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Topic: Mining on another planet. Possible? - page 2. (Read 6545 times)

legendary
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November 02, 2013, 11:01:22 AM
#48
If you could use quantum entanglement for instantaneous communication,

then we could send our mining computer into a black hole or somewhere else with massive distorted space time...
 for the miner, time may pass at a different rate.. maybe much faster than on earth.. yet you are still getting instantaneous communication..
so.. on earth 10minutes have passed, but the miner has had 5 years to mine blocks in that short period...

WIN
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 500
November 02, 2013, 09:53:13 AM
#47
Mars is freaking cold, so maybee heat production?

Oxygen would be the main problem... until then, lets stop thinking of mining there .....
member
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Merit: 10
November 02, 2013, 04:42:38 AM
#46
Mars is freaking cold, so maybee heat production?
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1000
November 01, 2013, 08:54:30 PM
#45
Cant even roi mining on earth, why ppl want to do it on mars instead :p
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
In Hashrate We Trust!
November 01, 2013, 02:59:40 PM
#44
Forget about Mars coin, there wont be humans on Mars for decades. But we can have bitcoin in space around the world to make the vision of a free and untouchable internet become reality.

My vision is that we build 1000s of tiny satellites with the following functionality:
-mesh networking
-communication with earth and neighbour satellites
-bitcoin mining hardware onboard
-hosting of websites

These devices can enable a free and uncensored internet in countries like China, it will be slow but it will be work and will be hard to stop unless they shoot down 100s of satellites over Asia.


newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
October 31, 2013, 10:03:05 AM
#43
I doubt there will ever be some big population on mars this century. Enought time to see if Bitcoin will be still alive

Bitcoin will live forever..... Well just the mining stop but its still there...

Incidentally, if mining stops, Bitcoin dies, given it's the only method of propagating transactions. I still don't think it'll be around when Mars is colonized - only because of how long it will take.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
October 31, 2013, 09:26:54 AM
#42
I doubt there will ever be some big population on mars this century. Enought time to see if Bitcoin will be still alive

Bitcoin will live forever..... Well just the mining stop but its still there...
hero member
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Act #Neutral,Think y'self as a citizen of Universe
October 30, 2013, 01:30:31 PM
#41
I doubt there will ever be some big population on mars this century. Enought time to see if Bitcoin will be still alive
full member
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Merit: 100
October 30, 2013, 01:11:22 PM
#40
Maybe the best solution would be to have another coin just for Mars, then there could be a rather slow trade market.
member
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Merit: 10
October 30, 2013, 10:18:14 AM
#39
Bitcoin might be the currency of the universe. Even alien use them Smiley

This could help Bitcoin if aliens wanted to trade, but only in exchane for Bitcoin  Smiley


But back to topic, Bitcoin does not need high speed Internet at all to work. With Electrum client you dont need to download the blockchain
sr. member
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October 30, 2013, 10:04:33 AM
#38
sr. member
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October 30, 2013, 09:56:44 AM
#37
Its not like we ganna ran out of space. But anyway, its possible to mine on another planet since they send their robot there and is able to control from earth. So the connection is fast enough Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
October 30, 2013, 01:21:17 AM
#36
so i have another question. if its imposable for entangled particles to transfer information, how could you ever design a test that would show whether two particles were entangled or not. wouldn't that test require that they transfer some sort of information between each other?
You can't tell whether two particles were entangled without knowing the state of both of them. And you can't know the state of a distant particle without measuring it and transmitting the results of that measurement across that distance, which can't be done faster than the speed of light.

k that also makes sense
legendary
Activity: 4542
Merit: 3393
Vile Vixen and Miss Bitcointalk 2021-2023
October 30, 2013, 01:15:40 AM
#35
so i have another question. if its imposable for entangled particles to transfer information, how could you ever design a test that would show whether two particles were entangled or not. wouldn't that test require that they transfer some sort of information between each other?
You can't tell whether two particles were entangled without knowing the state of both of them. And you can't know the state of a distant particle without measuring it and transmitting the results of that measurement across that distance, which can't be done faster than the speed of light.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
October 29, 2013, 10:37:39 PM
#34
you would just measure it and when it is in a state than it is a 0 and when it is in superposition than it is a 1.
I am not even able to comprehend the degree of confusion that could provoke such a statement. To measure something means to determine its state. A particle or system of particles is always in some state or another after you measure it, by definition. Superposition can only exist as long as no measurement is performed.

that makes sense. i was just basing my conclusions on what you said, not on my intricate understanding of quantum physics.

so i have another question. if its imposable for entangled particles to transfer information, how could you ever design a test that would show whether two particles were entangled or not. wouldn't that test require that they transfer some sort of information between each other?
legendary
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Vile Vixen and Miss Bitcointalk 2021-2023
October 29, 2013, 10:36:41 PM
#33
you would just measure it and when it is in a state than it is a 0 and when it is in superposition than it is a 1.
I am not even able to comprehend the degree of confusion that could provoke such a statement. To measure something means to determine its state. A particle or system of particles is always in some state or another after you measure it, by definition. Superposition can only exist as long as no measurement is performed.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
October 29, 2013, 10:03:33 PM
#32
Speed of light is the "fastest internet connection" you are going to get.

This always bothered me; assume a string of (non elastic) rope from earth to Mars. If someone pulls it on earth, wouldnt it be noted instantly on Mars?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do1lm9IevYE&t=5m27s
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1217
October 29, 2013, 09:55:30 PM
#31
quantum entanglement should allow for instantaneous communication over any distance.
It shouldn't and it doesn't.

Why shouldn't it? I guess you know everything their is to know about quantum mechanics,.... better let the rest of the world know so they can give up their research.

It shouldn't and it doesn't.
I cearainly don't know everything that is to know about quantum mechanics, but I've studied quantum mechanics and quantum field theory for more than 1.5 years now.

The problem is: you can enforce a particle that is in a superposition of 2 states to bee in one of the 2 states over great distances, but you don't get to choose which of the states it gets into.

When your communication partner measures the particles, he can't distinguish between particles that were forced into one state by his measurement, and particles that were in a pure state before. So no communication with quantum entanglement

Ok so maybe you didnt quite explain it properly, but according to the way you explained it you should still be able to communicate information. you would just measure it and when it is in a state than it is a 0 and when it is in superposition than it is a 1.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
October 29, 2013, 09:06:43 PM
#30
I don't see humans populating mars at all...or by the time they do, bitcoin will be obsolete completely. 

I believe Mars will be settled in just under a decade.  So do hundreds of thousands of other people.  Bitcoin will still be relevant.
http://www.mars-one.com/en/



Bitcoin might be the currency of the universe. Even alien use them Smiley
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
October 29, 2013, 06:51:03 PM
#29
I don't see humans populating mars at all...or by the time they do, bitcoin will be obsolete completely. 

I believe Mars will be settled in just under a decade.  So do hundreds of thousands of other people.  Bitcoin will still be relevant.
http://www.mars-one.com/en/

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