Microstrategy just bought more bitcoin on yesterday. They have bought $15million or equivalent with 253 bitcoin with $59,339 for each bitcoin.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.coindesk.com/microstrategy-buys-15m-more-of-bitcoin%3famp=1
Do you think $59,339 is too high? It's not for Microstrategy.
Topic: Microstrategy keep buying bitcoin. How if they become the biggest BTC HODLer? (Read 481 times)
April 05, 2021, 10:06:35 PM
March 23, 2021, 09:58:42 PM
Until this day, Microstrategy keep buying bitcoin. Recently, they even bought $15million equivalent with 262 bitcoins at @$57,146 so it makes Microstrategy HODL total 91,326 btc
https://cryptopotato.com/another-purchase-microstrategy-bought-262-more-bitcoins-for-15-million/
As the biggest public company HODL bitcoin for now, What do you think about their action?
I would like to hear all opinion from any HODLers and Weak Hands about this.
Good for them I guess? Bitcoin can be bought by anyone and if a private company is smart enough to do this at large quantities then that is fine, I am sure many weak hands and people that will have to buy bitcoin for a fortune in the future are going to complain about the low price Microstrategy paid for some many coins but it was their fault for not buying bitcoin earlier, bitcoin gave a decade to people so they could buy it for a price below 5 figures, if they did not took advantage of it then that is their problem. https://cryptopotato.com/another-purchase-microstrategy-bought-262-more-bitcoins-for-15-million/
As the biggest public company HODL bitcoin for now, What do you think about their action?
I would like to hear all opinion from any HODLers and Weak Hands about this.
March 23, 2021, 09:13:38 PM
The biggest question is at what price will Microstrategy and Tesla dump their bitcoins 
I do really want to be optimistic with these companies continuously buying Bitcoins but on the other hand, they aren't different from the average investors out there who are buying it because of profit. Company's future?? For the future of the company?? Fuck off. They will sell at anytime they feel they need to. There is no investor in this world that will hold their holdings forever. I saw some comments here saying that they will hold hold for the company. I don't think that they will hold it forever or at least in the next years. There will be a time that they alongside other average investors out there will sell if not all then most of their holdings just to have profits. If MicroStrategy will keep buying Bitcoin then ok. If they will be the biggest BTC holder then ok. Is it significant for us?? In the end they will sell when the right time comes.
You clearly haven't been paying attention to what Michael Saylor has been saying. Bitcoin is their treasury reserve asset. It is what they hold their balance sheet in. There is no selling. It'd be like asking when is some other company gonna sell all their USD. Question doesn't even make sense. They aren't investing in Bitcoin, they are holding it are their treasury asset. It is their base currency. There's nothing to sell to. Listen to the things Saylor has been saying the past 6 months or so if you think otherwise.
March 22, 2021, 09:01:46 AM
I was so confused about where they got the money to continue buying Bitcoin, that I was afraid they would use the borrowed money to buy Bitcoin.
Hopefully my guess is wrong, because if it is true this will be very dangerous for the future. By becoming the biggest BTC HODLer, Microstrategy
has become whales and is able to manipulate prices, because it is very dangerous if suddenly Microstrategy make Bitcoin dump.
These are institutional investors and they will be sourcing money by investors who are interested in investing in bitcoin and they will source the money and invest again. Who is making a decision to invest depends upon the financial analyst they are having because it is a high risk investment and they are one the biggest holders of bitcoin in recent times and they could manipulate the market if they decide to sell the coins. Hopefully my guess is wrong, because if it is true this will be very dangerous for the future. By becoming the biggest BTC HODLer, Microstrategy
has become whales and is able to manipulate prices, because it is very dangerous if suddenly Microstrategy make Bitcoin dump.
March 22, 2021, 04:22:24 AM
There is a lot of room for much greater profit...so why dump when there is right in front of their hands the deal of the millenium.
If there were the average traders or what so ever they would minidumps to lower the price and gather more BTC (or whatever)....but this carries a risk ...if they try to exploit the Crypto market they might get it to crumble...so they buy in ridiculus high price to maintain the momentum.
There is also the fact that when they are making money, they will keep holding it and if there is a depression and prices of things go up and markets crash, bitcoin could be still going higher, and that is why they could be investing into bitcoin and not selling it.If there were the average traders or what so ever they would minidumps to lower the price and gather more BTC (or whatever)....but this carries a risk ...if they try to exploit the Crypto market they might get it to crumble...so they buy in ridiculus high price to maintain the momentum.
Let's assume that something like 2008 happened again, markets crash, stocks go down, gold and oil goes up, there is a big turmoil, there needs to be trillions printed again, who gains profit from this? Bitcoin does, sure stocks will go back up as well but you would be in bitcoin way before and stocks would go down and back up while bitcoin just goes up and up and up, so that is why these companies will keep holding even on the worst days and they are holding on the best days as well, there is no reason for them to end up selling their coins, not right now, maybe if they have a reason to sell individually because of some money need.
A really clever investor would still try to sell the swing highs on BTCUSD. Maybe not with all of his positions, but still with ... 30% of the total BTC stack. How can you buy the dip, if you dont have any money on the side? And big players think way more longterm as us traders do. so for them, the dont need to get filled with their positions right away, the have time. they would not buy all at the same point neihter, they would always try to get their orders filled in a range, so at one point, its their position that makes price leave the range to one side.
Also, if a bank crash or a 2007/08 would happen again, I am sure there would be some cash flowing into BTCUSD, but once anaysts could see stocks might be rising again soon, there will also be a decent cashflow away from BTCUSD, to paticipate in Stocks again.
March 20, 2021, 02:43:13 AM
There is a lot of room for much greater profit...so why dump when there is right in front of their hands the deal of the millenium.
If there were the average traders or what so ever they would minidumps to lower the price and gather more BTC (or whatever)....but this carries a risk ...if they try to exploit the Crypto market they might get it to crumble...so they buy in ridiculus high price to maintain the momentum.
There is also the fact that when they are making money, they will keep holding it and if there is a depression and prices of things go up and markets crash, bitcoin could be still going higher, and that is why they could be investing into bitcoin and not selling it.If there were the average traders or what so ever they would minidumps to lower the price and gather more BTC (or whatever)....but this carries a risk ...if they try to exploit the Crypto market they might get it to crumble...so they buy in ridiculus high price to maintain the momentum.
Let's assume that something like 2008 happened again, markets crash, stocks go down, gold and oil goes up, there is a big turmoil, there needs to be trillions printed again, who gains profit from this? Bitcoin does, sure stocks will go back up as well but you would be in bitcoin way before and stocks would go down and back up while bitcoin just goes up and up and up, so that is why these companies will keep holding even on the worst days and they are holding on the best days as well, there is no reason for them to end up selling their coins, not right now, maybe if they have a reason to sell individually because of some money need.
March 19, 2021, 07:02:19 AM
In the end, its all about money. No matter what anyone tells you. All the rich hodlers now, if they would really need to sell their stack of BTCUSD they would do so. For medical reasons, or for other serious reasons.
March 19, 2021, 06:56:52 AM
The biggest question is at what price will Microstrategy and Tesla dump their bitcoins
I do really want to be optimistic with these companies continuously buying Bitcoins but on the other hand, they aren't different from the average investors out there who are buying it because of profit. Company's future?? For the future of the company?? Fuck off. They will sell at anytime they feel they need to. There is no investor in this world that will hold their holdings forever. I saw some comments here saying that they will hold hold for the company. I don't think that they will hold it forever or at least in the next years. There will be a time that they alongside other average investors out there will sell if not all then most of their holdings just to have profits. If MicroStrategy will keep buying Bitcoin then ok. If they will be the biggest BTC holder then ok. Is it significant for us?? In the end they will sell when the right time comes.
March 19, 2021, 05:44:52 AM
The biggest question is at what price will Microstrategy and Tesla dump their bitcoins
They will sell when the time is right Do you remember the Lehmann Brother and Great Depression...it will be much much worse
These companies will secure their funds in terms of crypto as they believe this is the future currency and they have established their position now.
If they will plan to Pump and Dump then they had do the action from the past and not now that the value is increasing too high than what is the price back in 2018-2020.
If there were the average traders or what so ever they would minidumps to lower the price and gather more BTC (or whatever)....but this carries a risk ...if they try to exploit the Crypto market they might get it to crumble...so they buy in ridiculus high price to maintain the momentum.
March 19, 2021, 05:37:51 AM
The biggest question is at what price will Microstrategy and Tesla dump their bitcoins
They will sell when the time is right Do you remember the Lehmann Brother and Great Depression...it will be much much worse
These companies will secure their funds in terms of crypto as they believe this is the future currency and they have established their position now.
If they will plan to Pump and Dump then they had do the action from the past and not now that the value is increasing too high than what is the price back in 2018-2020.
March 19, 2021, 04:59:44 AM
The biggest question is at what price will Microstrategy and Tesla dump their bitcoins
They will sell when the time is right Do you remember the Lehmann Brother and Great Depression...it will be much much worse
March 18, 2021, 10:36:47 PM
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As the biggest public company HODL bitcoin for now, What do you think about their action?
HODL stronger of course. MicroStrategy already proven it especially when Bitcoin dumped before when all-time-high reach around $40,000 then dropped to almost $29,000. They keep buying.As the biggest public company HODL bitcoin for now, What do you think about their action?
What I don't want to happen is they will take a loan just to buy Bitcoin, it is kinda risky though. Less debt, more Bitcoin is much better.
You do not speculate that this might cause a very big concern for the late holders? This clearly is the beginning of someone having a concerning amount of advantage over late adopters and he will begin to have more power to influence the whole bitcoin economy. My only hope is that this influence will not go on to the developers.
March 18, 2021, 09:55:08 PM
The biggest question is at what price will Microstrategy and Tesla dump their bitcoins
Dump? into what exactly? USD?
In case no one has been following the whole point of their purchases was to get out of USD. Why would they hold USD in their tresuaries, that particular shitcoin is being devalued at a rate that exceeds most other shitcoins out there.
And being that companies can get USD for essentially free these days via debt that is backed by the FED, why they bother selling any assets for USD.
Yeah exactly. They won't ever be dumping. Michael Saylor has made very clear his strategy is to take out loans with the company's bitcoin as collateral if the company needs extra funds. Corporations like that can take out loans at very low interest, they play in a whole different game than us regular folks. So yeah there is no reason to ever sell. Holding Bitcoin will just improve the balance sheet of these companies and help grow the stock price and they can take out loans based on it if they need money.
March 18, 2021, 07:25:10 PM
The biggest question is at what price will Microstrategy and Tesla dump their bitcoins
Dump? into what exactly? USD?
In case no one has been following the whole point of their purchases was to get out of USD. Why would they hold USD in their tresuaries, that particular shitcoin is being devalued at a rate that exceeds most other shitcoins out there.
And being that companies can get USD for essentially free these days via debt that is backed by the FED, why they bother selling any assets for USD.
March 18, 2021, 06:54:27 PM
This good news because a huge company joins in cryptocurrency so we will see good increasing of Bitcoin, Yes this from one side. On other side this also dangerous, because huge company control a huge amount of Bitcoin, maybe they can manipulate the price, yeah although the odds are little.
When they sell it?? Big question
When they sell it?? Big question
March 18, 2021, 07:54:16 AM
That’s around 5.5 billion dollars worth of bitcoin total, do not be fooled by their 15 million dollar purchase, they use all the money they get into buying bitcoin, that is how they got to this level. They will surely beat that 100k level very soon, that is going to change a lot of things for people, I think it is quite important that we realize these huge companies get into bitcoin not like anyone else we have ever seen.
The biggest thing that we need to realize is that there is 18 million bitcoins, I am sure there are millions that is not in circulation but even with 18 million, having 100k of it total in just one company shows you that how powerful these companies are, if we look at big players that just holds and do not sell they probably all over over a million combined, which is why we need to make sure that we hold as well because all the coins we sell end up in their pocket.
The biggest thing that we need to realize is that there is 18 million bitcoins, I am sure there are millions that is not in circulation but even with 18 million, having 100k of it total in just one company shows you that how powerful these companies are, if we look at big players that just holds and do not sell they probably all over over a million combined, which is why we need to make sure that we hold as well because all the coins we sell end up in their pocket.
March 15, 2021, 05:49:14 PM
Less in circulation the higher the price. Take them coins off the market!!! 
It sounds so straightforward yet many fail to understand this very basic principle. Today there was a bit of a shake and it is unbelievable to witness how easy is for the market to eat that many coins. 
Ive been seeing another threads or those common ones that do talk about price bottom or crashes just because they do saw the price in the market had made out some corrections
which is just some common words from time to time.
March 15, 2021, 07:45:27 AM
Less in circulation the higher the price. Take them coins off the market!!!
It sounds so straightforward yet many fail to understand this very basic principle. Today there was a bit of a shake and it is unbelievable to witness how easy is for the market to eat that many coins. 
March 14, 2021, 09:27:21 AM
I was so confused about where they got the money to continue buying Bitcoin, that I was afraid they would use the borrowed money to buy Bitcoin.
Hopefully my guess is wrong, because if it is true this will be very dangerous for the future. By becoming the biggest BTC HODLer, Microstrategy
has become whales and is able to manipulate prices, because it is very dangerous if suddenly Microstrategy make Bitcoin dump. What happened
in 2017 could happen again this year, Bitcoin will be a massive dump if it is true that Microstrategy decides to sell their Bitcoin. Hopefully the plan
from Microstrategy continues to buy Bitcoin for long-term holding.
Hopefully my guess is wrong, because if it is true this will be very dangerous for the future. By becoming the biggest BTC HODLer, Microstrategy
has become whales and is able to manipulate prices, because it is very dangerous if suddenly Microstrategy make Bitcoin dump. What happened
in 2017 could happen again this year, Bitcoin will be a massive dump if it is true that Microstrategy decides to sell their Bitcoin. Hopefully the plan
from Microstrategy continues to buy Bitcoin for long-term holding.
March 14, 2021, 08:12:47 AM
Let's not be worried about them at all because even before MicroStrategy have been buying large quantities of Bitcoin there have been whales that have existed long before them and they have been controlling Bitcoin's price action right from the start and from what I know whales and even Bitcoin mining farms have been hodling larger quantities of Bitcoin as compared to what they have. If MicroStrategy will become one of the whales then they will just be doing the same action as what the whales are doing now, Bitcoin won't really be in a position where something has change as it will always be subject to volatility.
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