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if i recall, ethos power setting is a straight power value in watts, not a power limit in percent. right?
sr. member
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do the modded memory straps do anything for progpow? has anyone tested it side by side with a card before and after memory straps bios mod? or is everyone just assuming it helps?

from what i'm reading, it sounds like progpow is totally core speed dependent and doesnt really care about the gpu memory. is that correct?

Yes seems so, powerlimit has also an impact.   Just didn't flash my GPUs to default VBios cause i'm using ethOS in multirig config, so i can switch miners any time.
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0,9V = 900mV

My settings for progpow

RX580 @ 10,3 mh/s
Core: 1240
Mem: 1750
Vcore: 890mV
vddci: 900mV
dpm: 5
pwr: 160W (@144W)

RX570 @ 8,5 mh/s
Core: 1150
Mem: 1750
VCore: 890mV
vddci : 900mV
dpm: 5
pwr: 150W(@133W)

Modded straps for all cards.

do the modded memory straps do anything for progpow? has anyone tested it side by side with a card before and after memory straps bios mod? or is everyone just assuming it helps?

from what i'm reading, it sounds like progpow is totally core speed dependent and doesnt really care about the gpu memory. is that correct?
sr. member
Activity: 433
Merit: 254
0,9V = 900mV

My settings for progpow

RX580 @ 10,3 mh/s
Core: 1240
Mem: 1750
Vcore: 890mV
vddci: 900mV
dpm: 5
pwr: 160W (@144W)

RX570 @ 8,5 mh/s
Core: 1150
Mem: 1750
VCore: 890mV
vddci : 900mV
dpm: 5
pwr: 150W(@133W)

Modded straps for all cards.
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Activity: 1148
Merit: 132
Why you reduce the PL Limit on RX570? This is stupid. Lower Voltage and not the PL  Roll Eyes
Every RX570 can run 1250 on gpu core with 0,9 vgpu.

what do you mean by 0,9?

most of my rx are moddes to like 1130 core ,850mv 1875 mem , 925mv

they are great at cn 7 and eth, but horrible at progpow.  I max at like 8mhs and unstable as hell

I have mem straps modded too
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...ignoring the fact it's a very power hungry algo.

You know that the power depends on the voltage, right? Lower the power limit to 50% on nvidia or lower the voltage/core clock on amd and it'll draw less than ethereum. Nobody is forcing you to run at max power level, especially when the efficiency of hash/watt decreases with the power draw.
Lyra2z can still be mined at the original power level. You can simply lift the limit up and it'll hash more.

ProgPow and most other core-based algorithms scale perfectly well with core count and doesn't have these weird discrepancies where a weak card (RX 570) hashes as much as a twice more expensive one (GTX 1070). That way you can get 2x more performance from 2x more expensive card, so it just balances it out. RX 570 and 580 will be as powerful as GTX 1060 3 and 6GB. Vega 56/64 will be as powerful as GTX 1070/1070Ti.

Yes, there are algorithms where AMD or NVIDIA are still better, but right now we're focusing on ProgPow.
I think you missed the point.
Of course you can lower the power limit on ProgPow. I'm doing just that with my Vega cards for example. I need to drop it by 30% to keep a rig of six Vega64's under 1400W... Which unfortunately it has a large impact on the hashrate. So it might improve your efficiency (slightly) but not enough to make it remarkably more profitable. On RX 570's dropping PL by only 10% radically lowers hashrate and it worsens as you go lower.
@dragonmike ? are your vegas modded with power play tables etc ?

I have 8 vegas and they are all modded voltages are like 850 to 800 for thr core and they pull no more than 160 to 180 watts even on x16 , progpow and like 140 watts on cn forks .

vegas must be power play modded with that spreadsheet unless you have refernce card which has a power play mod floating around.

I never even touch the power limit on any of my amd cards, it’s overdriven tool for my rx cards and powerplay plus overdriven for the vegas.

My vegas are my best mining cards hash/watt.

btw why is there no power play mod for rx cards?
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Why you reduce the PL Limit on RX570? This is stupid. Lower Voltage and not the PL  Roll Eyes
Every RX570 can run 1250 on gpu core with 0,9 vgpu.
hero member
Activity: 1274
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...ignoring the fact it's a very power hungry algo.

You know that the power depends on the voltage, right? Lower the power limit to 50% on nvidia or lower the voltage/core clock on amd and it'll draw less than ethereum. Nobody is forcing you to run at max power level, especially when the efficiency of hash/watt decreases with the power draw.
Lyra2z can still be mined at the original power level. You can simply lift the limit up and it'll hash more.

ProgPow and most other core-based algorithms scale perfectly well with core count and doesn't have these weird discrepancies where a weak card (RX 570) hashes as much as a twice more expensive one (GTX 1070). That way you can get 2x more performance from 2x more expensive card, so it just balances it out. RX 570 and 580 will be as powerful as GTX 1060 3 and 6GB. Vega 56/64 will be as powerful as GTX 1070/1070Ti.

Yes, there are algorithms where AMD or NVIDIA are still better, but right now we're focusing on ProgPow.
I think you missed the point.
Of course you can lower the power limit on ProgPow. I'm doing just that with my Vega cards for example. I need to drop it by 30% to keep a rig of six Vega64's under 1400W... Which unfortunately it has a large impact on the hashrate. So it might improve your efficiency (slightly) but not enough to make it remarkably more profitable. On RX 570's dropping PL by only 10% radically lowers hashrate and it worsens as you go lower.
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...ignoring the fact it's a very power hungry algo.

You know that the power depends on the voltage, right? Lower the power limit to 50% on nvidia or lower the voltage/core clock on amd and it'll draw less than ethereum. Nobody is forcing you to run at max power level, especially when the efficiency of hash/watt decreases with the power draw.
Lyra2z can still be mined at the original power level. You can simply lift the limit up and it'll hash more.

ProgPow and most other core-based algorithms scale perfectly well with core count and doesn't have these weird discrepancies where a weak card (RX 570) hashes as much as a twice more expensive one (GTX 1070). That way you can get 2x more performance from 2x more expensive card, so it just balances it out. RX 570 and 580 will be as powerful as GTX 1060 3 and 6GB. Vega 56/64 will be as powerful as GTX 1070/1070Ti.

Yes, there are algorithms where AMD or NVIDIA are still better, but right now we're focusing on ProgPow.
hero member
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Everyone seems to rave about ProgPow as being great against ASIC proliferation and all... All hail ProgPow! Woohoo!...

...ignoring the fact it's a very power hungry algo. So in these days of low profitability hardly anyone will reap any benefits from BCI mining. That, unfortunately, is a double-edged sword which promotes efficiency of ASICs vs GPUs.

We used to have lyra2z as "power saving" algo. Unfortunately devs chose the route of optimising it by allowing for more power to be thrown at it to gain hash. Now it's just as hungry as everything else out there.

The challenge would be to design an efficient algo, that embeds decent ASIC resistance and doesn't scale much by just adding more power.


Maybe I just described CryptonightV2... Tongue
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is it profitable ?

I think ETH or cryptonight is more profitable than progpow

I don´t think so. I test Progpow on 2x 1050ti. ETH and BCI is nearly the same.
hero member
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Online Security & Investment Corporation
is it profitable ?

I think ETH or cryptonight is more profitable than progpow

you could be right.

I mine them but I will push on bci for a few months.  I would like to get 1000 coins and stake them.

Yep, i saw you re mining BCI on another topic.
Acording to calculators, it s nonsense to mine BCI.
I prefer to mine BBR on wildkeccak. I can buy BCI after selling them. Then stake
I know you have solar energy and dont pay the bill. But you must calculate the profit.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
is it profitable ?

I think ETH or cryptonight is more profitable than progpow

you could be right.

I mine them but I will push on bci for a few months.  I would like to get 1000 coins and stake them.
hero member
Activity: 2086
Merit: 608
Online Security & Investment Corporation
is it profitable ?

I think ETH or cryptonight is more profitable than progpow
sr. member
Activity: 433
Merit: 254
Anywhere to find reliable benchmark list for different AMD/Nvidia GPUs on ProgPOW algo?

My own settings/quick tests:

RX580 4GB
Core: 1240 MHz
Mem: 1750 MHz
Vcore: 900mV
MCore 900mV
pwr: 150W

10,7 mh/s

Core: 1150 MHz
Mem: 1750 MHz
Vcore: 880 mV
MCore: 900 mV
pwr: 130W

9,4 mh/s

RX570 4GB
Core: 1150 MHz
Mem: 1750 MHz
Vcore: 880 mV
MCore: 900 mV
pwr: 150W

8,7 mh/s

RX570 4GB
Core: 1150 MHz
Mem: 1750 MHz
Vcore: 880 mV
MCore: 900 mV
pwr: 130W

7,4 mh/s
hero member
Activity: 1274
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Anywhere to find reliable benchmark list for different AMD/Nvidia GPUs on ProgPOW algo?
From my own experience:

RX 570 4GB: 7.5 MH/s (-10% PL)
Vega 56 (flashed to 64): 15 MH/s (at -30% PL - higher clocks can be achieved if you've got money to burn)
sr. member
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Me, Myself & I
Anywhere to find reliable benchmark list for different AMD/Nvidia GPUs on ProgPOW algo?
sr. member
Activity: 433
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And your AMD GPUs are?

Anyway remove any overclocking and raise or remove powerlimits, use undervolting only.  If you're running a VBios mod with heavy modifications flash default VBios.


 
legendary
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~Full-Time Minter since 2016~
add:
--opencl-platform 1
to your command Wink

like sgminer Tongue

hero member
Activity: 2086
Merit: 608
Online Security & Investment Corporation

I m trying to mine BCI but the miner only use onboard graphic card and give 0.52 MH/s
How could I use my AMD GPUs ?

AMD Miner: https://www.bitcoininterest.io/downloads/progpowminer-amd-windows.zip

My BAT file:
Code:
setx GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR 0
setx GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_SINGLE_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
@echo off
REM # Edit the line below to be
REM # progpowminer-amd.exe -G -P stratum+tcp://@:
REM # Example:
progpowminer-amd.exe -G -P stratum+tcp://igotek.A01:[email protected]:9166
pause
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