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April 26, 2012, 04:59:25 PM
#35
Just one totally different thought about the naming of the new "Crypto""currency":

So... maybe RS wasnt as retarded when naming his new chain as we thought.. Basically we all pay in ONE BITCOIN or ONE LITECOIN or even ONE SOLIDCOIN.
Looking at the past months of unsuccesful economical changes in Solidcoin people can only send arround 0.00x Solidcoins - due to the fact that almost all coins are distributed throughout some major investors and miners dont earn shit.
So.. for the first time i actually believe that Realsolid had a good idea! He finally understood that everyone is just sending extremely small amounts of coins when using chain and hence didnt introduce centislc or millislc - he went right at the point at which people will spend this: MICROSLC. Unfortunately Microslc might be mistakingly refering to and blockchain older than 3 months and hence already outdated. Therefore he introduced a revolutionary new name: CASH! Adding Micro to it was finally the option to make it easier for people to use it..

So Microcash is not a bone-dead stupid reference to Microsoft and therefore yet another insight into RealSolids egomanic mind.. no Microcash is saving TIME for people since it is just a substitute for microSolidcoin (1x10^-6 Solidcoins)
So instead of saying "I send you Oh point zero zero zero zero zero zero five two Solidcoins" they can refer to it now as "I send you Oh point five two Microcash". Try it yourself - you will save at least a few seconds. Keyboards will also live longer since you type less using the new nomenclature.. and of course it will add some good feeling for Miners. When they see their payouts they can feel like "Man, i did good." - as long as they dont look at the 12mil SLC accounts of other people.. The amount of zeroes before the decimal point would be too horrific to just let them pass... but since these coins are on just a hand full of accounts it wont be too often seeable..


So thanks to his Führermajesty RealSolid for yet another great idea that will revelutionise the crypto currency realm! First you introduced centralisation into distributed applications, then you added taxes to a feeless system and we still remember your closed open sourceness! So here we have it - no longer juggling with large numbers when you can just say its real name! When will we see him reinventing addresses? I think a 8 bit binary should soon be enough to reference all possible and foreseeable accounts of microcashs future.. One address for every user...
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April 26, 2012, 02:07:13 PM
#34
Looks fine here guys.

Also aren't many of you who criticized many decisions in SolidCoin v2 happy that the developers listened to most of it and removed the stuff or found alternate solutions?

No trust accounts. No trust nodes. Do you guys always need something to whinge about or is it just a hobby?

You need to stop talking for the company and hire a PR guy.  Don't make the same mistake twice.

He probably can't tell that he is making a mistake. The Coinhunter account most likely has 2/3rds of this forum on ignore turning every thread into a miniature echo chamber for SoiledCoin groupies (both of them). That is the problem with pruning criticism via username, eventually you only get what you want to hear.

This also makes for a poor foundation for the discussion of a currencies strengths and weaknesses.

That is a very funny thought.

(login to bitcointalk.org as SOILEDHISPANTS)
(HIT THE ULTIMATE IGNORE BUTTON)
(LIVE LIKE A KING IN ALL YOUR EGO AND SELF_GLORIFICATION)



LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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April 25, 2012, 09:53:33 PM
#33
Looks fine here guys.

Also aren't many of you who criticized many decisions in SolidCoin v2 happy that the developers listened to most of it and removed the stuff or found alternate solutions?

No trust accounts. No trust nodes. Do you guys always need something to whinge about or is it just a hobby?

You need to stop talking for the company and hire a PR guy.  Don't make the same mistake twice.

He probably can't tell that he is making a mistake. The Coinhunter account most likely has 2/3rds of this forum on ignore turning every thread into a miniature echo chamber for SoiledCoin groupies (both of them). That is the problem with pruning criticism via username, eventually you only get what you want to hear.

This also makes for a poor foundation for the discussion of a currencies strengths and weaknesses.

Agreed.
legendary
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April 25, 2012, 09:51:29 PM
#32
Looks fine here guys.

Also aren't many of you who criticized many decisions in SolidCoin v2 happy that the developers listened to most of it and removed the stuff or found alternate solutions?

No trust accounts. No trust nodes. Do you guys always need something to whinge about or is it just a hobby?

You need to stop talking for the company and hire a PR guy.  Don't make the same mistake twice.

He probably can't tell that he is making a mistake. The Coinhunter account most likely has 2/3rds of this forum on ignore turning every thread into a miniature echo chamber for SoiledCoin groupies (both of them). That is the problem with pruning criticism via username, eventually you only get what you want to hear.

This also makes for a poor foundation for the discussion of a currencies strengths and weaknesses.
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April 25, 2012, 09:43:53 PM
#31
Looks fine here guys.

Also aren't many of you who criticized many decisions in SolidCoin v2 happy that the developers listened to most of it and removed the stuff or found alternate solutions?

No trust accounts. No trust nodes. Do you guys always need something to whinge about or is it just a hobby?

You need to stop talking for the company and hire a PR guy.  Don't make the same mistake twice.

Didn't you know. There are multiple people that use the COINHUNTER account. Perhaps he has hired someone to pose as him yet he is still failing despite that.

LOL
Vod
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April 25, 2012, 09:32:32 PM
#30
Looks fine here guys.

Also aren't many of you who criticized many decisions in SolidCoin v2 happy that the developers listened to most of it and removed the stuff or found alternate solutions?

No trust accounts. No trust nodes. Do you guys always need something to whinge about or is it just a hobby?

You need to stop talking for the company and hire a PR guy.  Don't make the same mistake twice.
legendary
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April 25, 2012, 09:19:32 PM
#29
Every day every account takes a half cent (0.005) to cover the operational costs

Can you elaborate on the meaning of "operational costs", given that in a P2P currency, every participant shares the costs (basically just bandwidth, and my own at that) equally already?  And, where exactly will this half cent per day go - not in the abstract sense, but in the "0.005MC transferred from account ABC to account XYZ" sense - To what does that XYZ refer?

(And guys, c'mon, let him actually answer instead of mocking him - The petty, nonstop bickering really sucks most of the fun out of all this)

What matter what explanation Coinhunter gives at this point? It will change as soon as it suits Coinhunter to do so.
At this point, Rapecash is only an idea.
Wait for the source code and the license terms. Examine them. Then decide.
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April 25, 2012, 07:32:28 PM
#28
Every day every account takes a half cent (0.005) to cover the operational costs

Can you elaborate on the meaning of "operational costs", given that in a P2P currency, every participant shares the costs (basically just bandwidth, and my own at that) equally already?  And, where exactly will this half cent per day go - not in the abstract sense, but in the "0.005MC transferred from account ABC to account XYZ" sense - To what does that XYZ refer?

(And guys, c'mon, let him actually answer instead of mocking him - The petty, nonstop bickering really sucks most of the fun out of all this)

For about 9 months we have let these fools explain their SOILEDSHITCOIN and its a bunch of bull....
pla
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April 25, 2012, 06:20:23 PM
#27
Every day every account takes a half cent (0.005) to cover the operational costs

Can you elaborate on the meaning of "operational costs", given that in a P2P currency, every participant shares the costs (basically just bandwidth, and my own at that) equally already?  And, where exactly will this half cent per day go - not in the abstract sense, but in the "0.005MC transferred from account ABC to account XYZ" sense - To what does that XYZ refer?

(And guys, c'mon, let him actually answer instead of mocking him - The petty, nonstop bickering really sucks most of the fun out of all this)
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April 25, 2012, 03:34:00 PM
#26
Looks fine here guys.

Also aren't many of you who criticized many decisions in SolidCoin v2 happy that the developers listened to most of it and removed the stuff or found alternate solutions?

No trust accounts. No trust nodes. Do you guys always need something to whinge about or is it just a hobby?

This is definitely a different Coinhunter "operator" as the Real Coinhunter never spoke like this or could be this civil.



+1... Need we say more. Multiple operators of a single account is shady in itself.

Keep away from AssCoin = ScamCoin = ShitCoin = SolidShit = SoiledShit = RealSolidShit = CoinShitHuner = Solidcoin = MicroRASH!!!!  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

How many times do I have to tell you people... SolidCoin is not ScamCoin and neither is MicroCash.

ScamCoin is ScamCoin!!

That's your problem you DONT have to tell us. We don't care what you say. We are calling it how we have seen it from day one when CH/RS came on the scene. It's a bunch of BS.
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April 25, 2012, 08:52:55 AM
#25
 Undecided scamcoin=solidcoin=microcash
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April 24, 2012, 10:49:49 PM
#24
Looks fine here guys.

Also aren't many of you who criticized many decisions in SolidCoin v2 happy that the developers listened to most of it and removed the stuff or found alternate solutions?

No trust accounts. No trust nodes. Do you guys always need something to whinge about or is it just a hobby?

This is definitely a different Coinhunter "operator" as the Real Coinhunter never spoke like this or could be this civil.



+1... Need we say more. Multiple operators of a single account is shady in itself.

Keep away from AssCoin = ScamCoin = ShitCoin = SolidShit = SoiledShit = RealSolidShit = CoinShitHuner = Solidcoin = MicroRASH!!!!  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

How many times do I have to tell you people... SolidCoin is not ScamCoin and neither is MicroCash.

ScamCoin is ScamCoin!!
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April 24, 2012, 10:06:57 PM
#23
Looks fine here guys.

Also aren't many of you who criticized many decisions in SolidCoin v2 happy that the developers listened to most of it and removed the stuff or found alternate solutions?

No trust accounts. No trust nodes. Do you guys always need something to whinge about or is it just a hobby?

This is definitely a different Coinhunter "operator" as the Real Coinhunter never spoke like this or could be this civil.



+1... Need we say more. Multiple operators of a single account is shady in itself.

Keep away from AssCoin = ScamCoin = ShitCoin = SolidShit = SoiledShit = RealSolidShit = CoinShitHuner = Solidcoin = MicroRASH!!!!  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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April 24, 2012, 08:28:01 PM
#22
Ok you think bitcoin is not a pyramid scheme, that's fine. But are you denying the block reward for bitcoin cuts in half over time to eventually reach a low of 0?

That is exactly what Bitcoin does, and has done since the very first day it was released more than 3 years ago. There have been absolutely zero changes to the block reward. It is that trust that has been built over time that makes Bitcoin successful.

Answer this: How many times has SolidCoin changed the reward scheme?

Pyramid scheme, bait-and-switch, pump-and-dump, I not sure which scam term is most accurate of SolidCoin, but make no mistake, SolidCoin is very much a scam designed to benefit early adapters at the expense of later adopters.

You have a good point Syke in regards to the amount of times SolidCoin has changed. Change is both a good and bad thing, SolidCoin changed a lot so now that they've got something they think they can work with they've decided to create a new brand to represent it. The next version will be very hard to do any changes to, a lot like Bitcoin so we should see some stability in regards to chain features.

The fact Bitcoin hasn't changed much at all since 2009 is good like you said, but it's also bad. There are compromises made and everyone supporting Bitcoin is supporting a single persons choices he made in 2008-2009. Most of us already know many of those decisions haven't stood the test of time, but Bitcoin still sticks to its guns and people can trust that more than something that changes a lot like SolidCoin. However please don't confuse the fact Bitcoin hasn't changed to mean it's perfect or that it's reward system isn't shaped to favor early adopters, these are facts, no one can dispute them. Whether or not the decision to stick to these things will favor Bitcoin we have to wait and see, I guess when the reward cuts in half we will see how new people handle the fact they aren't getting 50 BTC per block anymore. Smiley
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April 24, 2012, 05:42:19 PM
#21
Ok you think bitcoin is not a pyramid scheme, that's fine. But are you denying the block reward for bitcoin cuts in half over time to eventually reach a low of 0?

That is exactly what Bitcoin does, and has done since the very first day it was released more than 3 years ago. There have been absolutely zero changes to the block reward. It is that trust that has been built over time that makes Bitcoin successful.

Answer this: How many times has SolidCoin changed the reward scheme?

Pyramid scheme, bait-and-switch, pump-and-dump, I not sure which scam term is most accurate of SolidCoin, but make no mistake, SolidCoin is very much a scam designed to benefit early adapters at the expense of later adopters.

Without the CPF, the tyrant nodes, and the shrinking reward for mined blocks. SoiledCoin would not be a pyramid scheme. It would just be a craptastic knockoff of Bitcoin.
legendary
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April 24, 2012, 05:35:41 PM
#20
Ok you think bitcoin is not a pyramid scheme, that's fine. But are you denying the block reward for bitcoin cuts in half over time to eventually reach a low of 0?

That is exactly what Bitcoin does, and has done since the very first day it was released more than 3 years ago. There have been absolutely zero changes to the block reward. It is that trust that has been built over time that makes Bitcoin successful.

Answer this: How many times has SolidCoin changed the reward scheme?

Pyramid scheme, bait-and-switch, pump-and-dump, I not sure which scam term is most accurate of SolidCoin, but make no mistake, SolidCoin is very much a scam designed to benefit early adapters at the expense of later adopters.
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April 24, 2012, 10:10:04 AM
#19
Code:
Bitcoin Block Rewards
      00
     *01*
    **03**
   ***06***
  ****12****
 *****25*****
******50******

 Shocked
legendary
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April 24, 2012, 09:52:30 AM
#18
Hey look. It is Coinhunter here to flog his latest scheme.
We were right about the first one even though Coinhunter said we were all just trolls.
We were right about the second one even though Coinhunter said we were all just trolls.
We are right about the third one, hey look Coinhunter is calling us a bunch of trolls.
The wheels of the shortbus go round and round...
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April 24, 2012, 09:38:59 AM
#17
Not to be a "hater" bro, your math is terrible.

Yeah true, shoulda stuck to the bottom 50% paying the top 50% like I said to you before, which it is, but it ain't gonna mean much to anybody but the top few.

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100000 * 0.005 microcash (daily half cent fee) = 500 microcash total in fees

Now funny thing about that 100,000 number. It's actually 86k so let's go from there. 30k accounts will be gone in the first day. http://www.solidtools.net/addresses.php?page=1132
Another 40k or so more will be gone in the first three weeks. http://www.solidtools.net/addresses.php?page=278
13k * 0.005 = 65 microcash total in fees. Which means in three weeks you'll need ~215 coins to break even. That's the top 600. 600/13,000 = 4.5%. 95.5% paying the 4.5%. (and the top 12 get the majority of that, my bad)
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April 24, 2012, 09:11:18 AM
#16
MicroCash is a pyramid scheme because it steals from the poor to give to the rich. Bitcoin doesn't steal from anyone, and the block rewards are payed from a fixed and limited supply to those who take the time and effort to secure the network. It is not a pyramid scheme.

Ok you think bitcoin is not a pyramid scheme, that's fine. But are you denying the block reward for bitcoin cuts in half over time to eventually reach a low of 0? Doesn't this mean if you mine at 50 BTC per block you are getting more than the guys you bring in to Bitcoin when it's 0 per block? Unless my math fails me, 50 is greater than 0.
Your math failed to teach you about addition. Miners receive transaction fees in addition to the block reward.

So every time a Bitcoin user educates his friends and family about Bitcoin, he is doing so under the guise that soon there will be less Bitcoin made, benefiting the early adopter who was mining at 50 bitcoins a block.
Irrelevant. He mines 50 bitcoins a block whether he gets other people involved or not, because the block reward isn't stolen from other users.

Again, unless my math fails me it seems like the people who get in earlier in Bitcoin make more coins, and by encouraging more people in, those new people make less coins giving greater value to the first coins.....
Yup, your math fails you again. Encouraging new people in has no effect whatsoever on the block reward.

Of course Bitcoin isn't a pyramid scheme, I was just kidding around there friend. If anything is a pyramid scheme it's MicroCash, where fees are equally distributed back to the chain depending on the amount of MicroCash in them. If anything screams pyramid to me, it's a blockchain where fees are redistributed proportionally to the amount of MicroCash you have.
There you have it folks, he admits the whole thing's a pyramid scheme. Can we go now?

Thanks for clearing it up for us.
Glad to be of service. Grin
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