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legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1000
September 02, 2011, 09:21:04 PM
#45
ok. wait so 2ghs = 1btc a day right? so 8ghs = 4btc a day * 7 days = 28btc +- 2btc with variance.

how's this a good deal?

Good God, the amount of ignorance on this forum is mind blowing.
hero member
Activity: 737
Merit: 500
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
September 02, 2011, 04:27:06 PM
#43
ok. wait so 2ghs = 1btc a day right? so 8ghs = 4btc a day * 7 days = 28btc +- 2btc with variance.

how's this a good deal?
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1000
September 02, 2011, 03:27:20 PM
#42
The original post states 8000 mh/s. Did you add hardware since then?

Yes indeed....I added two 5970's (thanks Newegg!) and some random smaller cards.  I am well above 9,000 Mh/s, but with this many machines I suffer 1 or 2 outages a day.  Therefore I will only garauntee 8,500 MH/s.

Price is 30 BTC.
full member
Activity: 188
Merit: 100
September 02, 2011, 02:39:28 PM
#41
The original post states 8000 mh/s. Did you add hardware since then?
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1000
September 02, 2011, 02:17:57 PM
#40
Is it 8000 real mh/s as detected by mining program? And 8500-9000 I assume is whats being reported by the pool being used?


Not at all.  I track my miners individually and tally my total hash rate in a spreadsheet. 

I check it against what the pool reports to make sure it is close.  I am usually within 150 MH/s of what I expect to be.

full member
Activity: 188
Merit: 100
September 02, 2011, 01:45:56 PM
#39
Is it 8000 real mh/s as detected by mining program? And 8500-9000 I assume is whats being reported by the pool being used?
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1000
September 02, 2011, 12:50:20 PM
#38
The current contract expires today at 7:00PM EST.

Is anyone intrested in purchasing the next 7 days?  I will garauntee 8,500 MH/s for the entire contract.

Price is 30 BTC. 

can you post how the last contract went?


If you are interested in the next contract, I have averaged 9,000 MH/s over the last 48 hours.  Those 5970's certainly kick it in the ass. 
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1000
September 02, 2011, 12:48:58 PM
#37
The current contract expires today at 7:00PM EST.

Is anyone intrested in purchasing the next 7 days?  I will garauntee 8,500 MH/s for the entire contract.

Price is 30 BTC. 

can you post how the last contract went?

I purchased the last 7 day contract and everything went smoothly.


Indeed, it was a great transaction.  Bitsense kept his word and was excellent to work with. 

member
Activity: 78
Merit: 10
September 01, 2011, 10:43:39 PM
#36
The current contract expires today at 7:00PM EST.

Is anyone intrested in purchasing the next 7 days?  I will garauntee 8,500 MH/s for the entire contract.

Price is 30 BTC. 

can you post how the last contract went?

I purchased the last 7 day contract and everything went smoothly.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
Drunk Posts
September 01, 2011, 09:54:37 PM
#35
I'll offer 27 bitcoins (all I have) if you switch the miners to my deepbit account.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
September 01, 2011, 09:38:27 PM
#34
The current contract expires today at 7:00PM EST.

Is anyone intrested in purchasing the next 7 days?  I will garauntee 8,500 MH/s for the entire contract.

Price is 30 BTC. 

can you post how the last contract went?
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 251
August 31, 2011, 10:51:28 AM
#33
The return on hardware investment (excluding electricity cost) is the same for someone who buys $500 worth of mining gear, or $50,000.

Yes, but with $500 worth of rigs (or rather, rig) you wont be earning anything 'worthwhile'.
With $50k of rigs (say ~30,000 mhash) you would likely be earning more from mining per month than working at a decent mid-level managerial position in a company.

While both people do get their investment back in time, $500 is peanuts in the big picture. $50k is a lot, even for relatively rich people.
Paying off that much hardware & gaining everything after that as pure profit after electricity is a very lucrative business.
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1000
August 30, 2011, 02:58:45 PM
#32
The current contract expires today at 7:00PM EST.

Is anyone intrested in purchasing the next 7 days?  I will garauntee 8,500 MH/s for the entire contract.

Price is 30 BTC. 
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1000
August 26, 2011, 01:10:27 PM
#31
What if he wants to mine even if he thinks the price is going to drop?  Why wouldn't he, if he can still make a profit on it (and a larger one if he gets the BTC today, but the price drops before the contract ends)?
If the price goes up, he looses.
If the price stays the same, he looses.
If the price goes down a little, he breaks even.
If the price goes down a lot, then he wins.

If the price is going to go down a lot, he'll make a much bigger profit by selling the hardware now.

There's clearly enough interest in mining contracts, especially moderately priced ones. I don't see the point in selling them at a loss. He could easily sell them for a small profit.
If the price goes down a lot, why would he make a much bigger profit by selling the hardware now, vs selling it in 7 days after the first contract is completed?

Selling now:  $5000 in hardware
Selling in 7 days:  $5000 in hardware + $246.22 in BTC.

I would agree with you that I don't see the point in selling them at a loss, but that's his choice.  He'll still make money on it, and that's all that is important to him.

There is no way to know whether I am selling this contract at a loss until it is completed.  My current contract was sold when BTC was $11.15/BTC.....today it is down to $8.9/BTC.

If the price continues to plummet, I will be better off having traded 30 BTC of declining value for 26 BTC @ $11.15.  (Yes, I sold them). 


I really hope this is the last time I have to explain this.  Questioning why I am "selling at a loss" is not only the wrong question, it is somewhat ignorant.  
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
August 25, 2011, 06:38:14 PM
#30
What if he wants to mine even if he thinks the price is going to drop?  Why wouldn't he, if he can still make a profit on it (and a larger one if he gets the BTC today, but the price drops before the contract ends)?
If the price goes up, he looses.
If the price stays the same, he looses.
If the price goes down a little, he breaks even.
If the price goes down a lot, then he wins.

If the price is going to go down a lot, he'll make a much bigger profit by selling the hardware now.

There's clearly enough interest in mining contracts, especially moderately priced ones. I don't see the point in selling them at a loss. He could easily sell them for a small profit.
If the price goes down a lot, why would he make a much bigger profit by selling the hardware now, vs selling it in 7 days after the first contract is completed?

Selling now:  $5000 in hardware
Selling in 7 days:  $5000 in hardware + $246.22 in BTC.

I would agree with you that I don't see the point in selling them at a loss, but that's his choice.  He'll still make money on it, and that's all that is important to him.
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1193
August 25, 2011, 05:51:49 PM
#29
What if he wants to mine even if he thinks the price is going to drop?  Why wouldn't he, if he can still make a profit on it (and a larger one if he gets the BTC today, but the price drops before the contract ends)?
If the price goes up, he looses.
If the price stays the same, he looses.
If the price goes down a little, he breaks even.
If the price goes down a lot, then he wins.

If the price is going to go down a lot, he'll make a much bigger profit by selling the hardware now.

There's clearly enough interest in mining contracts, especially moderately priced ones. I don't see the point in selling them at a loss. He could easily sell them for a small profit.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1005
August 25, 2011, 05:09:10 PM
#28
No wonder you have a waiting list. You are selling contracts at a loss. Why??? For 30 BTC your farm will generate 33 BTC, since there's virtually zero chance of difficulty changing significantly in the coming week.

Ahhh, but what if the exchange rate is cut in half by next week? 

We discussed this earlier in the thread.....pretty straightforward. 
You're betting that bitcoins will tank this week? If you're so convinced that the price of bitcoin is going to drop, then why don't you sell your miners? Because if the price of bitcoins go up, this contract is even more of a bad move on your part.
What if he wants to mine even if he thinks the price is going to drop?  Why wouldn't he, if he can still make a profit on it (and a larger one if he gets the BTC today, but the price drops before the contract ends)?
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1193
August 25, 2011, 04:44:37 PM
#27
No wonder you have a waiting list. You are selling contracts at a loss. Why??? For 30 BTC your farm will generate 33 BTC, since there's virtually zero chance of difficulty changing significantly in the coming week.

Ahhh, but what if the exchange rate is cut in half by next week? 

We discussed this earlier in the thread.....pretty straightforward. 
You're betting that bitcoins will tank this week? If you're so convinced that the price of bitcoin is going to drop, then why don't you sell your miners? Because if the price of bitcoins go up, this contract is even more of a bad move on your part.
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1000
August 25, 2011, 04:14:12 PM
#26
No wonder you have a waiting list. You are selling contracts at a loss. Why??? For 30 BTC your farm will generate 33 BTC, since there's virtually zero chance of difficulty changing significantly in the coming week.

Ahhh, but what if the exchange rate is cut in half by next week? 

We discussed this earlier in the thread.....pretty straightforward. 
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