Topic: Message to Lauda (Read 656 times)

Okay, I give up. You win guys, happy?

Bye. Locked.

Let's breakdown your bullshit points one by one shall we?


He says a wise man once said, which means he's quoting a third party and not calling himself. Aristotle said "Man is a social animal". Does quoting his line make me Aristotle? No, since the entire point of a quote is you're repeating what someone else said.


I love analogies, so Analogy time

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Judge: You are suspected to be the murderer of Mr John Doe, do you have any defense to this?

You: No, I'm saying I was framed, I only murdered John Doe's wife, his brother and his first born son, I'm innocent I tell you

/analogy

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Do you get what you're doing? You commented (and thus bumped the threads) for pay. This constitutes as a rule break. It doesn't matter who paid you (well it does, so they can be marked as well, but here it's your self admission and the fact that who outed you doesn't affect your individual case)


Hahahahahahaha. No

Joining bounties is a selfish motive to fill your own pockets. It doesn't contribute jack shit to the forum, they are meant as a reward to the active posters and regular contributors (contributors in the true sense, I have nothing against people who add value to the forum joining bounties but it's clear OP is a exclusive bounty user)



And that is relevant to your case because? Not to mention Yahoo is a DT who I've seen quite a few times tagging scammers and helping people out unlike a certain shitposter


Such as?


I suggest you start off with learning English, and learn the meaning of the word contribution. Clearly you have no clue what it means

You really don't have the idea what was exactly happened. I never contacted that user, I've never send him a PM, so can you show the proofs if you are a wise man?

Maybe, I talked to someone, a user in a group chat telegram with different name and not ANNbumpingneeded, so you get it now?

Do you think, joining bounty campaigns is not a contribution? How about campaigns manage by yahoo? And the services I have done in services section, in or out of PM. The ICO and projects that I had supported. The posts in threads where I share my thoughts and opinions, isn't a contribution?

I am not like you that needs other accounts to be used here.

Like once wise man said once: "It's not what you know, it's what you can prove."
Does not matter where you contacted him, as you still did.


His name said it, his title said it. It was all way clear that he was here to buy bumping service, but you still PM'd him. If you were too blind to see, i guess then too bad as that does not matter either.


Well that is subjective, as there is no clear definion for a "bad person". However you took your chances and got tagged, end of the the story.
And earning money is alright here, as long as it is done via legitimate way instead of creating fake hype and posting to get paid which is considered unethical here as you might know.

Also, where is this "Contribution" you are talking about, as i do not see much of contribution in your post history.

You don't know the story, it was in a telegram channel not here in forum via private message.
If I could knew that the purpose of the service is to bump ANN thread then I didn't participate. Is it hard to understand that I just engaged in the discussion by asking questions and not promote false review.

I noticed, having red and negative trust is being treated like a criminal, a bad person. I know most of us here want to make money, and me too while I'm learning and contribute in the community.

That does not matter, as i find that highly unlikely to believe. His name was ANNBumpingNeeded, i believe the title as well included that. There is no way out out of the red trust, move on.

As I remember, I didn't know that the service is about to bump ANN thread, I get involve cause I just post on that thread. Just because I post comments like asking questions and engaging to discussions, is it already a spam? And how they can say if its a spam if it is on topic?

How is it breaking the rules of the forum if a manager is engaging with the queries posted within the thread under his supervision? It is against the rules for others to bump the threads like how OP has been doing, but if a manager is doing his work and just because of his work (replying to questions and queries and all) the thread stays on top, I don't see that as a breakage of any rule.


I didn't say it in the way you took it. Quickseller said that there is nothing much difference in what OP has done and what Community Managers do, so I gave that example referring OP to be someone outside the staff and Community Managers to be the doctor. Now someone outside the team, doing a surgery, cannot just get in there and do the staff that a doctor is supposed to do.

The person associated with the ANN bumping service includes both. OP was getting paid for doing something that is not allowed on the forum according to rules and because it makes the ICO create a fake sense of popularity.
So both are equally responsible for their acts.

Community manager have some responsibility but they are not supposed to engage in breaking rules of the forum.

That is a very bad comparison. People who come here to shitpost have no qualifications like "number one shitposter group" or "scumlevel shitposter group" while in a hospital work is divided among the technicians nurses and the doctors and the staff so that the is mutual harmony among everybody in their work which is a completed in a methodical manner.

What is the difference between them you think?  Mysterious01 was offering the service to keep ANNs on top by regularly posting in them, and He had a list of users who would do those postings to keep bumping ANNs to get paid by Him (Mysterious01). Now OP (Text) was one of the users to do one or more than one posts in a thread by a way of engaging but with the purpose of bumping it only to complete his task and get paid for it. What is the very big difference in these two that you are talking about?


Community managers are given the responsibility of managing those threads. They don't just engage in there to keep their threads on top, but they do their work in the thread which they are supposed to do. You can't compare these two situations at all.
They won't just let you take charge of a surgery in an ICU as that is not your work and you are not allowed to do it. Now you can't say that if the doctor can do it, why can't I? 


That thing was abandoned later on when admins started to lock down the threads having such a rule in them. So we better live in present, without doing the things that are not allowed now but were done in the past.

The thread was opened by a "newbie" and clearly offering payment for bumping Ann threads. Applicants were warned by several members there but some nevertheless offered their services. It is the responsibility of each one of us to avoid those shady activities, not only of bounty/campaign managers.

I don't think that OP is the one who has the obligation to know whether the ICO is a scam or not as its more of a Bounty Manager's job, at least that the way I look at it. But you are right bumping services for their ANN thread can contribute to scam especially when you are just posting worthless things in order for their thread to stay on top. Some of the worst things I saw are just the words "bump", "up", or even "^" which doesn't really contribute anything to a thread.

mysterious01 was offering to artificially keep ANN threads on the 1st page via fake conversations within those threads, while the OP was offering his services to make a single post (or a very small number of posts) by way of engaging in a discussion with other users. I think there is a very big difference between these two things.

I don't think what the OP was engaging in is not all that different than what "community managers" are frequently paid to do.

I would also point out that in the past, users have been given incentives to post in the thread of what they are advertising. 

At first, why did they offer that kind of service if it not allowed?

I bump the thread cause I just posted a comment but I don't create such positive reviews to look it a legit one as like what they thought, I just post questions about the project to consider as entry, hope you understand. Is anyone got scammed from those ICO/s? So for me, I really don't deserve this red tagged.

Isn't that kind of bumping exactly why he got red tagged?

While what you said might be possible for other similarly tagged accounts let's just say OP dug his own grave



He pretty much admitted he did engage in bumping for pay so for this one I suppose the mark stays with no further debate on the validity for this claim. Now only defence he has is whether he can somehow magically convince the DTs to remove the trust for whatever reason

The screenshot was someone responding to an advertisement offering a payment up front if “proof” of accounts available to bump threads were provided. It would be possible that guy was giving a list of accounts he doesn’t control with the hopes of scamming the up front payment. I find it hard to believe this even needs to be said...

What further investigation do you think is needed if the guy mentions OP's name in the list of his thread bumpers?  Well, I don't think Mysterious01 had randomly chosen some users to put them in his list while dealing with someone as shown in the screenshot. OP must have been working for him, and that is why his name is in that list, and that is exactly why he was tagged. I don't see any complications in that. Besides, OP said it himself that he has done it and he is now sorry for it as it has been two months already. So there is no point in depending him as what he was doing was not decent for people of the community.


Well everyone have the right to make excuses. We are not supposed to take them seriously, are we? 

There is not anything besides that guy’s word that the OP is the same as that guy....

The screenshot might warrant further investigation to see if a connection can be made however it is not proof of anything.

The OP claims to have responded to bounties on telegram to ask questions about various ICOs.

Can you seriously not find OPs username in the list of Mysterious01's "Thread Bumpers" or you are just pretending not to?  
Well, let me guide you a bit in here. 13th username from the bottom is what you need to see from that screenshot, because that is the reason why he (OP) got his negative tag.

Mysterious01 was offering thread bumping services having users working under him. So he used to get-together users and pay them to bump particular threads, and he used to charge the OPs of those threads for this service. OP (Text) as we can see in the screenshot, was under his (Mysterious01's) payroll for doing so, like many other users.

Correct me if I am wrong, anyone.