       No of years on forum: 11yrs



SIMILARITIES

So now I will be taking a deep look at what similarities do these people all have in common, which I will call the "COHDAF" principle, which by COHDAF, I mean,
     C = Consistency
     O = Obedience
     H = Hardworking
     D = Dedication
     A = Availability
     F = Focus

1. CONSISTENCY: Because looking at the statistical summary of all these people, you could find out that they have been in the forum for more than 7yrs of active participation, despite the fact that by then Bitcoin not having any much value, but they never gave up. So if only you could be consistent like they did, you can achieve same result just like them.


2. OBEDIENCE: Because just as we all know that on this forum, plagiarism is a very big crime punishable by permanent ban, but these people where able to adhere to all forum rules and regulations, and today they are physical examples we admire, and are  eager to learn from. So if only you could obey the rules of the forum, I bet you, you will achieve same result just like them.


3. HARDWORK: Because if you can take a close look at these people, non of them has a post count of less than 900 post, which simply means hardwork. So if only you can give in your time to work very hard on the forum, providing valuable contents, I bet you, you will surely be like them.


4. DEDICATION: Because of you could take a look at all these people, you could find out that they all dedicated there time to the forum, which in turn rewarded them with the "merits" you could see in the summary representation. So if only you could dedicate your time, you can someday be like them.

5. AVAILABILITY: Because despite the fact that within those period when they all registered and became members of bitcointalk, bitcoin never had any value, which would have interested them to join,  but they made themselves available at a time when nobody saw the value in bitcoin, but they did, and kept on believing it till now. So only if you could make yourself available on this forum, I bet you, you will someday be like them.


6. FOCUS: Because without focus, a man can not achieve his desire dream, and these people were focus and today they are celebrated, and everyone hoping to be like them someday. But it always take time. So try to be focus, and I bet you, you will someday be like them.


So. Thank you, thank you and thank you for taking out time to finish reading this article. I hope you got some value?

Stay safe, as we strive to make bitcointalk.org a better place for us all. Thanks
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