Topic: Miners that pay for electricity should seriously start reconsidering - page 3. (Read 8090 times)
August 03, 2011, 03:20:48 PM
What, no one saying the OP is just wanting people to stop mining so the difficulty will go down for him?
August 03, 2011, 03:20:24 PM
so you want me to use a MOBO with 2 PCIx slots?
And with this comment, I will not entertain anymore of your posts until you spend a good day reading as many posts as you can to learn first, then ask good questions later.
August 03, 2011, 03:16:47 PM
I wont lie when I read the subject I was expecting a post from angelus lol.
Second.
August 03, 2011, 03:11:23 PM
Just because I have time I'll try to build a high ratio build that cuts all corners with the 5850 @ 145
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138324
48 for extenders
30 for cpu (heat sink not included)
10 for heatsink
6-flash drive
10-ram
580 for 4 5850
90 for psu
total=834
expected megahash=1,600
ratio = 1.91
I guess if you want to add a case add ~$60
ratio=1.79
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138324
48 for extenders
30 for cpu (heat sink not included)
10 for heatsink
6-flash drive
10-ram
580 for 4 5850
90 for psu
total=834
expected megahash=1,600
ratio = 1.91
I guess if you want to add a case add ~$60
ratio=1.79
August 03, 2011, 03:10:25 PM
I was curious, so I checked out the price of kWh from my utility. Not bad. $0.0950 per kWh. I need to get a kill a watt meter for my pc.
August 03, 2011, 03:02:34 PM
I can make rigs that get 1.2 ghz with a better than 1.5 ratio... does that count? 
(all new parts too)
Does this come with an 80+ gold PSU? That is one corner that is terrible to cut. If it does, plz share because i have no idea how you plan to do this. Also, MIR shouldn't be deducted from the price. (all new parts too)
August 03, 2011, 03:02:10 PM
1. if you have to pay for electricity, you should not be getting into the mining game at this point, period.
2. if you have to pay for electricity, but you already have 1 or several dedicated rigs running, you should still mine, but start winding down your operation, start selling some rigs. You don't want to be selling them at a much lower price when the mass exodus begins (when difficulty reaches equilibrium with electricity cost, those who have to pay for electricity will inevitably start selling their rigs).
The fact of the matter is difficulty will keep rising until it reaches equilibrium with average electricity cost. The price of BTC will keep falling, because the supply of new BTC each day is overwelming the market, unless another wave of significant adoption comes, BTC price will continue to fall slowly. Until block reward is halved sometime in 2012.
2. if you have to pay for electricity, but you already have 1 or several dedicated rigs running, you should still mine, but start winding down your operation, start selling some rigs. You don't want to be selling them at a much lower price when the mass exodus begins (when difficulty reaches equilibrium with electricity cost, those who have to pay for electricity will inevitably start selling their rigs).
The fact of the matter is difficulty will keep rising until it reaches equilibrium with average electricity cost. The price of BTC will keep falling, because the supply of new BTC each day is overwelming the market, unless another wave of significant adoption comes, BTC price will continue to fall slowly. Until block reward is halved sometime in 2012.
If you would have dated this 08/03/2010, it would have been perfect.
August 03, 2011, 02:47:22 PM
I can make rigs that get 1.2 ghz with a better than 1.5 ratio... does that count? (all new parts too)
Does this come with an 80+ gold PSU? That is one corner that is terrible to cut. If it does, plz share because i have no idea how you plan to do this. Also, MIR shouldn't be deducted from the price. (all new parts too)
August 03, 2011, 02:43:25 PM
I can make rigs that get 1.2 ghz with a better than 1.5 ratio... does that count? (all new parts too)
(all new parts too)absolutely counts....can you give me some details? I need cases.....these go in an office building, and it does not help "our look" to have computer parts strewn about.
August 03, 2011, 02:33:27 PM
I can make rigs that get 1.2 ghz with a better than 1.5 ratio... does that count? (all new parts too)
You most definitely can get better then a 1.5 ratio but it tends to take a long time to mass produce something like that and you usually have to cut corners like excluding any form of a case. (all new parts too)But seriously. I will give you $5,250 to make me 5 of these (must be properly configured for 1,500 MH/s each)....that should leave you a very large profit margin.
If you're actually serious pm me and we will try to figure something out.
August 03, 2011, 02:27:21 PM
I wont lie when I read the subject I was expecting a post from angelus lol.
Exactly.. hes posting doomsday on the Discussion section..
August 03, 2011, 02:24:54 PM
I can make rigs that get 1.2 ghz with a better than 1.5 ratio... does that count? (all new parts too)
(all new parts too) August 03, 2011, 02:08:51 PM
I should have prefaced with this: I DON'T WANT SOMEONES USED CRAP.
Show me where I can build a NEW system that gets 1500 MH/s for $1,000.
Am I really going to have to list out links because your too much of a dumb ass to realize 420 dollars for non gpu parts can be easily done....Show me where I can build a NEW system that gets 1500 MH/s for $1,000.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103944
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134657
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139292
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138324
48 for extenders
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256057
That leaves 78 dollars from the 420 budget....
But seriously. I will give you $5,250 to make me 5 of these (must be properly configured for 1,500 MH/s each)....that should leave you a very large profit margin.
August 03, 2011, 02:06:00 PM
lol....."broseph"....awesome.
August 03, 2011, 01:58:16 PM
so you want me to use a MOBO with 2 PCIx slots?
It's got 4 slots broseph do your homework before you start arguing.PCI Express 2.0 x16 =2
PCI Express x1=2
August 03, 2011, 01:54:38 PM
so you want me to use a MOBO with 2 PCIx slots?
August 03, 2011, 11:59:57 AM
I should have prefaced with this: I DON'T WANT SOMEONES USED CRAP.
Show me where I can build a NEW system that gets 1500 MH/s for $1,000.
Am I really going to have to list out links because your too much of a dumb ass to realize 420 dollars for non gpu parts can be easily done....Show me where I can build a NEW system that gets 1500 MH/s for $1,000.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103944
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134657
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139292
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138324
48 for extenders
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256057
That leaves 78 dollars from the 420 budget....
August 03, 2011, 11:45:02 AM
I should have prefaced with this: I DON'T WANT SOMEONES USED CRAP.
Show me where I can build a NEW system that gets 1500 MH/s for $1,000.
similar deal.Show me where I can build a NEW system that gets 1500 MH/s for $1,000.
i got 2 of the 5850 new for 174. ncixus had a sale....shipping is a bitch though.
mobo, 1x riser, cpu, ram..and/or HD, the total will cost you like 900somethingsomething.
if you want to get the same deal, well, gotta wait until it shows up again.
but then again, i don't care about using someone's used crap, as long as it can pay itself back.
if you have the $$ to waste, go ahead and buy new stuff.
August 03, 2011, 11:42:32 AM
I pay 5.8$ for 250 kw 
August 03, 2011, 11:41:52 AM
So let me get this right:
step 1) buy 4 video cards that are not readily available, and the ones that are easily exceed your claimed "price" (at least 200 a piece)
step 2) buy 1250 Watt PSU, 4 PCIx MOBO, processor, RAM under $420
Step 3) profit!
Foolproof.
step 1) buy 4 video cards that are not readily available, and the ones that are easily exceed your claimed "price" (at least 200 a piece)
step 2) buy 1250 Watt PSU, 4 PCIx MOBO, processor, RAM under $420
Step 3) profit!
Foolproof.
3) I seriously doubt that you will ever profit!!!
2) no need for 1250 Watts. if you are so bent on having 1250 Watts, then get 2 650-750 Watts PSUs ($140 total).
1) I bought 10 5850s last week for $1,492.64 (includes shipping) from ncix.com. you have to look for deals. alternatively you can use 5 5830s as well (at a good price).
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