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Topic: 🐁🐁MiceRace.com -The worlds first mouse racing gambling platform !🐁🐁 - page 12. (Read 2737 times)

legendary
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Mice race indeed something new for me and maybe this could be another option instead of horse racing or something else but f.a.q seems interesting for me when i read for withdrawal explanations that it says on the page When you've decided that you've had enough fun, you can head over to the withdraw page to withdraw your funds and actually what means of this because i didn't see limit amount to withdraw which mean this could be no minimum amount for withdraw or not
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I have been breaking my brain thinking how do we really turn this into a decentralized or provably fair game and I couldn't find anything reasonable. I thought about having cameras on the living spaces as well, that way we could know whats what with the mouses and constantly check them, never off-air they will always be in front of a camera and that would make it a bit more fair but if someone wants to meddle with it there could always be reasons and excuses to get them off camera even for couple seconds which is enough.

I thought about doing this in a more public way instead of just online so people would be there for being a witness but honestly how do we get the feedback on that, so this is just a game where the trust is key and nothing else is available in the fair situation.

Streaming them 24/7 I believe, is impractical at the moment. Trust is really the factor in play here. Even undergoing them for specific tests would not guarantee because the owner is holding those mice and their results as well. They really need to build trust from potential clients.
legendary
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I have been breaking my brain thinking how do we really turn this into a decentralized or provably fair game and I couldn't find anything reasonable. I thought about having cameras on the living spaces as well, that way we could know whats what with the mouses and constantly check them, never off-air they will always be in front of a camera and that would make it a bit more fair but if someone wants to meddle with it there could always be reasons and excuses to get them off camera even for couple seconds which is enough.

I thought about doing this in a more public way instead of just online so people would be there for being a witness but honestly how do we get the feedback on that, so this is just a game where the trust is key and nothing else is available in the fair situation.
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Decentralization should be considered deeply.
Hi OP, this is something interesting to look at and even I think a lot of people would consider, and if you got all the mice to be owned by people, then it's something like "decentralized" as in none of the competitors are owned by you, you only organize the games.
I like the idea to breed mice, and if some features like CryptoKitties with natural / crypto selections over time, over generations is a good way to develop the game.
Lifespan, in that aspect, I think that mice in the game should have lifespan, but randomly for each mice, not a fixed lifespan for all.
And, mice should be able match each other to generate new generations of mice.
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I have a few questions, what is the lifespan of the mice, and do you also breed them or how do you pick them to be suited for races? I think we could really do something useful for the space as long as we ensure ethical treatment.
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It is great to know all mouses are kept at the same conditions but unfortunately this is not something we can definitely test out. The difference between a digital gambling game and provably fair game is just that you let the trust to a machine instead of to the casino, with provably fair (just like the name suggests) you prove people its not rigged.

Now on horse games, it is totally out of owners hands and maybe some shady stuff goes down there too but in the end everyone is at a fair game against each other, here with the fact that you basically own the mouses (and even if you lease/sell because you control them) it can't be "technically" provably fair, we have to trust you. I have no idea what the solution would be but I know its a bit of a problem for people.

I think for now, trust is the only factor in play here. The owner/s of this gambling site should earn trust from the community by not giving us any single reason of inconsistency during the game. I know, it is vague for now. But what I mean is, hopefully we will not see any cheating tactic within the racing game. Because one mistake can ruin their reputation and that would be the end of their life in crypto gambling business.
legendary
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It is great to know all mouses are kept at the same conditions but unfortunately this is not something we can definitely test out. The difference between a digital gambling game and provably fair game is just that you let the trust to a machine instead of to the casino, with provably fair (just like the name suggests) you prove people its not rigged.

Now on horse games, it is totally out of owners hands and maybe some shady stuff goes down there too but in the end everyone is at a fair game against each other, here with the fact that you basically own the mouses (and even if you lease/sell because you control them) it can't be "technically" provably fair, we have to trust you. I have no idea what the solution would be but I know its a bit of a problem for people.
legendary
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maybe i used the provably fair aspect in different perspectives here but this is what im trying to say. how can you guarantee that a specific mouse is not receiving any additional treatment ? is there a way to test them, if theres any sort of test for mice?

What kind of treatment are you looking for? You mean like a specific mouse is being injected or fed with a performance drug?
Possibilities that a those 4 mices are well trained and knows how to work with the gambling owners, who knows but it's still possible
to happen,   really needs to play and enjoy trying your luck with small bets if you are interested to play with this types of gamble.
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What kind of treatment are you looking for? You mean like a specific mouse is being injected or fed with a performance drug?

maybe i used the provably fair aspect in different perspectives here but this is what im trying to say. how can you guarantee that a specific mouse is not receiving any additional treatment ? is there a way to test them, if theres any sort of test for mice?
How the gambling site turn out to be a place to discuss about medical therapies for mice?
I still don't know what you are discussing about because I did not play games on the MiceRace site, just found the site today.
If it relates to the game on MiceRace site, it sounds intersting and I might create account there to find out what it is myself.
legendary
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Hi Coinplus, and thanks for your comment. The mice are all kept in the same conditions and fed the same food. Also, mice behaviour is quite erratic which would in any event make it very hard to rig any races even if someone wanted to. We are very open to any suggestions on how to ensure fairness.

We are also toying with the option of leasing/selling mice to owners, so all the mice aren't owned by us, but very similar to horse racing, where you could possibly trade the mouse again at a later stage and earn some profit on that.

As mentioned we are just getting started and we are looking to improve and consider all suggestions to provide players with the most fun, fair mice betting site.

Hi OP, this is something interesting to look at and even I think a lot of people would consider, and if you got all the mice to be owned by people, then it's something like "decentralized" as in none of the competitors are owned by you, you only organize the games.

I have a few questions, what is the lifespan of the mice, and do you also breed them or how do you pick them to be suited for races? I think we could really do something useful for the space as long as we ensure ethical treatment.
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maybe i used the provably fair aspect in different perspectives here but this is what im trying to say. how can you guarantee that a specific mouse is not receiving any additional treatment ? is there a way to test them, if theres any sort of test for mice?

What kind of treatment are you looking for? You mean like a specific mouse is being injected or fed with a performance drug?
legendary
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I think we can't make sure if it is provably fair in a casino system way but we can make sure if it is provably fair in a way that one mouse doesn't get streoid version of what mouses get for example. Just to give an example after every horse race the horses are forced to pee in order to check at the labs and see if they were given anything suspicious or not.

Now horses are owned by different people who all come together to race against each other and they try to win in order to make money. However all of these mouses are owned by the same people, so for them whoever wins there is really not a big difference to them, it looks like its just a small operation of a guy who owns many rats and that is it.

In order to make sure the game doesn't cheat us we need to get different mouse owners racing their own mouses against each other, that would be at least more reliable.

maybe i used the provably fair aspect in different perspectives here but this is what im trying to say. how can you guarantee that a specific mouse is not receiving any additional treatment ? is there a way to test them, if theres any sort of test for mice?
legendary
Activity: 3122
Merit: 1140
I think we can't make sure if it is provably fair in a casino system way but we can make sure if it is provably fair in a way that one mouse doesn't get streoid version of what mouses get for example. Just to give an example after every horse race the horses are forced to pee in order to check at the labs and see if they were given anything suspicious or not.

Now horses are owned by different people who all come together to race against each other and they try to win in order to make money. However all of these mouses are owned by the same people, so for them whoever wins there is really not a big difference to them, it looks like its just a small operation of a guy who owns many rats and that is it.

In order to make sure the game doesn't cheat us we need to get different mouse owners racing their own mouses against each other, that would be at least more reliable.
Now that you mention it maybe we couldn't really tell if they are cheating or not ,
After all the site owner could also bet on the mouse and they could just make it looks like that this is fair.
And make the other mouse lock up or their track doesn't have an end.

Hi xvids, and thanks for your comment. Please see our reply to Coinplus regarding your concerns.
I just want to suggest that make the race track visible with all of the runners(mouse).
And a clear view of them running live,A shot from the top angle so that we could see them run clear in the race track.
So we could make sure that it is fair for all if you could remember the toy Tamiya race car I suggest use the same race track like that .

We currently have cameras in each lane as well as a camera with a view of the entire track. Are you saying the visibility is not good enough? We are looking at getting better cameras soon. We know there are a lot of things that we can improve and we are taking in all the feedback in order to provide you with the best possible user experience.

Regards Smiley
Camera image is somehow blur but still considerable yet it can really give out clear image of the mice but it would be better if its more cleared and more broader so
we can see the entire racetrack together with those mice- same as said above. About Tamiya similar racetrack, it would be also a good idea on having this track rather than on
straight line but this will surely cost some penny though but would really add up some thrill.
copper member
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I think we can't make sure if it is provably fair in a casino system way but we can make sure if it is provably fair in a way that one mouse doesn't get streoid version of what mouses get for example. Just to give an example after every horse race the horses are forced to pee in order to check at the labs and see if they were given anything suspicious or not.

Now horses are owned by different people who all come together to race against each other and they try to win in order to make money. However all of these mouses are owned by the same people, so for them whoever wins there is really not a big difference to them, it looks like its just a small operation of a guy who owns many rats and that is it.

In order to make sure the game doesn't cheat us we need to get different mouse owners racing their own mouses against each other, that would be at least more reliable.
Now that you mention it maybe we couldn't really tell if they are cheating or not ,
After all the site owner could also bet on the mouse and they could just make it looks like that this is fair.
And make the other mouse lock up or their track doesn't have an end.
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Hi xvids, and thanks for your comment. Please see our reply to Coinplus regarding your concerns.
I just want to suggest that make the race track visible with all of the runners(mouse).
And a clear view of them running live,A shot from the top angle so that we could see them run clear in the race track.
So we could make sure that it is fair for all if you could remember the toy Tamiya race car I suggest use the same race track like that .

We currently have cameras in each lane as well as a camera with a view of the entire track. Are you saying the visibility is not good enough? We are looking at getting better cameras soon. We know there are a lot of things that we can improve and we are taking in all the feedback in order to provide you with the best possible user experience.

Regards Smiley
sr. member
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I think we can't make sure if it is provably fair in a casino system way but we can make sure if it is provably fair in a way that one mouse doesn't get streoid version of what mouses get for example. Just to give an example after every horse race the horses are forced to pee in order to check at the labs and see if they were given anything suspicious or not.

Now horses are owned by different people who all come together to race against each other and they try to win in order to make money. However all of these mouses are owned by the same people, so for them whoever wins there is really not a big difference to them, it looks like its just a small operation of a guy who owns many rats and that is it.

In order to make sure the game doesn't cheat us we need to get different mouse owners racing their own mouses against each other, that would be at least more reliable.
Now that you mention it maybe we couldn't really tell if they are cheating or not ,
After all the site owner could also bet on the mouse and they could just make it looks like that this is fair.
And make the other mouse lock up or their track doesn't have an end.
[/qu

Hi xvids, and thanks for your comment. Please see our reply to Coinplus regarding your concerns.
I just want to suggest that make the race track visible with all of the runners(mouse).
And a clear view of them running live,A shot from the top angle so that we could see them run clear in the race track.
So we could make sure that it is fair for all if you could remember the toy Tamiya race car I suggest use the same race track like that .
copper member
Activity: 52
Merit: 13
I think we can't make sure if it is provably fair in a casino system way but we can make sure if it is provably fair in a way that one mouse doesn't get streoid version of what mouses get for example. Just to give an example after every horse race the horses are forced to pee in order to check at the labs and see if they were given anything suspicious or not.

Now horses are owned by different people who all come together to race against each other and they try to win in order to make money. However all of these mouses are owned by the same people, so for them whoever wins there is really not a big difference to them, it looks like its just a small operation of a guy who owns many rats and that is it.

In order to make sure the game doesn't cheat us we need to get different mouse owners racing their own mouses against each other, that would be at least more reliable.
Now that you mention it maybe we couldn't really tell if they are cheating or not ,
After all the site owner could also bet on the mouse and they could just make it looks like that this is fair.
And make the other mouse lock up or their track doesn't have an end.
[/qu

Hi xvids, and thanks for your comment. Please see our reply to Coinplus regarding your concerns.
copper member
Activity: 52
Merit: 13
I think we can't make sure if it is provably fair in a casino system way but we can make sure if it is provably fair in a way that one mouse doesn't get streoid version of what mouses get for example. Just to give an example after every horse race the horses are forced to pee in order to check at the labs and see if they were given anything suspicious or not.

Now horses are owned by different people who all come together to race against each other and they try to win in order to make money. However all of these mouses are owned by the same people, so for them whoever wins there is really not a big difference to them, it looks like its just a small operation of a guy who owns many rats and that is it.

In order to make sure the game doesn't cheat us we need to get different mouse owners racing their own mouses against each other, that would be at least more reliable.

Hi Coinplus, and thanks for your comment. The mice are all kept in the same conditions and fed the same food. Also, mice behaviour is quite erratic which would in any event make it very hard to rig any races even if someone wanted to. We are very open to any suggestions on how to ensure fairness.

We are also toying with the option of leasing/selling mice to owners, so all the mice aren't owned by us, but very similar to horse racing, where you could possibly trade the mouse again at a later stage and earn some profit on that.

As mentioned we are just getting started and we are looking to improve and consider all suggestions to provide players with the most fun, fair mice betting site.
copper member
Activity: 52
Merit: 13
I think you should lessen the minimum amount for the small players because not everyone could try it out at that amount.
There are gamblers who just plays with a small capital so I think you should also consider them just to attract more gamblers at your site.
I think it wouldn't affect anything who knows maybe there would be more gamblers when you lessen the minimum amount.

The limits currently implemented are to ensure fairness while we are still only doing Pool Betting. We are working very hard at implementing fixed odds and combo betting soon. Once this is implemented there will be no minimum and the maximum bet will also be increased.
sr. member
Activity: 1176
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I think we can't make sure if it is provably fair in a casino system way but we can make sure if it is provably fair in a way that one mouse doesn't get streoid version of what mouses get for example. Just to give an example after every horse race the horses are forced to pee in order to check at the labs and see if they were given anything suspicious or not.

Now horses are owned by different people who all come together to race against each other and they try to win in order to make money. However all of these mouses are owned by the same people, so for them whoever wins there is really not a big difference to them, it looks like its just a small operation of a guy who owns many rats and that is it.

In order to make sure the game doesn't cheat us we need to get different mouse owners racing their own mouses against each other, that would be at least more reliable.
Now that you mention it maybe we couldn't really tell if they are cheating or not ,
After all the site owner could also bet on the mouse and they could just make it looks like that this is fair.
And make the other mouse lock up or their track doesn't have an end.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1058
I think we can't make sure if it is provably fair in a casino system way but we can make sure if it is provably fair in a way that one mouse doesn't get streoid version of what mouses get for example. Just to give an example after every horse race the horses are forced to pee in order to check at the labs and see if they were given anything suspicious or not.

Now horses are owned by different people who all come together to race against each other and they try to win in order to make money. However all of these mouses are owned by the same people, so for them whoever wins there is really not a big difference to them, it looks like its just a small operation of a guy who owns many rats and that is it.

In order to make sure the game doesn't cheat us we need to get different mouse owners racing their own mouses against each other, that would be at least more reliable.
sr. member
Activity: 1176
Merit: 301
I think you should lessen the minimum amount for the small players because not everyone could try it out at that amount.
There are gamblers who just plays with a small capital so I think you should also consider them just to attract more gamblers at your site.
I think it wouldn't affect anything who knows maybe there would be more gamblers when you lessen the minimum amount.
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