Topic: Might be a poker series on the horizon, need input (Read 506 times)

Exactly the perfect way to look at it. You could be in for free or at worst you spend $10. This is the pre game to a series, they just want to gauge interest from the community. Decent turnout turns into a series, so we need to see as many members as possible to join.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64468758

Discussion has also been opened in the gambling discussion board, feel free to ask questions or whatnot.

Too bad there is only one game and not a full tournament, but i like the dynamic, the fact that we only have to place a $10 bet to join is nice because if it wins we can join to the free roll while we already make profit, and if the bet loses we can see it as a $10 buy-in for a $2k free roll.

So, thanks to yahoo62278, Royse777 and DGbet for this event, i will join without a doubt, let's see if luck is with us this time.

Game details are now live, let me know if you have any questions. Will be hosted by myself, Royse777, and the DGBet team.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64468664

I will let everyone know tomorrow when the event is posted. I will say that it's not a poker site hosting the event. 100 is gonna be tough but it can be done, it's essentially a freeroll.

Which provider though? Possible to share this info? 
I think 100 participants is a very very veeeery long shot. Freerolls posted in here don't even get that many players recently. So it's hard to get that for a buyin tournament.

Be on the lookout within the next 24 hours. There will be a tourney available for those interested. Prize pool depends on participants. Ill post a link here when everything goes live. It's only 1 game for now to see how many players join. They'd like to see 100 enter so let's get close.

I agree, it has just been the standard format in the past so I have always used it for the points. I've asked for input before and didn't really get much, but this time around there have been a few decent suggestions.

It would also help combat that if anyone committed was committed for the whole series. We have 20 players and 20 players only, anyone else interested should have played game 1. Anyone who played game 1 has to play all in the series whether they win em all or lose em all. I doubt that type of structure would interest some as the past shows us that once someone feels like they have no shot, they tuck tail and run.

If this series happens, there will be a change to the points system and there will be something in place to give a spot or 2 to some who didn't qualify somehow.

OP: There are a questions scheme, but let me give a general opinion, it's not my idea to distort the (you) order.

A tournament on the corresponding day (reached by agreement), and another one that would be called Second Chance (Sunday) with a buyin of 2x that of the first tournament.

The leaderboard cannot be flat (the one we have always had), that is, to assign those in the tournament classification points, It must be done by a formula that takes into account the register (# players) since this varies a lot every Q#.

So, that formula benefits accordingly when 20 register and when 10 register, likewise, if only (for example) five players register for the Second Chance , they don't automatically get points.

We've seen this in past seasons, players earning 10 points in Q# with a registration of 7, 8 players, and then you have another tournament where 20 register and the first place player earns the same 10.

A proper formula would add excitement and perhaps attract more players... I think it's not so much about the buy-in.

For the rest, just tell me the date and the buyin, ah!, 10,000 chips (100 blinds)

 

I saw some people mentioned bounty knockout tournament in their suggestion

Playing 2 games a week for 4 weeks straight seems boring so probably two games a week with different format would be great imo. One for the regular game and another one for PKO game, probably with different starting time as well to accomodate some players


Probably around 15-20 players though, could be even less when some people decided to stop because they wont have enough point for the grand final

1. $15-20 is preferable for me, but if it is $25 I will still participate, but this is the limit at which I will participate.

2. Any time except for a short period from 00.00 to 6.00 UTC

3. I am ready for any point system, as long as it is adequate.

4. I am agreed with Hhampuz at this point.

5. 2-3 tournaments would be ideal for me. I think it will prevent players from getting bored while waiting for the next one.

6. 100 - 150 bb

7. Between a regular and a turbo format.

I have never participated in this before, but I think it will be interesting, the main thing is that the players do not miss tournaments and there is a sufficient number of players.

We can only dream of having that many players in this tournament... I think at best there can be between 20 and 30 players, and that is in the first games. When we get near the end of the series that number always drops to the +10 players who have a chance at the final board. Maybe with the change in structure, there will be more people, but that remains to be seen if the Bitcointalk poker series starts up again.


As Hhampuz wrote, maybe we can have two games a week at different starting times. So everyone will have equal chances, and who knows maybe some people will manage to play both games. Since I have night shifts maybe I can catch some "late game" as well.

As usual, I doubt we will find the perfect time that will suit everyone, there are too many time zones... I hope we will find some compromise that will suit the majority.

The time is a problem for me to follow tournament poker. Sometime is clashing with my activity, and sometimes too late (like 4-6pm UTC, it is midnight here) so I couldn't follow because I had to sleep, even if it is the weekend. 12-2 PM UTC is perfect time for me.

The reason for the points system is that you collect points throughout a "season" and the top 9 players in points once the season is finished are entered into a championship tournament without a buy-in to compete for who is the best. Finding a sponsor makes it more exciting but otherwise we can just take it from previous tournaments too.

I’m not familiar with your previous structure, but in terms of buy-in and point system I would do something like $20+$5, where $20 is the buy-in to the tournament and $5 goes towards a series leaderboard.
If you have for example 10 games in the series with an average of 100 players per tournament that would be $5,000 towards the leaderboard. Ranking the too players would get them each a piece of the pie according to a point system.

This would probably be ideal for players that dont want to play all the games and know they wont rank on the leaderboard, but would enjoy playing one or 2 games with a prizepool they could win at the end of each tournament.

Buy in Suggestion: $25
Once a week- Thursday or Saturday
Uk time:19:00-21:00

Send more details on where its hosted, wouldnt mind showing some support playing 1-2 games

1. $15 + $2.5 added to final

2. 6-9PM UTC

3. I'm thinking everyone who participates gets 1 point, no matter position. Add total members together as points x2 that the top 9 will play for. If there are 20 people playing, there's 40 points to play for - then divide it fairly for the FT, like so:

1st - 10 pts
2nd - 8pts
3rd - 6pts
4th - 5pts
5th - 4pts
6th - 3pts
7th - 2pt
8th - 1pt
9th - 1pt

So if you win you get a total of 11pts (the FT bonus + 1 for participating). This means that the field will be incredibly even and there's always something to play for. IMO.

4. If we do the final as just a FT (best 9 in terms of points after the "season") We could just make it the 8 best players and add all players who played all tournaments but did not qualify in a lucky loser pool that gives one of them direct access to the Finals.

5. 2 Tournaments / Week is ideal. Wednesdays and Sundays, can have different starting times. Could also have different structures/formats for these two, like one turbo and one regular.

6. Depending on format, ~150BB

7. Turbo Wednesday / Regular Sunday. Could be fun.

There is a big incentive or at least there has been for all the past series. There is anywhere from a 1k-5k prize pool for the finale and all the money you can win in each single tourney. Always been plenty of incentive IMO.

Honestly, it's supposed to be a series and all players should be committed to playing every single game. Shouldn't be all this 100 1 week then 25 the next. You're playing a series and you take away from it by missing games. Also shouldn't allow ppl to join if they didn't play week 1, but we have been super lenient and not put rules in place for people saying they must play all games or cannot play if they didn't play in week 1.

I would love to see 20-40 commit to playing every game in the series regardless of if they get way behind in points. I doubt that happens as far as everyone commit, but it would be nice. There is a core group of 10 or so that have played every single game. There is prize money to be won in every single game regardless of your points standing. Considering paying out more spots as well and more than 1 table for the final game. Lots of things to think about if we get this going.

I wouldn't let betnomi or whatever the new platform is called host another series if they offered us 500k pool. They have burned their bridge with me as far as I am concerned. It is going to be on a platform that's been around awhile, but I'm not gonna say unless they agree to host the series. It's not hard to figure out with a little research though.

The incentive is the same: the prize money won and leaderboard winnings. Maybe this way (proposed by OP) more players will be interested, but I was arguing for the fairness of the leaderboard rather than ways to achieve more participants. I know very well that without any sponsorship, it is very hard to attract players.

I would like to know where does the tournament will have place, I mean what casino will host it? The past one was on betnomi, but that casino didn't have a happy end. And after the bad relation with the forum I don't think the owner wan to host another tournament in the new platform.

Maybe stake would like to host a tournament like this, but they are so big for a small event like this, so, what options we have?

Because in your way to calculate it, it "rewards" people for not participating a lot. There should be an incentive to play. You miss too many tournaments you should also face to consequences (not enough points) .
On the other side, people that play but only win small amounts in small tournaments have no rewards for being a active participant.

Hope you know what I mean.
And let's be real, there won't be a tournament with 100 players. The last series (2021, couldn't find one after) organized here had 14 participants.

What if in one tournament 11 players play and in the second one 100 players play? Do you think first-place winners in both tournaments should get equal points?
My suggestion focuses on ascribing a fixed value to each participant, which is already there—we call it 'buy-in' in poker  . Why create unnecessary variables and complications? Just calculate the total money won and decide rankings.