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November 30, 2017, 10:48:13 PM
#32
So a day of TZC mining went just went, no issues.  Here are my current OC settings:

Power Limit: 73
Temp Limit (linked to PL): 71
Core Clock: 0
Mem Clock: 620
Fan: Auto
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November 30, 2017, 03:29:38 PM
#31
Somehow I have the feeling what you see is related to the GPU, not the MB.   That is why I suggested to remove the memory OC and just see how it goes.
If those are with Micron memory, which probably they are,  620 is a bit more than it can take long-term.

So may be try this
Keep keep TDP at 70-75% or whatever is preference for you.  (not less than 60% because hashrate drops a lot then).
Try a while with no memery OC.  See results
Increase OC of memory to 350. See results
Increase OC of memory to 500. See results.

don't OC core to more than 90-100.
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November 30, 2017, 02:12:17 PM
#30
Sorry, I am confused.  You said you have 4 GPUs -  (4) MSI 1070 GTX 8 GB GPUs,   now 6.  

Try to disable memory overclock, see how it goes for a test.



Sorry didn't mean to confuse  Grin  My end goal was to eventually have 6 in total.  That's what I sized my MB and PSU for.  The rig CURRENTLY has (4) 1070s.

I'll see how it looks when I get home from a day of mining.  I'll give the clock test a try later.
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November 30, 2017, 01:43:32 PM
#29
Sorry, I am confused.  You said you have 4 GPUs -  (4) MSI 1070 GTX 8 GB GPUs,   now 6.  

Try to disable memory overclock, see how it goes for a test.

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November 30, 2017, 08:31:00 AM
#28
Have you tried putting 1 GPU directly on the MB, the rest 3 only on raisers?  
How much do you Overclock the memory?



No because the 1070 it block one of the PCI slots so I could only put 5 cards in instead of 6.  What would be the benefit of doing this? I'm open to it at this point.

I do overclock, around 620 on afterburner.  I also jumped power limit to 75 this morning to see if that would help.
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November 30, 2017, 02:34:16 AM
#27
Have you tried putting 1 GPU directly on the MB, the rest 3 only on raisers?  
How much do you Overclock the memory?

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November 30, 2017, 12:48:16 AM
#26
And the blinking/red screen is back.  Now I'm truly frustrated.  ASRock has offered to RMA my board but frankly that would mean my rig is down for weeks.

Any suggestions  Cry
legendary
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November 29, 2017, 12:31:42 PM
#25
Different motherboards will also kind of determine the overclock potential for the GPUs.
No they won't. Why would they? For CPU overclocking yes, there might be slight differences due to different VRM setups and the BIOSes using different approaches to configuring some parameters (different vdroop and LLC settings, for example), but what does the motherboard have to do with the GPU overclocking? All that matters (besides the obvious silicon lottery luck) is the power quality (PSU), and even that doesn't matter too much provided that there's enough power (unless the PSU is total crap). Never ever have my GPU OC results depended on the platform the card is used on, and that's 100+ GPUs and at least 20+ boards over the years.

So benching your cards in a test system will give you a good reference point, but it most likely wont be identical when you swap it to its home system.
What makes you think so? Have you ever had (repeatable) cases of one card running fine with set OC on one board and not being able to run with the same OC on another? With exactly the same PSU and not a faulty board? Excluding some nonsense of course, like reference rx 480 cards drawing more than 75W from the PCI-E slot, thus crashing on some boards and running better on others. In normal conditions, without anything like that?
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November 29, 2017, 11:31:23 AM
#24
I think that's a very good idea to have a test rig before installing in the main one.  Would definitely point out problem hardware prior to bringing it online. 
Yep, and you can assemble that test rig for next to nothing. All you need from the platform is a PCI-e x16 slot, so it can be anything as old as intel's socket 775 or amd am2. You can run win10 even with 2gb of ram, I guess, and obviously any old hdd will work too. Can source a system like this off ebay or some local classifieds for as low as $20. Then you add a PSU (doesn't have to be very powerful or efficient, I'm using some old cheap 460W coolermaster) and that's it.

I'm also running any new card I buy through the test rig first. Just to figure out the maximum overclocks and check the stability etc, make sure everything works. Then it goes to one of the rigs.

Different motherboards will also kind of determine the overclock potential for the GPUs.

So benching your cards in a test system will give you a good reference point, but it most likely wont be identical when you swap it to its home system.
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November 29, 2017, 11:18:05 AM
#23
*UPDATE*

Replaced the riser in question.  I've been stable in mining ETH for the last hour.  No blinking!!!  Shocked  I'll report back if anything changes.


glad you are up and running. adter all that troubleshooting im sure you feel like you can fix any issue now. glad it was something easy like a riser. I have a hand full on just in case now.

Waiting for the new year before I start building Rig #2. 6-8x RX580 8GB cards (they just keep getting cheaper)

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CryptoLearner
November 29, 2017, 03:25:29 AM
#22
*UPDATE*

Replaced the riser in question.  I've been stable in mining ETH for the last hour.  No blinking!!!  Shocked  I'll report back if anything changes.


Great, risers are often your sources of troubles, always good to have a few spare laying around  Cool
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November 28, 2017, 10:47:45 PM
#21
*UPDATE*

Replaced the riser in question.  I've been stable in mining ETH for the last hour.  No blinking!!!  Shocked  I'll report back if anything changes.
legendary
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November 28, 2017, 12:15:54 AM
#20
I think that's a very good idea to have a test rig before installing in the main one.  Would definitely point out problem hardware prior to bringing it online. 
Yep, and you can assemble that test rig for next to nothing. All you need from the platform is a PCI-e x16 slot, so it can be anything as old as intel's socket 775 or amd am2. You can run win10 even with 2gb of ram, I guess, and obviously any old hdd will work too. Can source a system like this off ebay or some local classifieds for as low as $20. Then you add a PSU (doesn't have to be very powerful or efficient, I'm using some old cheap 460W coolermaster) and that's it.

I'm also running any new card I buy through the test rig first. Just to figure out the maximum overclocks and check the stability etc, make sure everything works. Then it goes to one of the rigs.
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November 28, 2017, 12:14:08 AM
#19
I've had nothing but issues with risers with molex connections.. I switched to 6-pin and haven't had an issue. Thankfully my risers had both types of connectors.
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November 28, 2017, 12:01:40 AM
#18
Well I'm back up to 3 cards again without distortion.   Grin  I plugged in the 2 cards not functioning prior, one at a time, and found one being the problem child.  I'll replace the riser on that one tomorrow and see if that does the trick.
Do you only have one system you can test these on? If you're planning to continue mining and will be adding more cards in the future I strongly suggest to build some kind of a test rig. Doesn't have to be anything fancy, an old system with just one pci-e slot and some simple PSU will do just fine. Whenever you have some issues with your main rig(s) you just pull the parts in question and install them into that test rig to find the source of the problem. Having a spare rig like this simplifies the diagnostics greatly.

Currently yes this is my only rig besides my very simple desktop doing BOINC.  I was using my mining profits to grow my equipment so I'm at this point now since this summer.  Well I threw some extra at it but you get the point.

I think that's a very good idea to have a test rig before installing in the main one.  Would definitely point out problem hardware prior to bringing it online. 
legendary
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November 27, 2017, 11:04:29 PM
#17
Well I'm back up to 3 cards again without distortion.   Grin  I plugged in the 2 cards not functioning prior, one at a time, and found one being the problem child.  I'll replace the riser on that one tomorrow and see if that does the trick.
Do you only have one system you can test these on? If you're planning to continue mining and will be adding more cards in the future I strongly suggest to build some kind of a test rig. Doesn't have to be anything fancy, an old system with just one pci-e slot and some simple PSU will do just fine. Whenever you have some issues with your main rig(s) you just pull the parts in question and install them into that test rig to find the source of the problem. Having a spare rig like this simplifies the diagnostics greatly.
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November 27, 2017, 10:40:04 PM
#16
Well I'm back up to 3 cards again without distortion.   Grin  I plugged in the 2 cards not functioning prior, one at a time, and found one being the problem child.  I'll replace the riser on that one tomorrow and see if that does the trick.
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November 27, 2017, 10:08:52 PM
#15
It seems unlikely that both are bad, so what would you guys check next if swapping out the risers doesn't work?
I'd thoroughly check the GPUs. You said in your 1st post that "Each GPU works individually", but did you test them each with a display attached? It's just whenever there are some graphics glitches (and you said there was some blinking and color artifacts) there's always a chance that the actual GPU is the problem.

Correct, NVIDIA asked me to do exactly that.  I ran the system 1 card at a time using the HDMI outputs and they all functioned normally.  Tech support said it was very likely not to be the GPUs but I'm not going to rule it out until this is fixed.
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November 27, 2017, 05:59:25 PM
#14
because I just had this issue with my mining rig last week, my money is on a bad riser.

I used MintCell on amazon and powering with a PCIe cable from PSU and fixed all my issues.

I'm going to try turning on turning on another GPU tonight and see if the issue happens.  Then when the next 2 arrive I'll swap out what I can.

It seems unlikely that both are bad, so what would you guys check next if swapping out the risers doesn't work?

I would try that. I even had a Riser that when one card was plugged into it, it didn't read but when I have the GPU plugged into either a new or different riser it would work. I will always have a brand new set of Risers incase something messes up in the future that will be the first thing I check now.

I ended up doing a clean install of windows, and plugged each card in one at a time do the drivers could install shut down and reinstalled another card until I knew all the drivers were the same. (probably not needed because I'm 99.8% sure it was one of my Risers)

Then, when I was putting the rig back together, I powered on with 1 GPU on a riser and once I saw it working I shut it down and added the 2nd one and did that until all mine were working (6 total).

If you need any help shoot me a PM. Ill be up late tonight and understand the feeling of troubleshooting over and over. Still research what you can so you can learn, but if I can help speed anything else (learning wise/troubleshooting) I will try to help
legendary
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November 27, 2017, 05:54:03 PM
#13
It seems unlikely that both are bad, so what would you guys check next if swapping out the risers doesn't work?
I'd thoroughly check the GPUs. You said in your 1st post that "Each GPU works individually", but did you test them each with a display attached? It's just whenever there are some graphics glitches (and you said there was some blinking and color artifacts) there's always a chance that the actual GPU is the problem.
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