Topic: $/MHS for Asic Miners is finally coming down - page 2. (Read 3043 times)

The GSD Blades are becoming even cheaper and are currently sitting at $940USD, but at Gawminers there is a ship date for the next batch of May 13th.  I can see these falling to $899USD soon.  Although the $/MH is still higher than a pre-order for say the high end LA, Hashra or Zeus miners, there is something to be said for receiving these miners a few weeks/month(s) earlier, and the obvious questions of whether they will deliver.  I have been badly burned in the past by pre-orders and will not ever do it again.  Everyone has their own calculations... as an example, with four of these blades you can currently make between 2.33 - 2.47 BTC/month, or about $1050/$1111 per month at current BTC/USD. 

Since we all believe in Crypto, you can then begin to project you mean income per month at different BTC/USD valuations.  The difference in the scrypt ASIC race and the SHA-256 ASIC race as I see it: scrypt ASICs have multipools and many different coins to point your miners at, allowing you to play swings on each coin and the difficulty is spread out across them.  Whereas SHA-256 ASICS were/are predominantly used to mine just one coin, BTC, and staying ahead of that difficulty is difficult.  Sure, a lot of folks will point their scrypt ASICs at LTC, however this practice will most likely not be the most profitable.

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my source tells me that the Hashra and Gawminer unit use Zues's chip which are still being tested, not stable and overheat.

we shall see.

Must admit what you said are in theory true.

but , please don't forget about the risks on pre-orders. most of the times, the manufacture strive to make the date, but it is not their call and sometime it is just tough shit, not anyone's fault. supply chain issue, unexpected problem with PCB board etc.

KnC is famous and kept their promise before, we don't even know if they will be able to keep their promise this time , but you don't think any of these smaller miner companies will be able to do that right?

I hope i only provide some useful infomation. if you feel it is a chance you should take, then, yes, by all means.

Just as a follow up

Gawminers is listing the new 27MH units with the 3 ship dates

5/26/14 for $4,199
6/2/14 for $3,899
6/9/14 for $3,499

of course the temptation is to pay the higher price based on potential lost revenue

Assuming you can keep the miner running 24x7 their assumption is that you will lose $300 (hence the difference in price) and they're pretty spot on

Using the calculator at coinwarz.com and using the coin that's about 4th or 5th down the list 27mh would gross you about $44/day or $308/week.

delay a week and lose $300 in income

pretty smart marketing if you ask me...

Hey JJJ,

Thanks for the thread

Yeah you are right the $ per MH/S go down,but I am happy to have mit Gridseed Blade running NOW. The point is to have the most MH/S the earliest you can get atm in my opinion.

I think waiting a bit is a good strategy Gawminers e.g. try to get you into their sales funnel by time pressure offers.

Falcon - 27 mhs - $3,499 = $129/mhs sounds for me for the best deal at the moment. But better wait a bit like two weeks and then buy it .. I don't believe they will be out of stock and maybe the price will drop more.

That's good info!  I have not seen that thread but I'll look it up.  I do my homework before ordering and avoid pre-orders.. just for the fact that there are delays and such..

I hope that guy is lucky and get his boxes on time, but LA has a fame of delivering not on time as promised but later.or worse, completely messing your order. It happened to me and many others -just read their thred- and I would never order anything from them again

Thats true!  I wonder if they will get a US based reseller at some point.   I know a guy was talking on the LTCRabbit shoutbox yesterday morning that he had ordered 3 of the lightning boxes.  He said he had talked to the owner and they gave him regular updates.  I personally have not delt with them but seemed like a cool looking product. 

I've seen their stuff too but there's something that scares me a little about those guys. I'm U.S. based and prefer to deal with companies where if they screw me at least I can go throw stones at their building and there's some comfort in dealing with gawminers since they're only 4 hours from my home.

The Zeus guys has been pretty evasize about their promises of free 80% mining with purchase - because I've contacted them and got no real answers. I'm fairly confident that they're real but something about them give me a level of uncomfort I can't explain...

their cyclone is a good deal - no doubt about it - hopefully they'll deliver something on schedule as promised.

thanks for that info - I'll take some time and show their cost per mhs in my original post here.

Thanks for the heads up!  I believe Zeus is around that sweet spot as well.   I don't think they ship until the end of the month tho.

http://zeusminer.com/

Zeusminer Blizzard 1.2Mh/s | S-Flex Portable Pro Scrypt ASIC Miner  $199
Zeusminer Cyclone 18Mh/s | S-Flex Blade Scrypt ASIC Miner  $2,999
Zeusminer Thunder 36Mh/s | S-Flex Blade Scrypt ASIC Miner  $5,500
Zeusminer Lightning 72Mh/s| S-Flex Blade Package Scrypt ASIC Miner set  $9,999

My biggest gripe has been that all Asic miners have been about $140 to $180/Mhs recently

10 weeks ago $199 for a gridseed at 360Khs was a good deal and I purchased 20. - they worked out to $600/Mhs and low power consumption compared to my GPU's

Then the gridseed blades hit the market 3 weeks ago and after they dropped the initial price from $3,000 down to $1600 that was a good deal: $307/Mhs

Then of course the announcements came from Mining Asics and KNC Miner for units that would be priced at about $96/Mhs which was awesome and then (thank God) KNC really upped the ante and announced they would double the Mhs of all their units and Mining Asics responded by offering a 2 for 1 deal which effectively dropped the price to $48/mhs - but they won't be coming until late July/Early August.

And last Thursday Hashra announced their new line of Asic miner that will delivered by June 12 and the price for their 30Mhs unit works out to about $151/Mhs

Well - it looks like they've been unseated already!

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This morning I see that gawminers.com has three new units coming out

http://www.gawminers.com/scrypt-miners
Backwidow 13mhs - $1,899 = $146/mhs
Falcon - 27 mhs - $3,499 = $129/mhs
War Machine : 54 mhs - $6,799 = $125/mhs
(personally for me there's not enough of a price difference between Falcon and War Machine to justify War Machine since I hate to put all my eggs into one basket)

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http://zeusminer.com/
Zeusminer Blizzard 1.2Mh/s | S-Flex Portable Pro Scrypt ASIC Miner  $199  = 165/mhs
Zeusminer Cyclone 18Mh/s | S-Flex Blade Scrypt ASIC Miner  $2,999 = $166/mhs
Zeusminer Thunder 36Mh/s | S-Flex Blade Scrypt ASIC Miner  $5,500 = $152/mhs
Zeusminer Lightning 72Mh/s| S-Flex Blade Package Scrypt ASIC Miner set  $9,999 = #138/mhs
Plus they're offering some free hosted MHS with each purchase but thy have yet to answer how long three free mhs will last nor when it will start
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http://hashra.com
Lunar Lander 1 : $2,520 | 15 mhs = $168/mhs
Lunar Lander 2 : $4,815 | 30 mhs = $160/mhs
Lunar Lander 4 : $8,955 | 60 Mhs = $149/mhs
Lunar Lander 6 : $13,410 | 90 mhs = $149/mhs
(I guess they didn't get the memo about giving you more for your money as you spend more )

ps: I've been communicating with a guy named Simon who works there and he's been very responsive
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http://lightningasic.com/index.aspx?type=3

LIGHTNINGASIC LA75M Scrypt Miner : $9,999 | 75 MHS = $133/mhs
LIGHTNINGASIC LA90M Scrypt Miner : $12,000 | 90 MHS = $133/mhs
(guess that also did not get the memo that says you get more when you pay more)

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this is all good news for us miners interested in Asic technology

I'd be surprised if  Hashra did not drop their prices and the Blades are suddenly totally uncompetitive price wise (but look for an announcement from them post haste

If you're ready to pre-order from them- I'd wait if I were you.

ps: I am not affiliated in any way with any of these companies. I'm just a miner.